2018 OFFSEASON REBUILD

[dswi25]

It's time to right the ship in The Land. Bad contracts and players underperforming are driving me insane. The following trades may not be perfect or even probable, but they have some potential. The Cavs have been linked to McCollum, Kawhi and Kemba recently. Each player has one reason or another why they may be on the trade block this offseason. Let's review how we can acquire not just one of them but all of them in a massive rebuild. Gilbert and Altman need to convince LeBron to stay and here's how:

-Trade Love, TT, Korver, Hill and Clarkson
-Give Hood the qualifying offer (should be in the 3 mil range) and do not match any higher offer. I'd let him walk on any other deal but the qualifying offer.
-Buy-out JR or Batum (see below trade where we acquire Batum). Batum is slated to make 24 mil next season...and you thought JR was overpaid
-Bring back Green and Calderon on team-friendly deals
-Find a few vets who are ring-chasing and willing to play on league minimum deals and reduced roles (maybe bring back RJ and Frye)
-The roster rounds out w/ two 2-way G-League players

And the trades...

Trade#1
CLE get McCollum and the 2nd overall pick via SAC
SAC gets TT, Korver and the 8th overall pick via CLE
POR gets Bogdanovic, Hield, Koufos and a 2021 1st rd pick via SAC
*Not sure why SAC would give this all up but it was in an article I recently read. Does POR give up on the dynamic backcourt of Lillard and McCollum and start rebuilding?

Trade #2
CLE gets Kawhi
SA gets Hill and the 2nd overall pick
*I honestly think the 2nd overall pick could sway SA if Kawhi truly wants out. Hill fits their system perfectly as well.

Trade #3
CLE gets Kemba and Batum
CHO gets Love and Clarkson
*CHO is dying to shed some bad contracts (Batum) and they're in NBA purgatory being in the middle of the standings every season. Not good enough to make a run in the playoffs and not bad enough to get a high enough draft pick to improve their team.

Dream scenario, right? Future picks via CLE may need to be added to sway the other teams but I'd risk the future for this haul. Lebron supposedly wants a lighter load and w/ these moves he can play off the ball and sit as many games/minutes as he wants. Even if LeBron leaves, why not pursue these players? We all know LeBron is arguably the greatest of all-time but a 3-headed monster of Kemba/McCollum/Kawhi w/ the right supporting cast is worthy of being a championship contender in my opinion. If Lebron does indeed leave, that frees up space to go after someone noteworthy or a couple solid players as well.

Potential Roster:
Starters- Kemba/McCollum/Kawhi/Lebron/Nance
Bench- Green/JR or Batum/Cedi/Zizic/Calderon/3 vets on minimum/two 2-way G-Leaguers

[Trailbreaker]

That would be interesting, Hill and Leonard would get swapped for each other for a second time around.

[Stillwater]

I don't see many of those deals as listed likely to happen being dependent on eachother. Sac would do better to just draft Doncic or Ayton at 2nd overall and roll with their young core.Cavs are not taking Batum in any deal without Smith outgoing. Buying either out esp Batum is overpay to get that deal done with Kemba on a rental

[DusterBuster]

Portland isn't touching that offer. To the chagrin of many Blazer fans on RealGM, the likelihood of the Blazers trading CJ is pretty minimal. If the Blazers do move CJ, it'll be for a player of equal caliber, not for a rebuilding package.

[Alatan]

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Trade#1
CLE get McCollum and the 2nd overall pick via SAC
SAC gets TT, Korver and the 8th overall pick via CLE
POR gets Bogdanovic, Hield, Koufos and a 2021 1st rd pick via SAC
*Not sure why SAC would give this all up but it was in an article I recently read. Does POR give up on the dynamic backcourt of Lillard and McCollum and start rebuilding?
...

Sac needs to be completely **** crazy to do a deal like this. Downgrading from 2 to 8, taking on TTs toxic contracts and giving up Bogdanovic and Hield along with a 1st round pick for what? Korver? LMAO

[No-Man]

Trading Clarkson makes no sense, negative value, bring him from the bench next year at about 25minpg or so and let him put up numbers, move him by the deadline.

Trade Love and Korver, they are positive assets, gonna be able to get some picks and shed salary there.

Use Hill and JR, both are basically expiring, 19-20 non-guaranteed, to grab 2 year contracts that end in 2020, some desperate teams that want to compete are out there and you are gonna be able to get some assets in the way.

