Nets pick watch

[VIPER8382]

The Nets have 26 games left and 10 wins would be pretty solid for them based on the season so far, that would mean that the Knicks would have to go 6-21 in 27 games just to tie. Or do you still have the Nets hitting 34 wins? Oh, and none of the 7 other teams right with Brooklyn can pass them.

[Stillwater]

Nets will finish 6th or worst bet on it they just aren't that good

[Stillwater]

Current lottery standings
W L PCT GB HOME ROAD DIV CONF PPG OPP PPG DIFF STRK L10
Philadelphia 76ers 26 25 .510 13.5 14-10 12-15 3-7 14-13 107.6 106.5 +1.2 W1 5-5
Detroit Pistons 27 26 .509 13.5 18-10 9-16 5-6 16-18 103.3 103.0 +0.4 W5 5-5
Utah Jazz 26 28 .481 15 15-9 11-19 4-7 16-14 103.2 102.1 +1.1 W7 8-2
Charlotte Hornets 23 30 .434 17.5 15-14 8-16 7-4 12-17 106.4 106.4 +0.0 L1 5-5
New York Knicks 23 32 .418 18.5 16-11 7-21 6-4 11-20 103.8 105.5 -1.6 L4 3-7
Los Angeles Lakers 22 31 .415 18.5 13-14 9-17 4-8 10-21 106.7 109.7 -2.9 W3 7-3
Chicago Bulls 18 35 .340 22.5 11-14 7-21 4-7 16-15 103.5 109.2 -5.8 L7 2-8
Brooklyn Nets 19 37 .339 23 11-18 8-19 1-9 12-21 105.1 109.1 -4.0 L4 2-8
Memphis Grizzlies 18 36 .333 23 13-16 5-20 5-8 15-20 99.0 102.4 -3.4 L5 2-8
Phoenix Suns 18 38 .321 24 9-20 9-18 3-6 12-22 104.2 112.5 -8.2 L4 1-9
Sacramento Kings 17 36 .321 23.5 8-16 9-20 3-8 9-22 98.4 106.5 -8.1 W1 4-6
Orlando Magic 17 36 .321 23.5 10-14 7-22 3-8 10-22 105.8 110.2 -4.3 W2 5-5
Atlanta Hawks 17 37 .315 24 12-16 5-21 3-7 7-26 103.8 107.8 -4.0 W2 4-6
Dallas Mavericks 17 37 .315 24 10-18 7-19 4-7 9-25 101.5 103.6 -2.1 L1 2-8

[VIPER8382]

Nets may win tonight as the Pelicans are on the 2nd night of a back to back and the Nets are well rested. Looking at their schedule though it may be their only projected win in February

[tundraknight]

Nets may win tonight as the Pelicans are on the 2nd night of a back to back and the Nets are well rested. Looking at their schedule though it may be their only projected win in February

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

The Pelicans have been awful since Cousins went down with the Devastating injury.

And as you mentioned 2nd night of a back to back for them.

Unfortunately for us Cavaliers fans this might be a Nets win tonight.

Hopefully I’m wrong though.

[tundraknight]

This game is going to give me a heart attack.

[tundraknight]

Nets Lose!!!

Nets Lose in Double Overtime versus the Pelicans!!

YES!!!!

CELLLEBRATE Good Times COME ON!!!!!

[Stillwater]

They just are not that good still.

[VIPER8382]

The only other game this month that the Nets have a reasonable chance to win is at home against Chicago. Of course they can sneak up on somebody, just hope the Cavs take care of business this time. As tight as the race for last is in the East that single game where the Cavs let the Nets beat them could cost them a couple slots in the draft. Can't change the past, but can't let it happen again either.

[Stillwater]

ORL who is only 1 win behind but 1 loss ahead of the Nets,ATL currently 2nd is 1 win and 1 loss behind the Nets & SAC 2 wins behind and the same amt of losses sitting at 1 ...all 3 have being playing at or just below 500 in the past 10 games with MEM 2-8,PHO 1-9, DAL 2-8 the 3 remaining teams sitting just behind the Nets who have been 1-9 in their last 10 games and will likely continue to skid.
PHO should improve some with Payton, MEM is probably tanking it will be interesting to see if Evans is bought out(doubtful) but if he is they will be even worse with Conley out the rest of the season, also of note is CHI will be getting Dunn back soon and should stop the 2-8 skid they have been on since his departure as they are only 2 losses ahead of the Nets at 8th.
NY has been bad lately as well @ 2-8 at 4 wins better and 4 losses better than the Nets & with KP out could skid further.

[VIPER8382]

Nets are now only one game out of last and in a crowd. The pick really could end up anywhere 1 to 7, but doubtful it goes lower than 7.

[Stillwater]

Nets are now only one game out of last and in a crowd. The pick really could end up anywhere 1 to 7, but doubtful it goes lower than 7.

