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I am posting a couple of trade ideas just between 2 orgs not multi team ones
I think the org is realizing unfortunately maybe a little too late that they need to add yet even more
weapons to this roster across the board to facilitate Beileins system and need to move most if not all the vets to get pieces for Beilein to work with.
I also posted some with Garland outgoing, which is unlikely this soon, but if it can help then load up some it is becoming clear him and Sexton are pretty unlikely to share a back court successfully and Sexton has shown more being here longer etc, just the feeling I have for where they might steer if they cant get anything for Love this season.
poll allows for 1-10 selections no limit

So none of the Garland trades are happening. In addition to just taking a beating on value, the sample size is way too small. Sexton still looked pretty bad at this point last year. I want to see a full season of him shooting from three point range before I'd even consider moving him. Trading him this early would also be an admission that F.O. doesn't know what it's doing.

If the Cavs could get the Pelicans to do that trade, it's a clear winner. But I'm skeptical Griffin would pull the trigger for the same reason the Cavs aren't trading Garland.

I'm not seeing anything from Nas Little that makes me think he should be the key piece in a Love trade and the Blazers aren't trading Nurkic. He's more important to their long-term success than McCollum at this point.

I'd pass on the Heat trade. You can't bank on guys who are playing in the G League.

I wouldn't want JV here. I don't think you can make Beilein's offense work with him, and if Love not getting enough touches is a problem, just wait until JV comes here and doesn't get to eat.

If you can get Bridges from the Suns, I think you pull the trigger. Obviously ask for pick compensation as well but I wouldn't insist on Saric. You have to sign him to a Cedi salary this summer for him to have positive value long-term IMO. They could toss in Kamnisky instead.

Unless we get a lottery-protected first coming back for TT, I'm not interested. Frankly, I've kind of a done a 180 on him. He plays hard, he's a really good influence around the young guys, and you need vets who can step into the breach when it starts going sideways. I'm not sure I'd offer him a long deal, but I'd offer him a $20M one-year deal next summer.

Also, Ibaka and/or Gasol won't even want to get on the plane coming here. You're talking instant buyouts for those guys.

The Kings didn't even pick up Gabriel's option. You don't want to trade for him. You can grab him for free if his knee isn't shot.

The Clarkson trade is light. We should at least get the GS second and he's not what the Mavs need. The Pistons, Hawks, and Magic could all use some instant offense off the bench.

Finally, I don't know what Sexton's trade value is, but if the right offer came along, you'd be foolish not to entertain it.

^ I hear you, and yeah a lot of these are about the best I think CLE can expect to do even if they are not "great" overall.
I don't think Garland is getting moved this season either, but in the same breath even though it looks bad if they could get 3 role players for him from WAS 2 of which would start on this team when they got here , it's better than getting stuck with him if he never gets it together which right now is starting to look to be the case. he only pads his stats in garbage time and really has not had much impact other than negative imo. What troubles me more is I think Garland is actually worsening Sextons impact this season esp with the direction he was headed to close out his rookie season. I would be more than content moving Sexton back to the 1 spot to close of the season and if he just never gets good enough by this summer as a distributor then you have an easy decision in the lottery given it is loaded with pg's at the top.
But since they took Garland in this past draft we are probably stuck with him and yes they might even get enough interest in Sexton to move him, but I would think they will regret it in the long run.
I just figure TT will leave or want to much to justify keeping even though he has been great all season in his contract year though so there is that too.
I think the Miami deal is an underpay for Love but I also think it could be the most likely to happen that I posted

I'm standing pat for now. lol

That probably means you did a good job balancing the deals.

JonFromVA wrote:I'm standing pat for now. lol

That probably means you did a good job balancing the deals.

I think I would do the Detroit trade...

I wanted Sekou over Garland to begin with and running with Sexton/KPJ/Sekou/Love/TT would be pretty interesting line-up with much better size.

Revenged25 wrote:

JonFromVA wrote:I'm standing pat for now. lol

That probably means you did a good job balancing the deals.

I think I would do the Detroit trade...

I wanted Sekou over Garland to begin with and running with Sexton/KPJ/Sekou/Love/TT would be pretty interesting line-up with much better size.

We can't assume Sexton can be a starting PG in the league at this point. We drafted Garland because of that and nothing much has changed in that respect (so far).