Tristan I think can be moved for value too, his contract runs 2 years fully guaranteed but some teams that have worse Centers can probably think about swapping them for him and maybe give you a pick or a young guy in the process.

Keep Osman, Nance and Zizic, not gonna bring enough value in a trade and you are better off trying them, keep 8th also.
Try to go for young undervalued players in the market, keep the team cheap.

I'd not extend Hood the QO honestly, he is a good player but too old to build around for when this team will be ready, and he has burned bridges with the organization.

Tank the hell out the next 2 seasons, you should have plenty of capspace and hopefully young talent and assets for the 2020 and 2021 free agencies.

If Ty Lue doesn't want to coach such team, bring in some cheap young coach.

[gflem]

Trading Clarkson makes no sense, negative value, bring him from the bench next year at about 25minpg or so and let him put up numbers, move him by the deadline.

Trade Love and Korver, they are positive assets, gonna be able to get some picks and shed salary there.

Use Hill and JR, both are basically expiring, 19-20 non-guaranteed, to grab 2 year contracts that end in 2020, some desperate teams that want to compete are out there and you are gonna be able to get some assets in the way.

Tristan I think can be moved for value too, his contract runs 2 years fully guaranteed but some teams that have worse Centers can probably think about swapping them for him and maybe give you a pick or a young guy in the process.

Keep Osman, Nance and Zizic, not gonna bring enough value in a trade and you are better off trying them, keep 8th also.
Try to go for young undervalued players in the market, keep the team cheap.

I'd not extend Hood the QO honestly, he is a good player but too old to build around for when this team will be ready, and he has burned bridges with the organization.

Tank the hell out the next 2 seasons, you should have plenty of capspace and hopefully young talent and assets for the 2020 and 2021 free agencies.

If Ty Lue doesn't want to coach such team, bring in some cheap young coach.

All this assuming Lebron leaves right? I would agree with this other than keeping Hood on the cheap if possible.
In the event Lebron goes somewhere else I wouldn't even mind taking on some big contracts for a couple of seasons as long as we can stockpile some picks for this season and of course in the future.
Houston (future picks), Clippers (this draft) are looking to drop salary to acquire players could be willing to deal, and I'm sure there are others as well. Its going to be another interesting offseason for sure.

[Trailbreaker]

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Trade#1
CLE get McCollum and the 2nd overall pick via SAC
SAC gets TT, Korver and the 8th overall pick via CLE
POR gets Bogdanovic, Hield, Koufos and a 2021 1st rd pick via SAC
*Not sure why SAC would give this all up but it was in an article I recently read. Does POR give up on the dynamic backcourt of Lillard and McCollum and start rebuilding?
...

Sac needs to be completely **** crazy to do a deal like this. Downgrading from 2 to 8, taking on TTs toxic contracts and giving up Bogdanovic and Hield along with a 1st round pick for what? Korver? LMAO

Maybe Billy King has been hanging out with Vlade Divac.

[hookshot199]

It's time to right the ship in The Land. Bad contracts and players underperforming are driving me insane. The following trades may not be perfect or even probable, but they have some potential. The Cavs have been linked to McCollum, Kawhi and Kemba recently. Each player has one reason or another why they may be on the trade block this offseason. Let's review how we can acquire not just one of them but all of them in a massive rebuild. Gilbert and Altman need to convince LeBron to stay and here's how:

-Trade Love, TT, Korver, Hill and Clarkson
-Give Hood the qualifying offer (should be in the 3 mil range) and do not match any higher offer. I'd let him walk on any other deal but the qualifying offer.
-Buy-out JR or Batum (see below trade where we acquire Batum). Batum is slated to make 24 mil next season...and you thought JR was overpaid
-Bring back Green and Calderon on team-friendly deals
-Find a few vets who are ring-chasing and willing to play on league minimum deals and reduced roles (maybe bring back RJ and Frye)
-The roster rounds out w/ two 2-way G-League players

And the trades...

Trade#1
CLE get McCollum and the 2nd overall pick via SAC
SAC gets TT, Korver and the 8th overall pick via CLE
POR gets Bogdanovic, Hield, Koufos and a 2021 1st rd pick via SAC
*Not sure why SAC would give this all up but it was in an article I recently read. Does POR give up on the dynamic backcourt of Lillard and McCollum and start rebuilding?

Trade #2
CLE gets Kawhi
SA gets Hill and the 2nd overall pick
*I honestly think the 2nd overall pick could sway SA if Kawhi truly wants out. Hill fits their system perfectly as well.