There's really no sure fire way to guess , so I'll just go with fact of them being so bad that even if some of these teams hanging it up on their veterans those said teams are still potentially better than Brooklyn even after tanking by changing line ups with the Nets continuing on the same path. ATL is the easiest team to tank because they have sucked even playing vets. Others not so much.
Every team that they play down the stretch that is fighting for playoff positioning will shut them down.
I would bet 3-5 is the highest probability with 6th being the worst

[baldur]

Nets are having the worst Stretch of the season yet don't go worse below the 7th seed. The other teams play like they are not gonna win any game except when they play each other and still 25 games to go. This is disgusting

[yoyoboy]

I just really hope it doesn't fall past 7. I want it to be top 5, but if it's 8 or 9 that would be a disaster because we'd probably miss one of the 7 potential franchise changers. I realize you can get lucky later in the draft and it's a crapshoot and what not, but the quality really seems to take a dip after Donic, Ayton, Young, JJJ, Porter, Bamba, and Bagley. And I'm not even high on Bagley so I hope a team takes him early. Ending up with Sexton or Knox would be so disappointing.

Chicago is right on our tail and they play Brooklyn three more times this season, two of which are in Brooklyn. I have a really tough time believing their management isn't going to make sure they do everything they can to lose those games, sitting out LaVine, Lopez, Dunn, etc. Brooklyn has no reason to sit anyone. Furthermore New York looks pathetic. At least we have a 4 game lead on them, but I have a feeling they're going to win 3 more games the entire season, and asking the Nets to go 7-16 or worse the rest of the way seems a little much, considering they still play Charlotte three times, Chicago three times, Sacramento, Dallas, Memphis, Orlando, and finally Boston the last day of the season, and you know petty Ainge will sit all their guys. Among those games, I have a hard time believing they won't win at least 6/11. And then you throw in about 3nwins out of the other 12 games and it looks like the Nets should win about 28 games.

So I'd venture it ends up 9 with the lottery standings being 1. Atlanta, 2. Phoenix, 3. Sacramento, 4. Dallas, 5. Memphis, 6. Orlando, 7. Chicago, 8. New York, 9. Brooklyn, 10. Los Angeles

[Stillwater]

I just really hope it doesn't fall past 7. I want it to be top 5, but if it's 8 or 9 that would be a disaster because we'd probably miss one of the 7 potential franchise changers. I realize you can get lucky later in the draft and it's a crapshoot and what not, but the quality really seems to take a dip after Donic, Ayton, Young, JJJ, Porter, Bamba, and Bagley. And I'm not even high on Bagley so I hope a team takes him early. Ending up with Sexton or Knox would be so disappointing.

Chicago is right on our tail and they play Brooklyn three more times this season, two of which are in Brooklyn. I have a really tough time believing their management isn't going to make sure they do everything they can to lose those games, sitting out LaVine, Lopez, Dunn, etc. Brooklyn has no reason to sit anyone. Furthermore New York looks pathetic. At least we have a 4 game lead on them, but I have a feeling they're going to win 3 more games the entire season, and asking the Nets to go 7-16 or worse the rest of the way seems a little much, considering they still play Charlotte three times, Chicago three times, Sacramento, Dallas, Memphis, Orlando, and finally Boston the last day of the season, and you know petty Ainge will sit all their guys. Among those games, I have a hard time believing they won't win at least 6/11. And then you throw in about 3nwins out of the other 12 games and it looks like the Nets should win about 28 games.

So I'd venture it ends up 9 with the lottery standings being 1. Atlanta, 2. Phoenix, 3. Sacramento, 4. Dallas, 5. Memphis, 6. Orlando, 7. Chicago, 8. New York, 9. Brooklyn, 10. Los Angeles

As far as who would be available , I'm not concerned as our scouting clearly knows what they are doing when 30 picks we're passed before we took Osman.
Always ignore the highlights going into a draft.. to find the gems you have to dig.If it falls in the projected range ,outside of Ayton and Doncic I doubt any players that we draft will be Cavs any longer than Wiggins was anyway.
I would take Bridges MSU if it fell to 9 if we did keep the player or gamble on Mitchell Robinson ,Anfernee Simons etc as a key peice going forward into the next gen.
I do not believe the bad teams becoming all out tanking teams are as likely as you presume. Maybe ATL and MEM but not the other bottom dwellers who are filled with young players trying to retain or attain value in the league who would not tank on their own.
Example; Sac sitting or moving on from vets to play their young core is not tanking in the same way as resting key starters against other bad teams.

[VIPER8382]

I just really hope it doesn't fall past 7. I want it to be top 5, but if it's 8 or 9 that would be a disaster because we'd probably miss one of the 7 potential franchise changers. I realize you can get lucky later in the draft and it's a crapshoot and what not, but the quality really seems to take a dip after Donic, Ayton, Young, JJJ, Porter, Bamba, and Bagley. And I'm not even high on Bagley so I hope a team takes him early. Ending up with Sexton or Knox would be so disappointing.

