Game 50: Cleveland Cavaliers (13-36) vs Golden State Warriors (10-39) - 8:00 PM ET

ducler · Post #1 » by **ducler** » Sat Feb 1, 2020 7:53 pm

Post #2 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Feb 2, 2020 7:08 am

That was legitimately embarrassing. I don't know how you give up 10 three pointers in a quarter. Beilein basically said in the post game press conference that the way the roster is presently constructed isn't going to work. He's not wrong. We can forget about starting Sexton and Garland. One of them needs to go to the bench. Both Garland and KPJ need to put some real work in on the defensive side of the ball this summer. Garland needs to beef up a little. It's time to move on from TT. I've had enough of a starting center who offers such limited rim protection.

gflem · Post #3 » by **gflem** » Sun Feb 2, 2020 4:53 pm

jbk1234 wrote:That was legitimately embarrassing. I don't know how you give up 10 three pointers in a quarter. Beilein basically said in the post game press conference that the way the roster is presently constructed isn't going to work. He's not wrong. We can forget about starting Sexton and Garland. One of them needs to go to the bench. Both Garland and KPJ need to put some real work in on the defensive side of the ball this summer. Garland needs to beef up a little. It's time to move on from TT. I've had enough of a starting center who offers such limited rim protection.

Teams with length and athleticism just destroy the Cavs. I agree the experiment of the mini backcourt should be over, but they are in tank mode so we will just have to endure games like this for the remainder of the season unless something surprising happens before next Thursday's deadline.

JonFromVA · Post #4 » by **JonFromVA** » Sun Feb 2, 2020 6:51 pm

Great loss for the tank ... not fun to watch, but there is that.

Revenged25 · Post #5 » by **Revenged25** » Sun Feb 2, 2020 7:46 pm

I didn't get to see the game, but did Sexton play as well as the box score would suggest? I saw at half-time his numbers were pretty damn amazing, though they came back down to earth by the end, it still looked like a great overall showing for him.

Post #6 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Feb 3, 2020 7:23 am

Revenged25 wrote:I didn't get to see the game, but did Sexton play as well as the box score would suggest? I saw at half-time his numbers were pretty damn amazing, though they came back down to earth by the end, it still looked like a great overall showing for him.

If you ignore the stats of the guy who he was supposed to guard, yeah. When Sexton tries hard on defense and tries to do less on defense, the team does better.

But setting him aside, it's absurd that we gave up that money points and no one got into foul trouble. I mean where is the professional pride? Just how soft is this team?

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JonFromVA · Post #7 » by **JonFromVA** » Mon Feb 3, 2020 4:32 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Revenged25 wrote:I didn't get to see the game, but did Sexton play as well as the box score would suggest? I saw at half-time his numbers were pretty damn amazing, though they came back down to earth by the end, it still looked like a great overall showing for him.
If you ignore the stats of the guy who he was supposed to guard, yeah. When Sexton tries hard on defense and tries to do less on defense, the team does better.

But setting him aside, it's absurd that we gave up that money points and no one got into foul trouble. I mean where is the professional pride? Just how soft is this team?

Looks like Love, Thompson, Nance, and Henson committed a grand total of 2 of the team's 15 fouls. :lol:

It's hard to foul when you're doing your best to stay out of the way.

Post #8 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Feb 3, 2020 4:38 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Revenged25 wrote:I didn't get to see the game, but did Sexton play as well as the box score would suggest? I saw at half-time his numbers were pretty damn amazing, though they came back down to earth by the end, it still looked like a great overall showing for him.
If you ignore the stats of the guy who he was supposed to guard, yeah. When Sexton tries hard on defense and tries to do less on defense, the team does better.

But setting him aside, it's absurd that we gave up that money points and no one got into foul trouble. I mean where is the professional pride? Just how soft is this team?

Looks like Love, Thompson, Nance, and Henson committed a grand total of 2 of the team's 15 fouls.