Trade #3
CLE gets Kemba and Batum
CHO gets Love and Clarkson
*CHO is dying to shed some bad contracts (Batum) and they're in NBA purgatory being in the middle of the standings every season. Not good enough to make a run in the playoffs and not bad enough to get a high enough draft pick to improve their team.

Dream scenario, right? Future picks via CLE may need to be added to sway the other teams but I'd risk the future for this haul. Lebron supposedly wants a lighter load and w/ these moves he can play off the ball and sit as many games/minutes as he wants. Even if LeBron leaves, why not pursue these players? We all know LeBron is arguably the greatest of all-time but a 3-headed monster of Kemba/McCollum/Kawhi w/ the right supporting cast is worthy of being a championship contender in my opinion. If Lebron does indeed leave, that frees up space to go after someone noteworthy or a couple solid players as well.

Potential Roster:
Starters- Kemba/McCollum/Kawhi/Lebron/Nance
Bench- Green/JR or Batum/Cedi/Zizic/Calderon/3 vets on minimum/two 2-way G-Leaguers

I come as a friend from Philly but only will join this thread if your moderator gives me a thumbs up. The issue as I see it - and I'll keep this very short - is protecting your 2019 or 2020 pick (top-10 protected) which you traded away for Kyle Korver.

If you decide to go into a full tank, which is not the right of an outsider to push aggressively and be considered as a troll on your board (and surely is not my intent), the decision comes down to protecting your pick, having a shot at a top-five pick and perhaps even a number one pick in the 2019 and 2020 drafts.

Anyway, I won't say more unless someone wishes to engage me. I am not coming as a troll. I was in the Delta lounge in Detroit on June 16, 2015 when you were playing without Kyrie and Kevin Love - thank you for your "clean play" (sic) Kelly Olynyk! - and you just wore out. It should have been your first title.

From NBADraft.net, its 2019 mock draft.

The Cavs' picks (if a bottom-five team)

1. RJ Barrett 6-6 210 SG Duke HSSr.
2. Nassir Little 6-6 215 SF North Carolina HSSr.
3. Sekou Doumbouya 6-9 230 SF/PF France Intl.
4. Zion Williamson 6-6 260 PF Duke HSSr.
5. Nazreon Reid 6-10 250 C LSU HSSr.

Houston's picks (if LeBron goes to Houston by way of a sign and trade)
28. Kenny Wooten 6-9 220 PF Oregon Fr.
29. Keldon Johnson 6-6 215 SG Kentucky HSSr.
30. Isaac Bonga 6-9 200 SF/PF Germany Intl.

Good luck whatever you do!!!

[Stillwater]

There is no rebuild if Lebron opts in and wants to make 1 more run at it which will depend heavily on what the org does in the draft and who they can acquire in the way of ring chasers and trades. With Thompsons contract running out after next season there is a good chance he is movable after showing up strong in the playoffs despite the bad season that we can chock up to injury and leave it at that. Missing his action as a rebounder is worth the gamble to get another ball handler that can get to the rim and create more offense.
Retool is the correct verbiage if he stays , a full rebuild could but probably shouldn't really start this off season if he leaves and be the smartest choice.
A lot of contracts will fall off the books in the coming years and moving expirings for draft assets ect is more likely to happen at the deadline.
As far as this summer;
Love's value in a trade with the 8th might return a significant player, but then we are down an all star to get a different one, and so that seems less desirable imo. Unless the player is better than Love and we also get a decent pick this season after giving up our own.
I don't think despite Hill's solid 2-way game and bb iq that he is a good fit with Lebron, and should be moved if at all possible, not to mention he was terrible on the road in the playoffs and seems to lack the fire and clutch gene we need from a 1 guard.

[hookshot199]

There is no rebuild if Lebron opts in and wants to make 1 more run at it which will depend heavily on what the org does in the draft and who they can acquire in the way of ring chasers and trades. With Thompsons contract running out after next season there is a good chance he is movable after showing up strong in the playoffs despite the bad season that we can chock up to injury and leave it at that. Missing his action as a rebounder is worth the gamble to get another ball handler that can get to the rim and create more offense.
Retool is the correct verbiage if he stays , a full rebuild could but probably shouldn't really start this off season if he leaves and be the smartest choice.
A lot of contracts will fall off the books in the coming years and moving expirings for draft assets ect is more likely to happen at the deadline.
As far as this summer;
Love's value in a trade with the 8th might return a significant player, but then we are down an all star to get a different one, and so that seems less desirable imo. Unless the player is better than Love and we also get a decent pick this season after giving up our own.
I don't think despite Hill's solid 2-way game and bb iq that he is a good fit with Lebron, and should be moved if at all possible, not to mention he was terrible on the road in the playoffs and seems to lack the fire and clutch gene we need from a 1 guard.

