Game 3 : Philadelphia 76ers (2-0) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-0) - 7:30 PM
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:16 pm
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Cedi is on a declining contract that ends as a number lower than the current MLE. I'm not sure what the Cavs could get for him that wouldn't result in us losing that trade.afarmenian wrote:When Drummond stays within what he is good at he can be a heck of player. I just hope it's getting through to him that he has no business trying t o score off postups outside the paint. He has no touch outside of 5 feet but his passing is better than expected.
Love just seems like addition by subtraction at this point. Maybe he carves out a bench role. Nance just seems like the better player and meshes well with the starters.
Not too much to complain about this game though. The Sixers arent going anywhere with or without Embid but a 20 point win is impressive against any team especially on back to back.
Cedi playing like this is the kind of player that every contending team can use. If they arent in it at the trade deadline that might be a tough decision especially with Okra Porter Jr and Wilder waiting in the wings.
jbk1234 wrote:I do feel like we're going to steal some back to back games this year due to our youth.
jbk1234 wrote:Cedi is on a declining contract that ends as a number lower than the current MLE. I'm not sure what the Cavs could get for him that wouldn't result in us losing that trade.afarmenian wrote:When Drummond stays within what he is good at he can be a heck of player. I just hope it's getting through to him that he has no business trying t o score off postups outside the paint. He has no touch outside of 5 feet but his passing is better than expected.
Love just seems like addition by subtraction at this point. Maybe he carves out a bench role. Nance just seems like the better player and meshes well with the starters.
Not too much to complain about this game though. The Sixers arent going anywhere with or without Embid but a 20 point win is impressive against any team especially on back to back.
Cedi playing like this is the kind of player that every contending team can use. If they arent in it at the trade deadline that might be a tough decision especially with Okra Porter Jr and Wilder waiting in the wings.
In terms of Love, we're beating bad teams right now, and the Sixers without Embiid, on the second night of a back to back, are just that.
When we play Giannis, Siakam, Gordon, AD, etc. and those guys aren't staying out on the perimeter, it's going to be a lot harder to score. Nance is one of my favorite players, but teams will live with him getting open looks.
When teams start getting second or third shots because we're struggling to get defensive rebounds, it's going to be hard to get stops.
There were two players on the roster who were net positive according to RPM last season. Love was one of them. Now based on a three game sample size, fans are taking about addition by subtraction. This is after he had the best plus/minus on the team against the Pistons.
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jbk1234 wrote:Cedi is on a declining contract that ends as a number lower than the current MLE. I'm not sure what the Cavs could get for him that wouldn't result in us losing that trade.afarmenian wrote:When Drummond stays within what he is good at he can be a heck of player. I just hope it's getting through to him that he has no business trying t o score off postups outside the paint. He has no touch outside of 5 feet but his passing is better than expected.
Love just seems like addition by subtraction at this point. Maybe he carves out a bench role. Nance just seems like the better player and meshes well with the starters.
Not too much to complain about this game though. The Sixers arent going anywhere with or without Embid but a 20 point win is impressive against any team especially on back to back.
Cedi playing like this is the kind of player that every contending team can use. If they arent in it at the trade deadline that might be a tough decision especially with Okra Porter Jr and Wilder waiting in the wings.
In terms of Love, we're beating bad teams right now, and the Sixers without Embiid, on the second night of a back to back, are just that.
When we play Giannis, Siakam, Gordon, AD, etc. and those guys aren't staying out on the perimeter, it's going to be a lot harder to score. Nance is one of my favorite players, but teams will live with him getting open looks.
When teams start getting second or third shots because we're struggling to get defensive rebounds, it's going to be hard to get stops.
There were two players on the roster who were net positive according to RPM last season. Love was one of them. Now based on a three game sample size, fans are taking about addition by subtraction. This is after he had the best plus/minus on the team against the Pistons.
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Let me put it this way, everyone knows what Love's strengths and weaknesses are. The decision to play to a player's strength or weakness is a choice. Obviously, asking Love to be a good defender who just happens to space the floor on a limited number of shots/touches isn't playing to his strengths.afarmenian wrote:jbk1234 wrote:Cedi is on a declining contract that ends as a number lower than the current MLE. I'm not sure what the Cavs could get for him that wouldn't result in us losing that trade.afarmenian wrote:When Drummond stays within what he is good at he can be a heck of player. I just hope it's getting through to him that he has no business trying t o score off postups outside the paint. He has no touch outside of 5 feet but his passing is better than expected.
Love just seems like addition by subtraction at this point. Maybe he carves out a bench role. Nance just seems like the better player and meshes well with the starters.