It's hard to foul when you're doing your best to stay out of the way.

GS made 10 3 pointers in the third so it's not just the big guys who should've had more fouls.

JonFromVA · Post #9 » by **JonFromVA** » Mon Feb 3, 2020 4:59 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:If you ignore the stats of the guy who he was supposed to guard, yeah. When Sexton tries hard on defense and tries to do less on defense, the team does better.

But setting him aside, it's absurd that we gave up that money points and no one got into foul trouble. I mean where is the professional pride? Just how soft is this team?

Looks like Love, Thompson, Nance, and Henson committed a grand total of 2 of the team's 15 fouls.

It's hard to foul when you're doing your best to stay out of the way.

GS made 10 3 pointers in the third so it's not just the big guys who should've had more fouls.

We stink at defense. Commiting some hard fouls isn't going to do anything besides put a smile on Austin's face.

It's almost like JB Bickerstaff was put in place by the FO to help us tank this season.

Not having to leave the game due to foul trouble is about the only improvement we've seen on D this season.

Post #10 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Feb 3, 2020 5:06 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
Looks like Love, Thompson, Nance, and Henson committed a grand total of 2 of the team's 15 fouls.

It's hard to foul when you're doing your best to stay out of the way.

GS made 10 3 pointers in the third so it's not just the big guys who should've had more fouls.

We stink at defense. Commiting some hard fouls isn't going to do anything besides put a smile on Austin's face.

It's almost like JB Bickerstaff was put in place by the FO to help us tank this season.

Not having to leave the game due to foul trouble is about the only improvement we've seen on D this season.

If I'm getting run out of the gym by the worst team in the league, having to leave the game due to foul trouble is a bonus tbh. Also, the number of Cavs fans who convinced themselves that our assistant coach from last year was the problem on defense seems pretty hilarious right now.

Revenged25 · Post #11 » by **Revenged25** » Mon Feb 3, 2020 5:47 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Revenged25 wrote:I didn't get to see the game, but did Sexton play as well as the box score would suggest? I saw at half-time his numbers were pretty damn amazing, though they came back down to earth by the end, it still looked like a great overall showing for him.
If you ignore the stats of the guy who he was supposed to guard, yeah. When Sexton tries hard on defense and tries to do less on defense, the team does better.

But setting him aside, it's absurd that we gave up that money points and no one got into foul trouble. I mean where is the professional pride? Just how soft is this team?

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I mean that's kind of why I asked the question. Just looking at his stats it looked like he had a good game scoring as well as getting some assists. But boxscores only tell one part of the story.

JonFromVA · Post #12 » by **JonFromVA** » Mon Feb 3, 2020 8:14 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
GS made 10 3 pointers in the third so it's not just the big guys who should've had more fouls.

We stink at defense. Commiting some hard fouls isn't going to do anything besides put a smile on Austin's face.

It's almost like JB Bickerstaff was put in place by the FO to help us tank this season.

Not having to leave the game due to foul trouble is about the only improvement we've seen on D this season.

If I'm getting run out of the gym by the worst team in the league, having to leave the game due to foul trouble is a bonus tbh. Also, the number of Cavs fans who convinced themselves that our assistant coach from last year was the problem on defense seems pretty hilarious right now.

Oh, no.

We're bad on D but Longabardi is in a whole other league of bad. Not only has pushed the Wizards ahead of us for worst defense in the league, he even has them making a run to replace us as the worst defense of all-time.

We're actually 2.1 pp100 better on defense than last year, which is almost impressive given we took one of the worst defensive guards in the league from last year and then paired him with one of the worst defensive guards from this year.

They do seem like a lost cause at this point, though, which is never good to see. Whatever defense we've got seems to come from the second unit where for whatever reason we will play around with units that can offer some defensive attributes.

Anyway, the Warriors may suck, but they do still run their system. We're not disciplined enough to deal with a team that's capable of much more than ISO'ing and hoisting.