Game 41: Cleveland Cavaliers (26-14) @ Toronto Raptors (28-11) - 8:00 PM ET

Post #2 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:05 am

We're getting to the point where LBJ has to play the four, and really play it, or TT has to start in these match ups.

Post #3 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:20 am

It's still early in the process but I'm seeing nothing that allays my concerns re: IT.

Post #4 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:30 am

After finally making a good adjustment, Lue managed to put together a line up with no shooters in it. Given the Cavs roster that's pretty impressive.

Post #5 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:38 am

J. Green just walked down the court on offense. We played 4 on 5 for like 10 seconds. This team is too old to play at the pace Lue wants to play at.

Stillwater · Post #6 » by **Stillwater** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:59 am

IT looks really rusty tonight.
Crowder needs to be on the bench until he gets his **** together.
We're getting killed after 2 days rest.
TT has been the only bright spot in this game.
WTF isn't Swish shooting it more?

Stillwater · Post #7 » by **Stillwater** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:18 am

Lot of yelling between LBJ and Posey before half.
Coaching changes coming?

Stillwater · Post #8 » by **Stillwater** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:56 am

We are not beating Raps in a 7 game series without changes to the roster or at minimum better line ups, Granted Smith, Crowder,&IT ain't shooting for **** right now.

Truthful1 · Post #9 » by **Truthful1** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:58 am

Lue is a joke. Brad Stevens gets the best out of his players. Crowder has sucked for the Cavs. The last two games Thomas is going down that road as well. Lue is the problem.

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Stillwater · Post #10 » by **Stillwater** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:04 am

Getting destroyed on the glass destroyed in transition can't defend a stop sign.
If this team as constructed figures it out after this embarrassing performance without better scoring from IT, Crowder and Smith shooting better than maybe we won't need a major trade,but it's not looking good.

Post #11 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:09 am

Truthful1 wrote:Lue is a joke. Brad Stevens gets the best out of his players. Crowder has sucked for the Cavs. The last two games Thomas is going down that road as well. Lue is the problem.

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Lue's part of the problem but anyone who thinks that switching coaches is going to fix what's wrong is kidding themselves. We have many, many problems. Our immediate problem is that Jose Calderon is our best PG.

Post #12 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:13 am

Why isn't Zizic in this game.

Stillwater · Post #13 » by **Stillwater** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:26 am

It won't happen,but I would put IT3 in Canton until he gets his legs. put Jose back in the sl and move Crowder and JR to the bench replace them with Osman and Thompson .Lue will just continue to struggle with that line up he's been using probably though until the shots start falling.
Problem is that line up hasn't been good without Jose.

Post #14 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:15 am

Stillwater wrote:Lot of yelling between LBJ and Posey before half.
Coaching changes coming?

LBJ had it coming. There's a difference between conserving energy and just not playing defense. Frankly, it almost seems like LBJ is tanking at times to try and force a trade.

Dupp · Post #15 » by **Dupp** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:46 am

jbk1234 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Lot of yelling between LBJ and Posey before half.
Coaching changes coming?

LBJ had it coming. There's a difference between conserving energy and just not playing defense. Frankly, it almost seems like LBJ is tanking at times to try and force a trade.

It’s that time of year for Lebron!

Surprised he’s throwing away a gimme mvp though

Post #16 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:53 am

Dupp wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Lot of yelling between LBJ and Posey before half.
Coaching changes coming?

LBJ had it coming. There's a difference between conserving energy and just not playing defense. Frankly, it almost seems like LBJ is tanking at times to try and force a trade.

It’s that time of year for Lebron!

Surprised he’s throwing away a gimme mvp though

I think he's trying to force a trade of either IT or Love. Our defense is really bad with those two on the floor together but he's embellishing for effect.

Stillwater · Post #17 » by **Stillwater** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:54 am

jbk1234 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Lot of yelling between LBJ and Posey before half.
Coaching changes coming?

LBJ had it coming. There's a difference between conserving energy and just not playing defense. Frankly, it almost seems like LBJ is tanking at times to try and force a trade.

I wouldn't be surprised to see how he was ignoring a wide open IT along with everyone else after the game was out of control. Don't blame him considering IT is not ready.

Dupp · Post #18 » by **Dupp** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:58 am

It’s also entirely too early to judge IT

Post #19 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:04 am

Dupp wrote:It’s also entirely too early to judge IT

I have the same opinion the day the trade was made, regardless of how well he ends up playing offensively, the way the Cavs are constructed, they can't absorb his defensive deficiencies. It's too much.

Dupp · Post #20 » by **Dupp** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:09 am

jbk1234 wrote:
Dupp wrote:It’s also entirely too early to judge IT

I have the same opinion the day the trade was made, regardless of how well he ends up playing offensively, the way the Cavs are constructed, they can't absorb his defensive deficiencies. It's too much.

Yeah I know it was more a general statement.

We have holes everywhere defensively so I’d prefer a defensive wing or centre before we fix the point guard spot