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Post#561 » by toooskies » Fri Nov 5, 2021 9:57 pm

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IH's QO was under $2M, if the Cavs tried to hold him hostage with that; he could have easily gotten that much from a Euroleague team. What it likely comes down to is that the Cavs just didn't need an unhappy player at the end of their bench, so took the high road. Maybe it pays off sometime down the line, maybe not.

It's not really "holding hostage" if it was the only guaranteed money on the table (he's non-guaranteed in LA), and I'm not sure IH was upset with the Cavs given they'd just given him the most playing time he's ever had in the NBA.

I think it's much more reasonable to believe the Cavs just didn't want him and thought Kabengele was more interesting at the time, although we don't have evidence either way.


Hartenstein had guaranteed money, it's just that it was across the pond, but clearly what he valued even more than guaranteed money was playing time and exposure which he's getting in LA. At least for now.

I'm not sure how much the Cavs valued IH, probably less than fans did - but I seriously doubt they valued Kabengele more.

IH is going to be the 3rd center in LA when Ibaka comes back, though. Maybe that's better than the 2.5th center in Cleveland? Still think he's not in Cleveland because the Cavs didn't want him back.
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Re: Around the NBA 

Post#562 » by jbk1234 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:23 pm

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It is highly unlikely that the Cavs will agree with your Kevin Love evaluation for the purpose of a trade.
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Post#563 » by jbk1234 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:03 pm

I don't know whether Walton is a good or bad coach, but the decision not trade Fox for Simmons has a lot more to do with where the Kings are at than him. That's on the GM.
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Post#564 » by Harper4Ferry? » Sun Jan 2, 2022 4:56 pm

Kevin Porter Jr is just so misunderstood I guess. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Post#565 » by jbk1234 » Sun Jan 2, 2022 5:43 pm

Harper4Ferry? wrote:Kevin Porter Jr is just so misunderstood I guess. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


You never want to watch a young man self-destruct the way that he's doing. That said, the idea that the Cavs mishandled the situation and were to blame was always a real stretch. Whether it's a guy's work ethic, off-the-court conduct, interactions with coaches/teammates, or working through their confidence issues, players have a big say in terms of how it turns out. There are feel good stories about guys reaching their potential after a change of scenery, but there are a lot more stories about players being the exact same guy on a different team.
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Re: Around the NBA 

Post#566 » by JonFromVA » Mon Jan 3, 2022 4:22 pm

Harper4Ferry? wrote:Kevin Porter Jr is just so misunderstood I guess. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


A number of Stillwater's platforms haven't aged well ... but unless he's been posting on Rockets forums, some of them have also been blinded by KPJ's potential as well.

The biggest problem for Kevin isn't necessarily his anger issues, so much as his continued lack of consistent performance. Houston shouldn't have enabled him to continue to think he was on a superstar trajectory, but probably convinced themselves they had nothing to lose.
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Re: Around the NBA 

Post#567 » by jbk1234 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:37 am

Sounds like Morey tried to unload T. Harris on the Hawks during Simmons discussions and ended the discussions.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-rookie-rankings-cade-cunningham-leads-way-after-career-night-evan-mobley-playing-like-an-all-star/
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Post#568 » by Revenged25 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:57 pm

jbk1234 wrote:Sounds like Morey tried to unload T. Harris on the Hawks during Simmons discussions and ended the discussions.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-rookie-rankings-cade-cunningham-leads-way-after-career-night-evan-mobley-playing-like-an-all-star/


LoL. I got a trade for them though:

Lakers send: Russ/Nunn/THT
Lakers get: Simmons/Harris

76ers send: Simmons/Harris
76ers get: Russ/Nunn/THT
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Re: Around the NBA 

Post#569 » by jbk1234 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:43 pm

lol, this is priceless
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Re: Around the NBA 

Post#570 » by JonFromVA » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:33 pm

Do you think Lauri broke the top-40 after last night's performance? :lol:

I think I'd be willing to trade Lauri + Ricky's contract for Ben, but I'm going back & forth on it ... 8-)
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Re: Around the NBA 

Post#571 » by KuruptedCav » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:57 pm

JonFromVA wrote:Do you think Lauri broke the top-40 after last night's performance? :lol:

I think I'd be willing to trade Lauri + Ricky's contract for Ben, but I'm going back & forth on it ... 8-)

I’ll go Rubio, Markkanen, Sexton, Windler, 2022 FRP, 2024 FRP

for

Simmons and Curry


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Re: Around the NBA 

Post#572 » by gflem » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:08 am

KuruptedCav wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:Do you think Lauri broke the top-40 after last night's performance? :lol:

I think I'd be willing to trade Lauri + Ricky's contract for Ben, but I'm going back & forth on it ... 8-)

I’ll go Rubio, Markkanen, Sexton, Windler, 2022 FRP, 2024 FRP

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Simmons and Curry


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Not me. I am not on the Simmons train at all. Rubio, Sexton, and Windler are expendable in the right deal but overpaying for a guy that has all that baggage Simmons has regardless of talent is a huge risk.
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Re: Around the NBA 

Post#573 » by toooskies » Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:23 pm

I assume Curry is off the table both because he's a valuable, low-cost piece for them; and because he married the coach's daughter.

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