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I was watching some Kyrie highlights from 2015 and remembered what kind of team they had managed to put together at the trade dealine, a spry and streaky JR Smith, super motivated and athletic shumpert, really energetic Mozgov (who had some issues catching the ball but was great in his role apart from that). Then the same tries to acquire Paul George and Bledsoe in a trade that doesnt work out, gets fired, the IT trade flops, but interesting moves get made at the deadline AND there's still that brooklyn.

Do you think it was a good / bad move? Or is it too early to tell? Some say it was lebron calling shots, but I don't see that same quality post-griffin

Pretty sure Griffin walked seeing no solution after Irving's threats of sitting out and getting surgery unless he was moved. Griffin came out of it clean
But his efforts to include Irving in PG trade talks was the beginning of the end for both him and Irving in CLE.
Don't have any interest in could of should of talk. Both are gone , it was fun while it lasted but like everything in life nothing lasts.

You say the IT trade flopped but also pointed out we still have the Brooklyn pick; which is it?

IT flopped, but the fate of their entire package is TBD.

Griffin is a really good gm and very smart guy. We’d be much better with him.

I don't think he was fired. Gilbert simply let him walk rather than give him a new contract which would be more along the lines of what he deserved at that point and hired Altman on the cheap. Having said that, I think most any Cavs fan wishes Griffin was still the gm.

It was stupid then and it’s stupid now. He’s a really good and intelligent gm.


Even worse was leaving it right until the trade period began. Just insane incompetence by the cavs.

Dupp wrote:It was stupid then and it’s stupid now. He’s a really good and intelligent gm.


Even worse was leaving it right until the trade period began. Just insane incompetence by the cavs.

The problem begins and ends with Gilbert. I think so many of true issues in this organization would be solved if we had a competent owner. Him being willing to spend means very little to me. Other owners spend, too, and if anything him throwing around money like that led to us being weighed down by long, expensive contracts like Tristan, Shumpert, and JR, which killed our flexibility and made roster improvement impossible.

I agree. Gilbert is the main reason and his ego definitely decided that David Griffin was getting to much of the hoopla for 2016 not Dan Gilbert. I just think Griffin would have handled the Kyrie trade request a lot better. Gilbert got enamored with the possible top five pick from the Celtics and wanted a security blanket when LBJ bolted. I just don’t see how you can sell the trade for the benefit for LBJ this season. If he wanted to sell LeBron on a trade with a possible future he should have really tried getting Josh Jackson/Eric Bledsoe. I just think they definitely could have gotten a better player for LBJ that would be helping him this year

yoyoboy wrote:

Dupp wrote:It was stupid then and it’s stupid now. He’s a really good and intelligent gm.


Even worse was leaving it right until the trade period began. Just insane incompetence by the cavs.

The problem begins and ends with Gilbert. I think so many of true issues in this organization would be solved if we had a competent owner. Him being willing to spend means very little to me. Other owners spend, too, and if anything him throwing around money like that led to us being weighed down by long, expensive contracts like Tristan, Shumpert, and JR, which killed our flexibility and made roster improvement impossible.