Again, if anyone finds fault with my responding, please tell me to stay off the board.

I hope for Cleveland fans' sake that LeBron opts in. My post was in the event he doesn't. Again, I hope he does.

But check if "spotrac.com" is wrong about Thompson's contract. If it's one more year guaranteed, he's got enormous trade value if you wish to move him. If it's two more years, it's more problematic.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/tristan-thompson-8054/

This is how spotrac details your roster overall: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/cap/



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[Stillwater]

There is no rebuild if Lebron opts in and wants to make 1 more run at it which will depend heavily on what the org does in the draft and who they can acquire in the way of ring chasers and trades. With Thompsons contract running out after next season there is a good chance he is movable after showing up strong in the playoffs despite the bad season that we can chock up to injury and leave it at that. Missing his action as a rebounder is worth the gamble to get another ball handler that can get to the rim and create more offense.
Retool is the correct verbiage if he stays , a full rebuild could but probably shouldn't really start this off season if he leaves and be the smartest choice.
A lot of contracts will fall off the books in the coming years and moving expirings for draft assets ect is more likely to happen at the deadline.
As far as this summer;
Love's value in a trade with the 8th might return a significant player, but then we are down an all star to get a different one, and so that seems less desirable imo. Unless the player is better than Love and we also get a decent pick this season after giving up our own.
I don't think despite Hill's solid 2-way game and bb iq that he is a good fit with Lebron, and should be moved if at all possible, not to mention he was terrible on the road in the playoffs and seems to lack the fire and clutch gene we need from a 1 guard.

Again, if anyone finds fault with my responding, please tell me to stay off the board.

I hope for Cleveland fans' sake that LeBron opts in. My post was in the event he doesn't. Again, I hope he does.

But check if "spotrac.com" is wrong about Thompson's contract. If it's one more year guaranteed, he's got enormous trade value if you wish to move him. If it's two more years, it's more problematic.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/tristan-thompson-8054/

This is how spotrac details your roster overall: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/cap/



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Was not responding to your post...
imo anyone is welcome on this forum that isn't trolling
You are right he isn't an ufa until 2020 so he is less movable than I thought...but still an option. I though he was rfa next season but he isn't.

[h2thaizzo]

We have assets. Most sports "fans" don't see it, because they simply see JR Smith owed 13.8 mil, or George Hill owed 20 mil and assume they aren't able to be traded. Then when you look deeper, you find out that Hill only has 1 mil guaranteed after next year. Smith only has about 3 mil of his last year guaranteed, so those guys are essentially in the last year of their deals. Korver only has 3 mil guaranteed after next year. So just in those 3 guys you have 42 million in "salaries" for 2019-2020 but only about 7.5 million guaranteed.

I love Korver, but I think the last two finals have proven that if we are planning on facing the Warriors, or the Rockets for that matter, he isn't going to be an asset we can use. They are far too good at closing out on his shot, and he either can't get one off, or rushes it before getting set.

Kevin Love I kind of feel the same about. I don't care what anyone says about him, the dude gets beat up but plays tough. However against the Warriors, we need athleticism on both ends of the floor. He has that old school game, but his percentages dropped so much against the Warriors. I'd definitely move him.



So we have pick #8, About 41 million in trade assets and Kevin Love that we can move.

I'd trade Love to Portland for Mo Harkless, Al-Farouq Aminu, a filler small salary player to make numbers align, and this year's first, plus at least one more future first. Portland would have a pretty nice balanced squad with Lillard, McCollum, Turner, Love and Nurkic. Aminu and Harkless are two guys who both are above average defenders who can defend multiple positions and superiorly more athletic than the players we currently have not named James or Nance or Thompson. Harkless is also an efficient offensive player who arguably has been ignored offensively because he was either on an Orlando Magic team with a terrible PG or the Blazers who had CJ and Lillard who both shoot a ton of shots per game. Coming here, he would have LeBron James (we hope) who always looks to find the open guy no matter who they are.