Chicago is right on our tail and they play Brooklyn three more times this season, two of which are in Brooklyn. I have a really tough time believing their management isn't going to make sure they do everything they can to lose those games, sitting out LaVine, Lopez, Dunn, etc. Brooklyn has no reason to sit anyone. Furthermore New York looks pathetic. At least we have a 4 game lead on them, but I have a feeling they're going to win 3 more games the entire season, and asking the Nets to go 7-16 or worse the rest of the way seems a little much, considering they still play Charlotte three times, Chicago three times, Sacramento, Dallas, Memphis, Orlando, and finally Boston the last day of the season, and you know petty Ainge will sit all their guys. Among those games, I have a hard time believing they won't win at least 6/11. And then you throw in about 3nwins out of the other 12 games and it looks like the Nets should win about 28 games.

So I'd venture it ends up 9 with the lottery standings being 1. Atlanta, 2. Phoenix, 3. Sacramento, 4. Dallas, 5. Memphis, 6. Orlando, 7. Chicago, 8. New York, 9. Brooklyn, 10. Los Angeles

I just don't see how the Nets are going to all of a sudden play nearly .500 ball. They are essentially a tanking roster, but not on purpose, simply from team altering horrible trades. If other teams tank that basically is only going to even the playing field. The Nets overachieved early in the season, but reality quickly caught up with them. This is a unique season though, as there is very little that any of these teams can do to tank.

Keep in mind that players simply never tank, tanking typically involves sitting veterans that aren't in the long term plans to play young players which in turn leads to more losses. The thing is very few of these 8 teams that are "competing" for the first pick with Brooklyn (who of course has no reason to try) have those types of players. Who are all of these positive value vets that these teams are going to sit? The Bulls aren't going to sit Dunn who they are trying to find out if he is their PG moving forward, or Lavine who they have to decide whether or not to retain. Maybe Lopez, but that doesn't appear to make them worse than the Nets all of a sudden. I don't see the Kings sitting Z Bo as something that makes them noticeably worse. I think Gasol would throw a fit if the team tries to sit him for any long period. I just don't see how these teams are going to drop off to the point that the Nets all of a sudden jump everybody in that group and lose ground on nobody.

[VIPER8382]

The Nets went 11-15 in their first 26 games, then 8-18 in their next 26, and since then are 0-7 to start the next 26. They do have a favorable stretch coming with 10 of 23 against nearly certain lotto teams, but at the same time it is the time of year where playoff teams start fighting hard for seeding and are less likely to overlook and lose to the Nets. They aren't noticeably better than any of the other projected lotto teams, so .500 against the other lotto teams would be about the best to be expected especially since 6 of the 10 are still against teams with a better record this year, including 3 against Charlotte who has little chance of moving to the top and likely will still be trying to win). Where are a lot of other wins coming from? Let's see the rest of the schedule. They play the Cavs twice (I will be utterly shocked if the Cavs let that pick get worse from beating them again), Philadelphia 3 times (fighting for a playoff spot and seeding), Toronto twice (trying to get the tops seed), also once against Golden State (before rest risk time), and once each against the Clippers, Miami, Detroit, and Milwaukee (fighting for seeding and the playoffs). Finally their last game is at Boston, who may be still needing a win for the one seed, and really can't sit enough players to put a roster less talented than Brooklyn on the court. Also of note is that 14 of their remaining games are on the road and only 9 are home games. I just don't see them pulling off this crazy finish that robs the Cavs of a top pick.

[Stillwater]

They still stink 4-6 most likely outcome 1-3 still very possible 7-9 only if 3 teams move into the top 3 that were not in the top 3 via the lottery drawing pushing the pick a few spots.
ESPN currently has the Cavs now picking Jackson at 4th whereas they had the Cavs picking later than that most of the season.
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=22519425&t=00m00s

[JJ_PR]

NBAdraft.net has us taking Trae freaking Young with the 7th pick. I'd be totally happy if he fell to us! Mohammed Bamba is slotted one pick further, and he's supposedly the next Rudy Gobert. We'll have a good problem in our hands come draft night if those two are available.

[Stillwater]

NBAdraft.net has us taking Trae freaking Young with the 7th pick. I'd be totally happy if he fell to us! Mohammed Bamba is slotted one pick further, and he's supposedly the next Rudy Gobert. We'll have a good problem in our hands come draft night if those two are available.

They also have Doncic dropping to 5 as the user consensus popularity vote is beginning to impact his stock among those not watching the intl options.
Doncic and Ayton are still the only choices for the top 2 with a small chance somebody takes Jackson at 2 if Ayton goes 1 with Doncic a steal at 3. after that it's wide open on the projections until the lottery order is set.
If I had the #1 I would have to take Doncic if I was Altman even though Ayton and Jackson and Young all have similar superstar potential.