Revenged25 wrote:Stillwater wrote:Revenged25 wrote:
Not a bad sequence and that roster would probably compete against the Warriors, though the chances of winning would still be limited.
I still really think the Cavs should look to do a rebuild and even tell LeBron the situation, work together to help him with a opt&trade if one presented itself with good value, and look to part publicly on good terms as a joint decision. It would go a long way in improving Dan Gilberts image in the NBA/fans/media and maybe even with LeBron, it would also allow LeBron to leave without having to worry about people in Cleveland holding a grudge against him as it would be the org and him doing what is best for each of their situations.
If he leaves we cannot do a full rebuild per say for at least another season without trades like the first one fast forwarding the process.
If he is leaving, then sure you would want to get something in return for him, but the org isn't going to propose that given the chance he will return if they do whatever the can to make the roster a notch better, which is really all it would take.
If they cannot get any deals done to improve the roster at all, then you consider that.
If Lebron can take this group to the finals there is no reason we couldn't get there again and again with a few minor upgrades, and there is no reason we couldn't overcome the likes of Boston,Philly,GSW, Houston etc if we got Kawhi and an upgrade at the pg position.
My concern with many of the moves suggested by people is that it puts the Cavs into a big hole against a team like Philly who has a dominant big man in Embiid who could abuse us on offense and help limit the defense. I think that if the Cavs got Leonard and LeBron stayed, that PG might reconsider going to LA due to what would be there and might end up in Philly on a max contract which would put them into a very good spot as well. That's not to mention that Philly still has quite a few good assets and could potentially try to swing the #10 pick and other pieces to upgrade as well even if it's not PG.
I'm sure potential moves by other rosters are small concerns in the grand scheme of things , as there are way too many variables.
We have to deal with facts not projections.
These deals I was putting out there are far from likely to transpire unfortunately , but are reasonable value moves that could be on the table regardless of if Lebron stayed or not.
I think the first deal is the most likely to realistically happen given the absorbing of an injured player who will likely never be a starter again in this league unless somebody else wants the 4th bad enough to overpay even more than we would be by sending a better player than Love to Memphis.
The reason SA wouldn't trade Kawhi for example to Memphis for the 4th eliminating us from the deal, is they would want no part of Parsons, and Memphis aint moving that pick without moving Parsons.
What will happen as opposed to the best case scenarios are probably pretty far apart at the end of the day.