If we are going to deal Love, I'd be shooting for the Sun's 2020 first round pick (unprotected!). Sarver still runs their show and if they want to make the playoffs, they just might take the gamble that they can make a run now. If they miss - I want the Cavs to get those lottery odds.

Now that may be completely unrealistic, but I'm also fine with not making a trade if we can't do something that pushes the needle.

Revenged25 wrote:

JonFromVA wrote:I'm standing pat for now. lol

That probably means you did a good job balancing the deals.

I think I would do the Detroit trade...

I wanted Sekou over Garland to begin with and running with Sexton/KPJ/Sekou/Love/TT would be pretty interesting line-up with much better size.

Sekou is in the G league. He's played 11 minutes total in the NBA. People who would make that trade should probably ask how good Garland would look in the G League.

jbk1234 wrote:

Revenged25 wrote:

JonFromVA wrote:I'm standing pat for now. lol

That probably means you did a good job balancing the deals.

I think I would do the Detroit trade...

I wanted Sekou over Garland to begin with and running with Sexton/KPJ/Sekou/Love/TT would be pretty interesting line-up with much better size.

Sekou is in the G league. He's played 11 minutes total in the NBA. People who would make that trade should probably ask how good Garland would look in the G League.

I do hope we get to see Dean Wade sooner rather than later. If we think he might be able to fill in for say Kevin after a trade, it can't hurt to get him some minutes with the team and see what he can do. He's off to a decent enough start with Canton, albeit he's not quite tearing up the league like Darnell Jackson once did, lol.

Blazers would not trade Nurk for Love straight up, even if you threw in a 1st round pick. Nurk is one of the best centers in the league when healthy, is much younger, and on a super-bargain contract.

jbk1234 wrote:

Revenged25 wrote:

JonFromVA wrote:I'm standing pat for now. lol

That probably means you did a good job balancing the deals.

I think I would do the Detroit trade...

I wanted Sekou over Garland to begin with and running with Sexton/KPJ/Sekou/Love/TT would be pretty interesting line-up with much better size.

Sekou is in the G league. He's played 11 minutes total in the NBA. People who would make that trade should probably ask how good Garland would look in the G League.

Garland would not look better than Sekou at all imo… he has had plenty of opportunities with the ball and no one on him to capitalize on unearned pt , I mean he has failed on pretty much every level so far. He will get better once he gets stronger, but how much better? Is he DJ Augustine or is he better than that? I'm guessing hes DJ.
Garlands numbers might be a little better I guess in the G league than now because he wouldn't be trying to pass to anyone and would take more shots and they don't play any defense down there but Sekou has shown far more than half the lottery picked players already just on defense and in catch and shoot makes and is stuck behind Blake or he would be playing more.
I can't believe some of you have this notion Sexton can't be an effective passer esp in a Beilein system that is apparently wanting to use two combo guards instead of one lead guard and one true off guard which they have neither of yet had every intention of having neither of when they made these picks. Sexton has already started showing significant iq improvement since he was drafted , and already has shown significant improvement with his handles and gotten much stronger. His vision is markedly better when they run even though he still struggles in half court sets ...I would not be at all surprised if he takes the job of point more often from Garland before the season is out if they do move towards traditional assignments and sets where Garland will get his chance in the G league putting up similar numbers to what he is right now as an nba starter and have zero aka bust trade value afterwards where at least right now somebody might still gamble on him needing a more traditional system to do well

Sinobas wrote:Blazers would not trade Nurk for Love straight up, even if you threw in a 1st round pick. Nurk is one of the best centers in the league when healthy, is much younger, and on a super-bargain contract.

yeah but he is not healthy so the undervaluing of Love is your problem here not me undervalueing Nurkic who btw has to be included to make the deal possible for CLE to pull the t

JonFromVA wrote:

Revenged25 wrote:

JonFromVA wrote:I'm standing pat for now. lol

That probably means you did a good job balancing the deals.

I think I would do the Detroit trade...

I wanted Sekou over Garland to begin with and running with Sexton/KPJ/Sekou/Love/TT would be pretty interesting line-up with much better size.

We can't assume Sexton can be a starting PG in the league at this point. We drafted Garland because of that and nothing much has changed in that respect (so far).

If we are going to deal Love, I'd be shooting for the Sun's 2020 first round pick (unprotected!). Sarver still runs their show and if they want to make the playoffs, they just might take the gamble that they can make a run now. If they miss - I want the Cavs to get those lottery odds.

