gflem wrote:Stillwater wrote:gflem wrote:I am in favor of Hunter or Culver at 5, or 6 or 7, if a deal is made. I think Culver has a higher upside, but not by much, and with both guys there isnt any concern about attitude or maturity as with Porter. If we want a project, we can get that at 26. I dont know much about Garland other than what is written, but it was the same with Kryrie so it is possible he is the best pro player picked after the top 2 or 3 players picked.
I am not sold on Cedi being a core player either, so either Hunter or Culver, who I think are going to be at least quality starting level NBA players with the possibility of being All Star players, would be solid choices and fill a glaring need for this team.
Thats just it though...Porter is not a project at all, he is arguably the most dynamic iso player in this draft with good size and explosiveness, that has a much much higher ceiing than Culver at the same position. His maturity certainly could be a red flag to pass on him, but the interview process at the combine if his interview with the announcers is any indication where he owned his mentality issues proves he is mature enough to get focussed and should not be a concern nearly as much as if he didn't own it.
Garland is an elite shooter, and there is an argument that he is just as good a prospect as Ja, but he clearly lack explosiveness and length so it would also come as no surprise he might have some struggles as he is not the same level of ballhandler as Irving for example.
For a project at 26 you look at Claxton as a potential elite defender down the road
Yeah, I wasn't really referring to Porter as a project but the way I wrote that does make it seem that way. But I do think some of the things you hold against Reddish are also questions about Porter in regards to him not raising his team to even a tournament level team. I wonder if that brings to question his competitiveness and or leadership ability, things I would certainly look for in a top 5 pick.
Not really at all a similarity between Cam Reddish and Kevin Porter as far as mental issues. Porter had a nagging thigh injury he tried to play through after missing seven games , Reddish missed a tournament game because his tummy hurt.
The issues with Porter were immaturity meaning off court trouble but not to the extent of law breaking his on court style is almost the opposite of Reddish where Porter is aggressive dynamic and an elite finish through contact prospect with decent explosiveness.
Porter to me looks like he will be a better version of Jimmy Butler if he reaches his ceiling.
Reddish could be an option if they trade down, but I can't see him being at the top of anyone's board in the top 7.