Next, I'd trade Korver to a team who is competing for the playoffs but needs a perimeter shooter. San Antonio, Milwaukee, Oklahoma City, Minnesota and Toronto are all teams that made the playoffs but were in the bottom half of the league in 3pt%. Milwaukee is a team who was hot with trade rumors at the deadline, and with Jabari Parker being a free agent, they could use some cap room down the road. I'd trade Korver and Hill for rim protector John Henson, Tony Snell and Matthee Dellavedova plus a future pick. Milwaukee would get a shooter in Korver that they could use on the floor with Giannis, Parker, Maker and Bledsoe. Hill would contribute until after the season when he can be cut for only $1 million. Another intriguing thought was Milwaukee was wanting to get into the Deandre Jordan sweepstakes last season. Could they send Hill's contract, their pick, and something else to make a deal happen? Out of this deal we would get another highly athletic defensive player in Henson, who is known as a rim protector, Tony Snell who just got signed to his contract, but underperformed. He is a great outside shooter, shooting over 40% from 3 the last two years, and Delly, who we know brings energy and effort to a team, and is a hound defensively.




Now, we have added SF Harkless, PF Aminu, PG Delly, C Henson and SG/SF Snell, plus we have #8 and #24 this year. So what do we do?

We have JR Smith's low guaranteed contract we can move. we have the two picks. Zizic may have some intrigue though I don't expect him to net much. Nance as well, but I want to keep him on this team. We could use upgrades both at PG and at SG going into the draft/season. So what do we do?

1.) I'd call Memphis about doing a sign & trade for Tyreke Evans. Evans has been a balanced scorer/passer/rebounder, and the last two years he has vastly improved his shooting. He can defend, and he is athletic. What I'd offer is JR Smith's essentially expiring contract and #24 that we got from Portland for Tyreke Evans. There aren't many teams with cap space to sign Evans to anything more than the MLE, and his injury history is going to be concerning to some teams.

So we addressed the upgrade at SG with Evans. Evans, Bron, Snell, Harkless and Cedi can all play the 2/3 positions, so we have a ton of versatility going into the season there, BUT, what about point guard? Well, we could either take Young or Sexton in the draft if we stay at #8. Would Charlotte accept #8, Clarkson, Zizic and a future #1 pick for Kemba Walker? Would we throw Cedi into the deal to sweeten it up some?

Some other alternatives to deals with the Memphis/Milwaukee/Charlotte deals above.
Parsons/Henson/Delly to Cleveland, Korver/Mclemore to Mil, Hill/Clarkson to Memphis. Mem would rid selves of the Parsons deal, Mil of the Delly deal. The Bucks would likely need to include a future pick.

Smith/Cedi/Zizic/#8/future picks for Kemba/Kaminsky, #55. Charlotte may prefer this over the Clarkson deal as JR is only owed 3 mil guaranteed after 2019, so he could be cut for a fraction of his contract. Maybe he and Dwight could be packaged for assets at the deadline, or with Batum to get rid of that contract?

Cleveland S&T Hood to Memphis along with #24 for Tyreke Evans (S&T). Memphis didn't deal Evans before the deadline because they wanted a first round pick. They get the pick they wanted after all.

PG Walker (28) 22.1 PPG/3.1 RPG/5.6 APG. Delly (27) 4.3 PPG/1.7 RPG/3.8 APG

SG Evans (28) 19.4 PPG/5.2 RPG/5.2 APG. Snell (26) 6.9 PPG/1.9 RPG/1.3 APG

SF LeBron(33) 27.5 PPG/8.6 RPG/9.1 APG. Harkless(25) 6.5 PPG/2.7 RPG/0.9 APG

PF Aminu(27) 9.3PPG/7.6 RPG/1.2 APG/1.1 SPG. Thompson (27) 5.8 PPG/6.6 RPG

C Henson (27) 8.8 PPG/6.8 RPG/1.1 APG/1.5 BPG. Nance(25) 8.9 PPG/7.0RPG/1.0 APG/1.2 SPG



With the roster above, our average age would be 27.3 years. We would be super athletic at positions 2-5, and we would have a backup PG that defends well, he proved that in the finals in back to back years, and a starting PG who would demand effort from other star guards defending him. All of the players playing positions 1-3 are exceptional shooters. Including Aminu, who has shot well from outside the last two years, Our perimeter shooters in the roster above would be shooting 38.23% from 3 and making nearly 11 3pt shots per game if they maintained their numbers from this season. This team would have three legit scorers in the starting lineup, a team full of athletic, defensive minded players who can either shoot from the perimeter or score inside efficiently, and we would have a few guys who can defend the paint. We'd also have the MLE to pay out to a veteran free agent, and you know there are some hungry veterans who would love to team up with LeBron and take down the Warriors.