Now that may be completely unrealistic, but I'm also fine with not making a trade if we can't do something that pushes the needle.

I am not sold on that at this point given they are both score first guards and only Sexton has shown the ability to be somewhat effective defensively after a full off season of strength training , I mean garland does have better anticipation of plays in half court sets playing point all his life so yeah, but he really is not a "floor general" either.
I think we went with what seemed like the BPA and Sextons game had nothing to do with it

Stillwater wrote:

JonFromVA wrote:

Revenged25 wrote:
I think I would do the Detroit trade...

I wanted Sekou over Garland to begin with and running with Sexton/KPJ/Sekou/Love/TT would be pretty interesting line-up with much better size.

We can't assume Sexton can be a starting PG in the league at this point. We drafted Garland because of that and nothing much has changed in that respect (so far).

If we are going to deal Love, I'd be shooting for the Sun's 2020 first round pick (unprotected!). Sarver still runs their show and if they want to make the playoffs, they just might take the gamble that they can make a run now. If they miss - I want the Cavs to get those lottery odds.

Now that may be completely unrealistic, but I'm also fine with not making a trade if we can't do something that pushes the needle.

I am not sold on that at this point given they are both score first guards and only Sexton has shown the ability to be somewhat effective defensively after a full off season of strength training , I mean garland does have better anticipation of plays in half court sets playing point all his life so yeah, but he really is not a "floor general" either.
I think we went with what seemed like the BPA and Sextons game had nothing to do with it

Garland fits the Steph/Dame/Kyrie prototype, though, so he will get a long hard look before anyone gives up on him. Technically, neither Garland nor Sexton seems to be a very good fit as a "system pg" so it's not surprising both have been struggling with it.

But Sexton had carte blanche with the ball last year, and generated pretty crappy assist and assist% numbers. I thought Kyrie had issues running a team, but by the numbers he's like 2x the PG that Sexton was as a rook. The Cavs didn't miss that and what they've done so far have not been aimed at fixing it. Sexton played best off-the ball, so that's what they've settled on trying to do with him; but if they can't make it work - his next stop is 6th man or traded.

Garland, otoh, has been reigned in pretty tight and brought along much slower than Collin. Beilein can certainly try to turn him in to something he's never been, but if he's going to get back on the Steph-track there are certain things he has to change and that have to change around him. For one thing, he'd need to go Trae Young crazy and just shoot and shoot and shoot until he finds his shot. If/once he finds it, then he starts generating gravity like Steph and defenses have to treat him differently. They can just run dumb old high P&R's and they either double him creating open looks for teammates or he shoots or he drives in to an open paint. Dumb. Simple. Effective.

Well, give or take the teammate part and being able to space the floor.

Trae Young is still perhaps the worst defender in the league, but his shooting and passing are making up for that. That's kind of where Darius might be next year if we choose to play to his strengths. If Beilein manages to mold him in to his style of player? We'll probably see fewer points, lower assists, but hopefully higher efficiency due to more conservative shot selection and a higher number of assisted shots.

I'd love to believe Collin has some latent PG skills, so by all means stay on his bandwagon and keep bringing to our attention anything you feel demonstrates his development or potential in that area. Personally, I'm disappointed his 3pt shooting has fallen off. He's shot just 17 of 60 since the beginning of November whereas Garland is 31 of 85. If Collin had taken his shot to the next level and started knock down 3's off the dribble this season, then he'd be a far more credible double threat and it could be argued he deserved another chance to see what he could do spamming high P&R's.

Unfortunately, nobody is really going to look as good as they would if we had credible floor spacing.

JonFromVA wrote:

Stillwater wrote:

JonFromVA wrote:
We can't assume Sexton can be a starting PG in the league at this point. We drafted Garland because of that and nothing much has changed in that respect (so far).

If we are going to deal Love, I'd be shooting for the Sun's 2020 first round pick (unprotected!). Sarver still runs their show and if they want to make the playoffs, they just might take the gamble that they can make a run now. If they miss - I want the Cavs to get those lottery odds.

Now that may be completely unrealistic, but I'm also fine with not making a trade if we can't do something that pushes the needle.