Not too much to complain about this game though. The Sixers arent going anywhere with or without Embid but a 20 point win is impressive against any team especially on back to back.
Cedi playing like this is the kind of player that every contending team can use. If they arent in it at the trade deadline that might be a tough decision especially with Okra Porter Jr and Wilder waiting in the wings.
In terms of Love, we're beating bad teams right now, and the Sixers without Embiid, on the second night of a back to back, are just that.
When we play Giannis, Siakam, Gordon, AD, etc. and those guys aren't staying out on the perimeter, it's going to be a lot harder to score. Nance is one of my favorite players, but teams will live with him getting open looks.
When teams start getting second or third shots because we're struggling to get defensive rebounds, it's going to be hard to get stops.
There were two players on the roster who were net positive according to RPM last season. Love was one of them. Now based on a three game sample size, fans are taking about addition by subtraction. This is after he had the best plus/minus on the team against the Pistons.
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What is exactly impressive about having the best analytical statistics for 50 games on a terrible team? He is still oft injured, no defense, declining every month and an has an albatross of a contract. I don't even understand what you are trying to argue? Is it that Love is being paid like a superstar to be average at best for half a year and have no trade value.
Dude has played a game and a half. The Cavs have played all of three games. Do you want a calf strain to turn into something more serious?LivingLegend wrote:jbk1234 wrote:Cedi is on a declining contract that ends as a number lower than the current MLE. I'm not sure what the Cavs could get for him that wouldn't result in us losing that trade.afarmenian wrote:When Drummond stays within what he is good at he can be a heck of player. I just hope it's getting through to him that he has no business trying t o score off postups outside the paint. He has no touch outside of 5 feet but his passing is better than expected.
Love just seems like addition by subtraction at this point. Maybe he carves out a bench role. Nance just seems like the better player and meshes well with the starters.
Not too much to complain about this game though. The Sixers arent going anywhere with or without Embid but a 20 point win is impressive against any team especially on back to back.
Cedi playing like this is the kind of player that every contending team can use. If they arent in it at the trade deadline that might be a tough decision especially with Okra Porter Jr and Wilder waiting in the wings.
In terms of Love, we're beating bad teams right now, and the Sixers without Embiid, on the second night of a back to back, are just that.
When we play Giannis, Siakam, Gordon, AD, etc. and those guys aren't staying out on the perimeter, it's going to be a lot harder to score. Nance is one of my favorite players, but teams will live with him getting open looks.
When teams start getting second or third shots because we're struggling to get defensive rebounds, it's going to be hard to get stops.
There were two players on the roster who were net positive according to RPM last season. Love was one of them. Now based on a three game sample size, fans are taking about addition by subtraction. This is after he had the best plus/minus on the team against the Pistons.
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Who is getting defensive rebounds over Drummond/Love/McGee/Nance all of who would average 10+ rebounds per game given starters mins. If anything thats the Cavs strength that other teams should be worried about not getting those second and third chance looks against us
I dont think he is addition by subtraction--but if all he is going to do is stand on the 3pt line and take 7-10 threes per game, hes going to need to start making them. I understand hes half injured and all of that but he needs to get his butt out there and play.
jbk1234 wrote:Dude has played a game and a half. The Cavs have played all of three games. Do you want a calf strain to turn into something more serious?LivingLegend wrote:jbk1234 wrote:Cedi is on a declining contract that ends as a number lower than the current MLE. I'm not sure what the Cavs could get for him that wouldn't result in us losing that trade.
In terms of Love, we're beating bad teams right now, and the Sixers without Embiid, on the second night of a back to back, are just that.
When we play Giannis, Siakam, Gordon, AD, etc. and those guys aren't staying out on the perimeter, it's going to be a lot harder to score. Nance is one of my favorite players, but teams will live with him getting open looks.
When teams start getting second or third shots because we're struggling to get defensive rebounds, it's going to be hard to get stops.
There were two players on the roster who were net positive according to RPM last season. Love was one of them. Now based on a three game sample size, fans are taking about addition by subtraction. This is after he had the best plus/minus on the team against the Pistons.
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Who is getting defensive rebounds over Drummond/Love/McGee/Nance all of who would average 10+ rebounds per game given starters mins. If anything thats the Cavs strength that other teams should be worried about not getting those second and third chance looks against us
I dont think he is addition by subtraction--but if all he is going to do is stand on the 3pt line and take 7-10 threes per game, hes going to need to start making them. I understand hes half injured and all of that but he needs to get his butt out there and play.
