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Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:56 am
by iggymcfrack
So I'm not actually a Cavs fun, but in terms of coaching/lineup setting, I think they've been the most fascinating team in the association all year, and that's only ramped up after the trade. Who should be starting alongside LeBron right now before K-Love comes back?
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:00 pm
by kiwibrindle
I only picked three because I refuse to ever vote for TT Kardashian being on the floor let alone paying him over 8 mill a year. Worst Contract ever!
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:53 pm
by Stillwater
Just about any players on the roster will be just fine playing with the KIng.
But, line ups will be governed a lot by who is on the floor without him.
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:38 pm
by Freighttrain
I personally like Hill-Hood-LeBron-Love-Nance but JR has been great these last 4-5 games so I don't really mind him starting over hood. Perhaps he needed the comfort of knowing he wasn't going to be traded or the locker room debacle affected him aswell, being the pressure of Dwade at that same position making him uncomfortable but that's just guessing. If Nance keeps playing like this I can't imagine Lue not starting him over TT.. But he's known for 'sticking' with his line-up when he should of made adjustments way earlier so we'll see.
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:21 pm
by cavs4872
I think the more interesting question is what the lineup should be when Love comes back, because Korver (one of our most effective players on the floor) only managed to get eight minutes with him out, but since that wasn't actually your question, right now I'm going Hill, Hood, Nance and TT.
Even though JR has been lit lately, I would be a fan of he and Osman just falling out of the rotation completely when Love comes back in order to give more burn to Korver.
I'm not sure that I believe the Osman hype, and that he isn't just the next Delly (a player who gets big money just because LeBron made him good); so he's a product of LeBron, and there have been countless products of LeBron who have been unable to even remain in the league without playing alongside him (JJ Hickson, Varejao, Daniel Gibson, Sasha Pavlovic, etc.) and Osman just gives me that vibe.
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:53 am
by Stillwater
cavs4872 wrote:I think the more interesting question is what the lineup should be when Love comes back, because Korver (one of our most effective players on the floor) only managed to get eight minutes with him out, but since that wasn't actually your question, right now I'm going Hill, Hood, Nance and TT.
Even though JR has been lit lately, I would be a fan of he and Osman just falling out of the rotation completely when Love comes back in order to give more burn to Korver.
I'm not sure that I believe the Osman hype, and that he isn't just the next Delly (a player who gets big money just because LeBron made him good); so he's a product of LeBron, and there have been countless products of LeBron who have been unable to even remain in the league without playing alongside him (JJ Hickson, Varejao, Daniel Gibson, Sasha Pavlovic, etc.) and Osman just gives me that vibe.
Osman is an NBA rookie but he plays like veteran and doesn't need LEBRON on the floor to be effective. His hustle intensity defensive iq and ability to pass and attack the basket are extremely underated and I do not agree he is a Varejao or Delly type byproduct
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:56 pm
by Mamba4Goat
I think the best lineup without Love is Clarkson-Hill-Cedi-Bron-TT, then once Love gets back you have to bench either Cedi, Clarkson, or Hill and slide Bron back down to the three while putting Love back at the 4. An interesting thing will be Nance and TT competing for the bigger role. (I may just love Nance more than everyone else though)
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:08 pm
by Dupp
Mamba4Goat wrote:I think the best lineup without Love is Clarkson-Hill-Cedi-Bron-TT, then once Love gets back you have to bench either Cedi, Clarkson, or Hill and slide Bron back down to the three while putting Love back at the 4. An interesting thing will be Nance and TT competing for the bigger role. (I may just love Nance more than everyone else though)
Thompson doesn’t even deserve to be in the rotation. Nance is already way better.
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:00 am
by cheese318
Thompson does deserve to start. He has actually been playing his best basketball of the year over the course of the last two weeks or so. I like what he brings on the court. Only issue that may occur is when Kevin Love returns. I like the depth regardless but the best lineup will be with Love at the Center position having TT off the bench. That would create a logjam with Nance on the bench too. Tristan brings energy to the starting lineup so I’m okay with him starting but should only be seeing the court for about 20-25 minutes a game
Dupp wrote:Mamba4Goat wrote:I think the best lineup without Love is Clarkson-Hill-Cedi-Bron-TT, then once Love gets back you have to bench either Cedi, Clarkson, or Hill and slide Bron back down to the three while putting Love back at the 4. An interesting thing will be Nance and TT competing for the bigger role. (I may just love Nance more than everyone else though)
Thompson doesn’t even deserve to be in the rotation. Nance is already way better.