I am not sold on that at this point given they are both score first guards and only Sexton has shown the ability to be somewhat effective defensively after a full off season of strength training , I mean garland does have better anticipation of plays in half court sets playing point all his life so yeah, but he really is not a "floor general" either.
I think we went with what seemed like the BPA and Sextons game had nothing to do with it

Garland fits the Steph/Dame/Kyrie prototype, though, so he will get a long hard look before anyone gives up on him. Technically, neither Garland nor Sexton seems to be a very good fit as a "system pg" so it's not surprising both have been struggling with it.

But Sexton had carte blanche with the ball last year, and generated pretty crappy assist and assist% numbers. I thought Kyrie had issues running a team, but by the numbers he's like 2x the PG that Sexton was as a rook. The Cavs didn't miss that and what they've done so far have not been aimed at fixing it. Sexton played best off-the ball, so that's what they've settled on trying to do with him; but if they can't make it work - his next stop is 6th man or traded.

Garland, otoh, has been reigned in pretty tight and brought along much slower than Collin. Beilein can certainly try to turn him in to something he's never been, but if he's going to get back on the Steph-track there are certain things he has to change and that have to change around him. For one thing, he'd need to go Trae Young crazy and just shoot and shoot and shoot until he finds his shot. If/once he finds it, then he starts generating gravity like Steph and defenses have to treat him differently. They can just run dumb old high P&R's and they either double him creating open looks for teammates or he shoots or he drives in to an open paint. Dumb. Simple. Effective.

Well, give or take the teammate part and being able to space the floor.

Trae Young is still perhaps the worst defender in the league, but his shooting and passing are making up for that. That's kind of where Darius might be next year if we choose to play to his strengths. If Beilein manages to mold him in to his style of player? We'll probably see fewer points, lower assists, but hopefully higher efficiency due to more conservative shot selection and a higher number of assisted shots.

I'd love to believe Collin has some latent PG skills, so by all means stay on his bandwagon and keep bringing to our attention anything you feel demonstrates his development or potential in that area. Personally, I'm disappointed his 3pt shooting has fallen off. He's shot just 17 of 60 since the beginning of November whereas Garland is 31 of 85. If Collin had taken his shot to the next level and started knock down 3's off the dribble this season, then he'd be a far more credible double threat and it could be argued he deserved another chance to see what he could do spamming high P&R's.

Unfortunately, nobody is really going to look as good as they would if we had credible floor spacing.

Sexton is struggling because he is playing next to gomer pyle not Steph Curry. Sexton may have played well off ball next to a real pg but he was better on ball when there wasn't a true pg out there with him.
His shooting % is directly related to him being completly out of rhythm and that is reflective of teammates not him.
I mean sure it would be nice if he could keep working on his shooting off the dribble like last season but he apparently has to work on being a better catch and shoot off guard nd it aint happenning

Stillwater wrote:

JonFromVA wrote:

Stillwater wrote:I am not sold on that at this point given they are both score first guards and only Sexton has shown the ability to be somewhat effective defensively after a full off season of strength training , I mean garland does have better anticipation of plays in half court sets playing point all his life so yeah, but he really is not a "floor general" either.
I think we went with what seemed like the BPA and Sextons game had nothing to do with it

Garland fits the Steph/Dame/Kyrie prototype, though, so he will get a long hard look before anyone gives up on him. Technically, neither Garland nor Sexton seems to be a very good fit as a "system pg" so it's not surprising both have been struggling with it.

But Sexton had carte blanche with the ball last year, and generated pretty crappy assist and assist% numbers. I thought Kyrie had issues running a team, but by the numbers he's like 2x the PG that Sexton was as a rook. The Cavs didn't miss that and what they've done so far have not been aimed at fixing it. Sexton played best off-the ball, so that's what they've settled on trying to do with him; but if they can't make it work - his next stop is 6th man or traded.

Garland, otoh, has been reigned in pretty tight and brought along much slower than Collin. Beilein can certainly try to turn him in to something he's never been, but if he's going to get back on the Steph-track there are certain things he has to change and that have to change around him. For one thing, he'd need to go Trae Young crazy and just shoot and shoot and shoot until he finds his shot. If/once he finds it, then he starts generating gravity like Steph and defenses have to treat him differently. They can just run dumb old high P&R's and they either double him creating open looks for teammates or he shoots or he drives in to an open paint. Dumb. Simple. Effective.

Well, give or take the teammate part and being able to space the floor.

Trae Young is still perhaps the worst defender in the league, but his shooting and passing are making up for that. That's kind of where Darius might be next year if we choose to play to his strengths. If Beilein manages to mold him in to his style of player? We'll probably see fewer points, lower assists, but hopefully higher efficiency due to more conservative shot selection and a higher number of assisted shots.