We could re-sign Hood, or S&T him elsewhere if there was a team interested in him but without cap space to sign him if he commanded more than the MLE. We could look to re-sign Jeff Green for another year, as he gives us some versatility, although he didn't do well in the Finals.

[dalton749]

I think you guys will be surprised at how low the offers are for love unfortunately.
I think it goes something like:

Charlotte: gilchrist, monk, kaminsky, 11
Indiana: young, sabonis, 23
Miami: whiteside, 2019 1st (lotto protected)
Toronto: valanciunas, powell
Milwaukee: Jabari Parker sign and trade
Washington: gortat, smith, oubre, 15
Minnesota: wiggins, dieng, 20 for love, hill
Utah: favors sign and trade, 19 for love
Portland: turner, Collins, Swanigan, 24

I just can’t see there being a major where someone is willing to stake something meaningful on him being the difference maker. Charlotte probably gives the best offer because they’re the neediest. After that the Milwaukee, Minnesota or Toronto offers are probably the best choice for getting some decent long term.

[Revenged25]

I think you guys will be surprised at how low the offers are for love unfortunately.
I think it goes something like:

Charlotte: gilchrist, monk, kaminsky, 11
Indiana: young, sabonis, 23
Miami: whiteside, 2019 1st (lotto protected)
Toronto: valanciunas, powell
Milwaukee: Jabari Parker sign and trade
Washington: gortat, smith, oubre, 15
Minnesota: wiggins, dieng, 20 for love, hill
Utah: favors sign and trade, 19 for love
Portland: turner, Collins, Swanigan, 24

I just can’t see there being a major where someone is willing to stake something meaningful on him being the difference maker. Charlotte probably gives the best offer because they’re the neediest. After that the Milwaukee, Minnesota or Toronto offers are probably the best choice for getting some decent long term.

Is all that what you are saying the offers for Love are? If so, those don't seem that bad. Also think Love could do it for Memphis in a Parsons + 4 for Love, maybe some other things tossed around.

[Stillwater]

I think you guys will be surprised at how low the offers are for love unfortunately.
I think it goes something like:

Charlotte: gilchrist, monk, kaminsky, 11
Indiana: young, sabonis, 23
Miami: whiteside, 2019 1st (lotto protected)
Toronto: valanciunas, powell
Milwaukee: Jabari Parker sign and trade
Washington: gortat, smith, oubre, 15
Minnesota: wiggins, dieng, 20 for love, hill
Utah: favors sign and trade, 19 for love
Portland: turner, Collins, Swanigan, 24

I just can’t see there being a major where someone is willing to stake something meaningful on him being the difference maker. Charlotte probably gives the best offer because they’re the neediest. After that the Milwaukee, Minnesota or Toronto offers are probably the best choice for getting some decent long term.

Is all that what you are saying the offers for Love are? If so, those don't seem that bad. Also think Love could do it for Memphis in a Parsons + 4 for Love, maybe some other things tossed around.

Right I proposed Cavs take back Parsons ,Green to get the 4th and 32nd sending out Love Korver and 2021 lottery protected first.
both teams are winners in that scenario despite taking on the dead weight of Parsons albatross. having the 4th and 8th & 32nd picks in this draft is a solid start to a retool and the 4th gives us ammo to go after another player if the goal is to contend next season.

[Revenged25]

I think you guys will be surprised at how low the offers are for love unfortunately.
I think it goes something like:

Charlotte: gilchrist, monk, kaminsky, 11
Indiana: young, sabonis, 23
Miami: whiteside, 2019 1st (lotto protected)
Toronto: valanciunas, powell
Milwaukee: Jabari Parker sign and trade
Washington: gortat, smith, oubre, 15
Minnesota: wiggins, dieng, 20 for love, hill
Utah: favors sign and trade, 19 for love
Portland: turner, Collins, Swanigan, 24

I just can’t see there being a major where someone is willing to stake something meaningful on him being the difference maker. Charlotte probably gives the best offer because they’re the neediest. After that the Milwaukee, Minnesota or Toronto offers are probably the best choice for getting some decent long term.