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LivingLegend wrote:jbk1234 wrote:Dude has played a game and a half. The Cavs have played all of three games. Do you want a calf strain to turn into something more serious?LivingLegend wrote:
Who is getting defensive rebounds over Drummond/Love/McGee/Nance all of who would average 10+ rebounds per game given starters mins. If anything thats the Cavs strength that other teams should be worried about not getting those second and third chance looks against us
I dont think he is addition by subtraction--but if all he is going to do is stand on the 3pt line and take 7-10 threes per game, hes going to need to start making them. I understand hes half injured and all of that but he needs to get his butt out there and play.
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No but it always seems like hes banged up with something. At some point hes going to have to fight through some of these things. How do you get injured in a single quarter in the first preseason game after not playing basketball for 8 months.
Its just frustrating that he is supposed to be the guy on this team and he cant seem to make it more than 2 or 3 weeks without something happening. I would like to see him fight through some of the smaller stuff.
JonFromVA wrote:LivingLegend wrote:jbk1234 wrote:Dude has played a game and a half. The Cavs have played all of three games. Do you want a calf strain to turn into something more serious?
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No but it always seems like hes banged up with something. At some point hes going to have to fight through some of these things. How do you get injured in a single quarter in the first preseason game after not playing basketball for 8 months.
Its just frustrating that he is supposed to be the guy on this team and he cant seem to make it more than 2 or 3 weeks without something happening. I would like to see him fight through some of the smaller stuff.
Plus Kevin has been nursing a bad back since before we got him. Kevin can be a positive player, but it's tricky and frankly kind of tiring putting up with the injuries, defensive lapses, and effort problems along the way. Playing him with a rim protector is part of what we've needed to do, though. So... who knows, maybe he can get right, get in shape, and help the team and maybe, just maybe, convince a team to give something up for him.
LivingLegend wrote:JonFromVA wrote:LivingLegend wrote:
No but it always seems like hes banged up with something. At some point hes going to have to fight through some of these things. How do you get injured in a single quarter in the first preseason game after not playing basketball for 8 months.
Its just frustrating that he is supposed to be the guy on this team and he cant seem to make it more than 2 or 3 weeks without something happening. I would like to see him fight through some of the smaller stuff.
Plus Kevin has been nursing a bad back since before we got him. Kevin can be a positive player, but it's tricky and frankly kind of tiring putting up with the injuries, defensive lapses, and effort problems along the way. Playing him with a rim protector is part of what we've needed to do, though. So... who knows, maybe he can get right, get in shape, and help the team and maybe, just maybe, convince a team to give something up for him.
My thing is the Cavs havent played basketball for 3/4 of a calander year. How does every single player on the roster not come into this season fully healthy and ready to go. We have had more rest than anybody in the league
Stillwater wrote:LivingLegend wrote:JonFromVA wrote:
Plus Kevin has been nursing a bad back since before we got him. Kevin can be a positive player, but it's tricky and frankly kind of tiring putting up with the injuries, defensive lapses, and effort problems along the way. Playing him with a rim protector is part of what we've needed to do, though. So... who knows, maybe he can get right, get in shape, and help the team and maybe, just maybe, convince a team to give something up for him.
My thing is the Cavs havent played basketball for 3/4 of a calander year. How does every single player on the roster not come into this season fully healthy and ready to go. We have had more rest than anybody in the league
its just very difficult to predict whos foot is under yours when you are looking up... KLove just happens to have a lot of bad luck I'd say. He does look a bit older lol but he isnt out of game shape enough so that I would think that is what caused a calf strain.
My guess is he pulled himself out because he kept pushing JB to play him and see how he held up, it didnt work out
LivingLegend wrote:Stillwater wrote:LivingLegend wrote:
My thing is the Cavs havent played basketball for 3/4 of a calander year. How does every single player on the roster not come into this season fully healthy and ready to go. We have had more rest than anybody in the league
its just very difficult to predict whos foot is under yours when you are looking up... KLove just happens to have a lot of bad luck I'd say. He does look a bit older lol but he isnt out of game shape enough so that I would think that is what caused a calf strain.
My guess is he pulled himself out because he kept pushing JB to play him and see how he held up, it didnt work out
That might be it but I wont say its overly detrimental. Nance has really really looked good this year. With him shooting 3s at the rate he is, hes almost became a more impactful player than Love is already because of his athleticism and defense that Love doesnt have.
I wish the best for Love, I just also hope that when he does get healthy they look at reducing his mins to get Nance more floortime. It would be best for the team and it would also allow Love to play less mins and hopefully stay in better health.
I think I would put a cap on Loves mins at 30