I'd love to believe Collin has some latent PG skills, so by all means stay on his bandwagon and keep bringing to our attention anything you feel demonstrates his development or potential in that area. Personally, I'm disappointed his 3pt shooting has fallen off. He's shot just 17 of 60 since the beginning of November whereas Garland is 31 of 85. If Collin had taken his shot to the next level and started knock down 3's off the dribble this season, then he'd be a far more credible double threat and it could be argued he deserved another chance to see what he could do spamming high P&R's.

Unfortunately, nobody is really going to look as good as they would if we had credible floor spacing.

Sexton is struggling because he is playing next to gomer pyle not Steph Curry. Sexton may have played well off ball next to a real pg but he was better on ball when there wasn't a true pg out there with him.
His shooting % is directly related to him being completly out of rhythm and that is reflective of teammates not him.
I mean sure it would be nice if he could keep working on his shooting off the dribble like last season but he apparently has to work on being a better catch and shoot off guard nd it aint happenning

That holds for the entire team ... the entire offense is off-kilter much of the time, yet the only players shooting worse than him from 3pt on the team is a rookie struggling with his shooting form (Porter Jr), Delly (who has a busted thumb), and Henson.

And while Sexton is playing more of a shooting guard role that doesn't mean the ball isn't in his hands (he leads the team in USG% for instance) but his AST% is tied for 6th with the two Kevin's. Porter Jr's willingness to pass has been a pleasant surprise - but he actually is a shooting guard.

About the only "non-meta" reason I can come up with not to hand all of Collin's minutes to Porter Jr (who actually has SG size) is that Porter has been playing primarily against backups, but it's not surprising to hear reporters starting to suggest it. Heck, if we want to exclude ALL outside reasons, the same can be said for Clarkson who's been a more efficient scorer and a more prolific passer than either young player.

JonFromVA wrote:

Stillwater wrote:

JonFromVA wrote:
Garland fits the Steph/Dame/Kyrie prototype, though, so he will get a long hard look before anyone gives up on him. Technically, neither Garland nor Sexton seems to be a very good fit as a "system pg" so it's not surprising both have been struggling with it.

But Sexton had carte blanche with the ball last year, and generated pretty crappy assist and assist% numbers. I thought Kyrie had issues running a team, but by the numbers he's like 2x the PG that Sexton was as a rook. The Cavs didn't miss that and what they've done so far have not been aimed at fixing it. Sexton played best off-the ball, so that's what they've settled on trying to do with him; but if they can't make it work - his next stop is 6th man or traded.

Garland, otoh, has been reigned in pretty tight and brought along much slower than Collin. Beilein can certainly try to turn him in to something he's never been, but if he's going to get back on the Steph-track there are certain things he has to change and that have to change around him. For one thing, he'd need to go Trae Young crazy and just shoot and shoot and shoot until he finds his shot. If/once he finds it, then he starts generating gravity like Steph and defenses have to treat him differently. They can just run dumb old high P&R's and they either double him creating open looks for teammates or he shoots or he drives in to an open paint. Dumb. Simple. Effective.

Well, give or take the teammate part and being able to space the floor.

Trae Young is still perhaps the worst defender in the league, but his shooting and passing are making up for that. That's kind of where Darius might be next year if we choose to play to his strengths. If Beilein manages to mold him in to his style of player? We'll probably see fewer points, lower assists, but hopefully higher efficiency due to more conservative shot selection and a higher number of assisted shots.

I'd love to believe Collin has some latent PG skills, so by all means stay on his bandwagon and keep bringing to our attention anything you feel demonstrates his development or potential in that area. Personally, I'm disappointed his 3pt shooting has fallen off. He's shot just 17 of 60 since the beginning of November whereas Garland is 31 of 85. If Collin had taken his shot to the next level and started knock down 3's off the dribble this season, then he'd be a far more credible double threat and it could be argued he deserved another chance to see what he could do spamming high P&R's.

Unfortunately, nobody is really going to look as good as they would if we had credible floor spacing.