Is all that what you are saying the offers for Love are? If so, those don't seem that bad. Also think Love could do it for Memphis in a Parsons + 4 for Love, maybe some other things tossed around.

Right I proposed Cavs take back Parsons ,Green to get the 4th and 32nd sending out Love Korver and 2021 lottery protected first.
both teams are winners in that scenario despite taking on the dead weight of Parsons albatross. having the 4th and 8th & 32nd picks in this draft is a solid start to a retool and the 4th gives us ammo to go after another player if the goal is to contend next season.

If that's the case I'd probably would do either the Charlotte, Indian, or your Memphis trade, likely the Memphis trade if all those were the ones on the table.

[KuruptedCav]

It's time to right the ship in The Land. Bad contracts and players underperforming are driving me insane. The following trades may not be perfect or even probable, but they have some potential. The Cavs have been linked to McCollum, Kawhi and Kemba recently. Each player has one reason or another why they may be on the trade block this offseason. Let's review how we can acquire not just one of them but all of them in a massive rebuild. Gilbert and Altman need to convince LeBron to stay and here's how:

-Trade Love, TT, Korver, Hill and Clarkson
-Give Hood the qualifying offer (should be in the 3 mil range) and do not match any higher offer. I'd let him walk on any other deal but the qualifying offer.
-Buy-out JR or Batum (see below trade where we acquire Batum). Batum is slated to make 24 mil next season...and you thought JR was overpaid
-Bring back Green and Calderon on team-friendly deals
-Find a few vets who are ring-chasing and willing to play on league minimum deals and reduced roles (maybe bring back RJ and Frye)
-The roster rounds out w/ two 2-way G-League players

And the trades...

Trade#1
CLE get McCollum and the 2nd overall pick via SAC
SAC gets TT, Korver and the 8th overall pick via CLE
POR gets Bogdanovic, Hield, Koufos and a 2021 1st rd pick via SAC
*Not sure why SAC would give this all up but it was in an article I recently read. Does POR give up on the dynamic backcourt of Lillard and McCollum and start rebuilding?

Trade #2
CLE gets Kawhi
SA gets Hill and the 2nd overall pick
*I honestly think the 2nd overall pick could sway SA if Kawhi truly wants out. Hill fits their system perfectly as well.

Trade #3
CLE gets Kemba and Batum
CHO gets Love and Clarkson
*CHO is dying to shed some bad contracts (Batum) and they're in NBA purgatory being in the middle of the standings every season. Not good enough to make a run in the playoffs and not bad enough to get a high enough draft pick to improve their team.

Dream scenario, right? Future picks via CLE may need to be added to sway the other teams but I'd risk the future for this haul. Lebron supposedly wants a lighter load and w/ these moves he can play off the ball and sit as many games/minutes as he wants. Even if LeBron leaves, why not pursue these players? We all know LeBron is arguably the greatest of all-time but a 3-headed monster of Kemba/McCollum/Kawhi w/ the right supporting cast is worthy of being a championship contender in my opinion. If Lebron does indeed leave, that frees up space to go after someone noteworthy or a couple solid players as well.

Potential Roster:
Starters- Kemba/McCollum/Kawhi/Lebron/Nance
Bench- Green/JR or Batum/Cedi/Zizic/Calderon/3 vets on minimum/two 2-way G-Leaguers

I like the enthusiasm, but unless Divac has an embolism that can only be cured by a Cleveland Clinic doctor with courtside tickets and no moral compass, TT, Korver and #8 simply don’t have that value.


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The most valuable asset the Cavs have is Dan Gilbert’s checkbook. Never underestimate the value of cash. So, let’s see how much Santa Dan can do?

1) George Hill has $20 mil gtd, $19 mil in 2018/19. That means he can bring back $23.85 million in yr1 salary. His deal is over two years so he can be stretched over 5 years at $4 million per.

2) JR Smith has $18.59 million gtd, $14.72 million in 2018/19. That means the Cavs can take back $18.5 million in yr1 salary. Smith can be stretched over 5 years at $3.7 million.

3) $5.3 taxpayer MLE

4) $2.5 million trade exception for Richard Jefferson.

5) $1.312 million trade exception for Kay Felder


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you may check cedi's games with turkish national team. it is clear that he is improving himself consistently. last night he played with 11 rebs and generally scoring 20+. I hope he can find a place to himself in rebuilding cavs.