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:27 am
by Dupp
cheese318 wrote:Thompson does deserve to start. He has actually been playing his best basketball of the year over the course of the last two weeks or so. I like what he brings on the court. Only issue that may occur is when Kevin Love returns. I like the depth regardless but the best lineup will be with Love at the Center position having TT off the bench. That would create a logjam with Nance on the bench too. Tristan brings energy to the starting lineup so I’m okay with him starting but should only be seeing the court for about 20-25 minutes a game
Dupp wrote:Mamba4Goat wrote:I think the best lineup without Love is Clarkson-Hill-Cedi-Bron-TT, then once Love gets back you have to bench either Cedi, Clarkson, or Hill and slide Bron back down to the three while putting Love back at the 4. An interesting thing will be Nance and TT competing for the bigger role. (I may just love Nance more than everyone else though)
TT doesn’t bring energy though.
Steven Adams embarrassed him the other day. Everyone else on the team was good and he was a huge negative as always
Thompson doesn’t even deserve to be in the rotation. Nance is already way better.
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:34 am
by Mamba4Goat
Dupp wrote:cheese318 wrote:Thompson does deserve to start. He has actually been playing his best basketball of the year over the course of the last two weeks or so. I like what he brings on the court. Only issue that may occur is when Kevin Love returns. I like the depth regardless but the best lineup will be with Love at the Center position having TT off the bench. That would create a logjam with Nance on the bench too. Tristan brings energy to the starting lineup so I’m okay with him starting but should only be seeing the court for about 20-25 minutes a game
Dupp wrote:
TT doesn’t bring energy though.
Steven Adams embarrassed him the other day. Everyone else on the team was good and he was a huge negative as always
Thompson doesn’t even deserve to be in the rotation. Nance is already way better.
Your quote messed with me at first.
Now that I've actually put a little more thought into it, TT may fall victim to Loves return simply because Nance can play PF more comfortably and Love center.
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:11 am
by The Warrior
Speaking of Kevin Love, when is he due back? I think his skill set will compliment the new players very nicely and vice versa.
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Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:13 pm
by Stillwater
The Warrior wrote:Speaking of Kevin Love, when is he due back? I think his skill set will compliment the new players very nicely and vice versa.
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Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:18 pm
by Stillwater
Nance can be utilized better on the second unit at the 5 , I doubt he gets much time as a starter unless it's at the 4 with Love at the 5 but that also seems less likely then TT at the 5 and Love at the 4.
I would not be surprised if Love is on the 2nd unit at the 4 when he first comes back with Nance at the 5 if Lebron continues playing the 4 in the sl etc.
Love is going to have a difficult time trying to mesh coming back right before the post season.
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:44 am
by Ainosterhaspie
I like what they're doing right now. Not saying g the starters should get the most minutes, but TT/LBJ/Osman/JR/Hill is good to start.
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:11 pm
by cavs4872
I feel like you will totally lose JR if you don't start him.
With 49 votes, Lue's lineup actually won out.
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:13 am
by Stillwater
cavs4872 wrote:I feel like you will totally lose JR if you don't start him.
With 49 votes, Lue's lineup actually won out.
Shouldn't be an issue now that he believes the Cavs are a contender again. Swish has had a rough season but many of the problems were born of issues that are gone. He doesn't have to cover for Hill or any other pairing anymore so his offense should not suffer any longer.
He won't move back to bench unless he struggles offensively a lot ,and that would mean we wouldn't want him STARTING anyway
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:45 pm
by Dupp
Why’s nance playing only 16 mins smh
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:54 pm
by Stillwater
^ Yeah it's early in the learning curve process. Cedi shot wasn't falling so I get it that Lue went with others to see if that helped in the 2nd half(it didn't) so I would have liked to see Cedi's energy for 40 minutes. Nance's energy is also greater than TT and would not surprise me if he outplays TT enough to take more of his minutes
Re: Who should be starting alongside LeBron
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:42 am
by Dupp
Wow nance got more minutes and guess what happens