Sexton is struggling because he is playing next to gomer pyle not Steph Curry. Sexton may have played well off ball next to a real pg but he was better on ball when there wasn't a true pg out there with him.
His shooting % is directly related to him being completly out of rhythm and that is reflective of teammates not him.
I mean sure it would be nice if he could keep working on his shooting off the dribble like last season but he apparently has to work on being a better catch and shoot off guard nd it aint happenning

That holds for the entire team ... the entire offense is off-kilter much of the time, yet the only players shooting worse than him from 3pt on the team is a rookie struggling with his shooting form (Porter Jr), Delly (who has a busted thumb), and Henson.

And while Sexton is playing more of a shooting guard role that doesn't mean the ball isn't in his hands (he leads the team in USG% for instance) but his AST% is tied for 6th with the two Kevin's. Porter Jr's willingness to pass has been a pleasant surprise - but he actually is a shooting guard.

About the only "non-meta" reason I can come up with not to hand all of Collin's minutes to Porter Jr (who actually has SG size) is that Porter has been playing primarily against backups, but it's not surprising to hear reporters starting to suggest it. Heck, if we want to exclude ALL outside reasons, the same can be said for Clarkson who's been a more efficient scorer and a more prolific passer than either young player.

the best thing for Sexton would be somewhere that actually understands they need to utilize his speed but with the way things are going right now the org seems more interested in believing Garland is the man of the future yet he has done nothing but disappoint and couldn't be farther from derserving pt than anyone.
To me Garland has been so bad I am embarrassed I said I was good with the pick when it happened even though I probably figured deep down it was a confused front office bailing on Sexton at the 1 way too soon esp after he showed a ton of growth all season . but I am not surprised as its the same as most people on here. If his % are up hes a 2 guard, if his passing isn't great it never will be , if his teammates are bigger they deserve the spot, yet he already proved he could shoot well off the dribble, and having the ball this year most of the time is secondary in the time clock not when he is at his best catching defenses sleeping. getting him the ball late and then just standing around waiting for him to do something. these takes are really frustrating to me. Sexton has been constantly improving yet somehow he gets zero respect from people on Cavs forums for some reason. Kyrie aint walking through the door and Garland is a chump imo

CLE doesn’t have anything worth Nurkic

JRoy wrote:CLE doesn’t have anything worth Nurkic

If you're going to show up on another team's board and comment, this isn't the way to go about it.

Stillwater wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:

Revenged25 wrote:
I think I would do the Detroit trade...

I wanted Sekou over Garland to begin with and running with Sexton/KPJ/Sekou/Love/TT would be pretty interesting line-up with much better size.

Sekou is in the G league. He's played 11 minutes total in the NBA. People who would make that trade should probably ask how good Garland would look in the G League.

Garland would not look better than Sekou at all imo… he has had plenty of opportunities with the ball and no one on him to capitalize on unearned pt , I mean he has failed on pretty much every level so far. He will get better once he gets stronger, but how much better? Is he DJ Augustine or is he better than that? I'm guessing hes DJ.
Garlands numbers might be a little better I guess in the G league than now because he wouldn't be trying to pass to anyone and would take more shots and they don't play any defense down there but Sekou has shown far more than half the lottery picked players already just on defense and in catch and shoot makes and is stuck behind Blake or he would be playing more.
I can't believe some of you have this notion Sexton can't be an effective passer esp in a Beilein system that is apparently wanting to use two combo guards instead of one lead guard and one true off guard which they have neither of yet had every intention of having neither of when they made these picks. Sexton has already started showing significant iq improvement since he was drafted , and already has shown significant improvement with his handles and gotten much stronger. His vision is markedly better when they run even though he still struggles in half court sets ...I would not be at all surprised if he takes the job of point more often from Garland before the season is out if they do move towards traditional assignments and sets where Garland will get his chance in the G league putting up similar numbers to what he is right now as an nba starter and have zero aka bust trade value afterwards where at least right now somebody might still gamble on him needing a more traditional system to do well

The bolded doesn't even constitute a leap of faith, it's borderline delusional. Sekou can't get on the court and it's not because the Pistons have great wings in front of him. Maybe someday he develops into an NBA player, but he's not one right now. Garland at least looks like a credible backup at the moment. You really like Sexton and you want Garland gone because you're smart enough to realize that a Sexton/Garland back court isn't in the cards long term.

jbk1234 wrote:

JRoy wrote:CLE doesn’t have anything worth Nurkic

If you're going to show up on another team's board and comment, this isn't the way to go about it.

Maybe re-phrasing would help;

There is no trade including Nurk that makes sense for both CLE and POR.

Better?