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Game 21: Miami Heat (10-9) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (13-7) - 7:00 PM ET

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Re: Game 21: Miami Heat (10-9) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (13-7) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#2 » by jbk1234 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:46 pm

Dion Waiters coming to Cleveland like:

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Post#4 » by jbk1234 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:42 am

Frye is playing pretty poorly tonight.
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Post#5 » by jbk1234 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:07 am

K. Love with 32 at the half.
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Post#6 » by LEO MESSI » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:09 am

What a first half. Love was on fire.
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Post#7 » by Dupp » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:58 am

jbk1234 wrote:K. Love with 32 at the half.



Imagine if first quarter love was full game love. It’s so bizarre.
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jbk1234 wrote:K. Love with 32 at the half.



Imagine if first quarter love was full game love. It’s so bizarre.


It's not. First off, he's a big man so if you don't pass it to him, he doesn't have the ball. If you don't make an effort to get it to him in the right spot in a timely manner, it's harder for him to get a good shot. It's not like this is some new phenomenon with big men either. He only got six shot attempts against the Hornets on Saturday while Korver, JR, & Crowder each took more than 10 jumpers.

Second, he's been playing out of position. Against certain line ups, it doesn't matter. Against other line ups, he's giving up almost four inches and 50 lbs against true centers. He's also playing next to an undersized PF in Crowder and a SF who only sometimes rotates & boxes out. There's a reason LBJ isn't trying to defend and box out true centers even though he's physically better suited for it. It takes a lot of energy.

Finally, Love's a confidence player. Now you can criticize him for that if you want but not every player in the NBA is an alpha. I'd rather have a guy like Love who plays really well when you make an effort to get him involved, and who can rebound even when you don't, than a guy like Melo who is going ISO chuck regardless of how he's shooting and gives you nothing else.
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Re: Game 21: Miami Heat (10-9) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (13-7) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#9 » by Dupp » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:47 pm

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jbk1234 wrote:K. Love with 32 at the half.



Imagine if first quarter love was full game love. It’s so bizarre.


It's not. First off, he's a big man so if you don't pass it to him, he doesn't have the ball. If you don't make an effort to get it to him in the right spot in a timely manner, it's harder for him to get a good shot. It's not like this is some new phenomenon with big men either. He only got six shot attempts against the Hornets on Saturday while Korver, JR, & Crowder each took more than 10 jumpers.

Second, he's been playing out of position. Against certain line ups, it doesn't matter. Against other line ups, he's giving up almost four inches and 50 lbs against true centers. He's also playing next to an undersized PF in Crowder and a SF who only sometimes rotates & boxes out. There's a reason LBJ isn't trying to defend and box out true centers even though he's physically better suited for it. It takes a lot of energy.

Finally, Love's a confidence player. Now you can criticize him for that if you want but not every player in the NBA is an alpha. I'd rather have a guy like Love who plays really well when you make an effort to get him involved, and who can rebound even when you don't, than a guy like Melo who is going ISO chuck regardless of how he's shooting and gives you nothing else.



This has nothing to do with melo or love being out of position. Loves been goat like in first quarters his whole duration with the cavs.
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Re: Game 21: Miami Heat (10-9) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (13-7) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#10 » by Stillwater » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:48 pm

This game shows again just how impactful KLove can be when we utilize him in a first option role.
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Post#11 » by bb22 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:10 pm

Stillwater wrote:This game shows again just how impactful KLove can be when we utilize him in a first option role.


He can be very impactful, but not 32 pts at half impactful... He was feeling it and they were feeding him. Pretty simple.
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Re: Game 21: Miami Heat (10-9) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (13-7) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#12 » by Trailbreaker » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:11 pm

Stillwater wrote:This game shows again just how impactful KLove can be when we utilize him in a first option role.

Yeah, I never understand why some people think the Cavs would even want to ship him out for pennies on the dollar. I’d prefer Cleveland hang onto him for as long as possible.
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