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Is it the Rockets or the Pacers?

It's the Rockets. Hence the 9:00 start time.

jbk1234 wrote:It's the Rockets. Hence the 9:00 start time.

I know just joking cuz of the title.

The Cavs desperately need a backup PG.

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John Wall is really using that off arm to create separation.

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Thankfully Sexton came to play tonight.

This is a pretty ugly game to watch.

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And Windler finally gets an open look.

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Good W. Ugly game though. They were rewarding a lot of soft fouls going to the line. Must be the water in Houston.

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If DG had dropped 39 and 8 on 60% shooting this board would have blown up but Sexton does it and its an ugly game lol.

Stillwater wrote:If DG had dropped 39 and 8 on 60% shooting this board would have blown up but Sexton does it and its an ugly game lol.

Well, Sexton had 20 FGAs on the books and went to the line 15 times on top of that (add 6 TOs in terms of usage). John Wall had 24 FGAs and went to the line 12 times on top of that (add 3 TOs in terms of usage). It was 40 minutes of those two driving to the rim and hoping to get a soft foul call. Now it worked, and with Wood out the Rockets have no answer in terms of rim protection, so good on Sexton. But from a fan perspective, it's ugly basketball, and with a different officiating crew, that stat line is going to look very different.

jbk1234 wrote:

Stillwater wrote:If DG had dropped 39 and 8 on 60% shooting this board would have blown up but Sexton does it and its an ugly game lol.

Well, Sexton had 20 FGAs on the books and went to the line 15 times on top of that (add 6 TOs in terms of usage). John Wall had 24 FGAs and went to the line 12 times on top of that (add 3 TOs in terms of usage). It was 40 minutes of those two driving to the rim and hoping to get a soft foul call. Now it worked, and with Wood out the Rockets have no answer in terms of rim protection, so good on Sexton. But from a fan perspective, it's ugly basketball, and with a different officiating crew, that stat line is going to look very different.

I'm sure it won't surprise Stillwater, but I thought the game was pretty ugly too; even though the Cavs had a lead through most of it. It didn't help that it started late.

jbk1234 wrote:

Stillwater wrote:If DG had dropped 39 and 8 on 60% shooting this board would have blown up but Sexton does it and its an ugly game lol.

Well, Sexton had 20 FGAs on the books and went to the line 15 times on top of that (add 6 TOs in terms of usage). John Wall had 24 FGAs and went to the line 12 times on top of that (add 3 TOs in terms of usage). It was 40 minutes of those two driving to the rim and hoping to get a soft foul call. Now it worked, and with Wood out the Rockets have no answer in terms of rim protection, so good on Sexton. But from a fan perspective, it's ugly basketball, and with a different officiating crew, that stat line is going to look very different.

If you're going to pick apart Sexton, what do you have to say about Garland who was 5/13 went to the line 4 times and had 5 TOs in 12 less minutes of play. If Sexton wasn't doing what he was doing no one else would've and we would've been blown out.

JonFromVA wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:

Stillwater wrote:If DG had dropped 39 and 8 on 60% shooting this board would have blown up but Sexton does it and its an ugly game lol.

Well, Sexton had 20 FGAs on the books and went to the line 15 times on top of that (add 6 TOs in terms of usage). John Wall had 24 FGAs and went to the line 12 times on top of that (add 3 TOs in terms of usage). It was 40 minutes of those two driving to the rim and hoping to get a soft foul call. Now it worked, and with Wood out the Rockets have no answer in terms of rim protection, so good on Sexton. But from a fan perspective, it's ugly basketball, and with a different officiating crew, that stat line is going to look very different.

I'm sure it won't surprise Stillwater, but I thought the game was pretty ugly too; even though the Cavs had a lead through most of it. It didn't help that it started late.

It was just so obvious that Wall was hoping to stat pad so he can convince a team to trade for him and get a ticket out of Houston. He normally doesn't even play in back-to-back games but I'm sure he realized he could get to his spots with the Cavs backcourt defending him. Then Allen blocked a couple and dude was literally crying to refs, after he made shots, when there was no contact. At one point in the first quarter, one of his teammates started jawing at the officials after Sexton got a soft call and Wall went over to say something to him. I have a pretty good idea of what it was.

Revenged25 wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:

Stillwater wrote:If DG had dropped 39 and 8 on 60% shooting this board would have blown up but Sexton does it and its an ugly game lol.

Well, Sexton had 20 FGAs on the books and went to the line 15 times on top of that (add 6 TOs in terms of usage). John Wall had 24 FGAs and went to the line 12 times on top of that (add 3 TOs in terms of usage). It was 40 minutes of those two driving to the rim and hoping to get a soft foul call. Now it worked, and with Wood out the Rockets have no answer in terms of rim protection, so good on Sexton. But from a fan perspective, it's ugly basketball, and with a different officiating crew, that stat line is going to look very different.

If you're going to pick apart Sexton, what do you have to say about Garland who was 5/13 went to the line 4 times and had 5 TOs in 12 less minutes of play. If Sexton wasn't doing what he was doing no one else would've and we would've been blown out.

Yep...DG was out of Sextons way for the most part in this one and that was the real reason he was successful. reality bites

Revenged25 wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:

Stillwater wrote:If DG had dropped 39 and 8 on 60% shooting this board would have blown up but Sexton does it and its an ugly game lol.

Well, Sexton had 20 FGAs on the books and went to the line 15 times on top of that (add 6 TOs in terms of usage). John Wall had 24 FGAs and went to the line 12 times on top of that (add 3 TOs in terms of usage). It was 40 minutes of those two driving to the rim and hoping to get a soft foul call. Now it worked, and with Wood out the Rockets have no answer in terms of rim protection, so good on Sexton. But from a fan perspective, it's ugly basketball, and with a different officiating crew, that stat line is going to look very different.

If you're going to pick apart Sexton, what do you have to say about Garland who was 5/13 went to the line 4 times and had 5 TOs in 12 less minutes of play. If Sexton wasn't doing what he was doing no one else would've and we would've been blown out.

I mean the two are related. You could predict what kind of game it was going to be the first quarter. Wall and Sexton were going to go at each other all game long.

They didn't have Wood. We had Allen. You could see how that battle was going to end shortly after it began. It was fine for that game. It's the next game you have to worry about when it's Sabonis and Turner at the rim and those soft calls aren't coming.

jbk1234 wrote:

Revenged25 wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:
Well, Sexton had 20 FGAs on the books and went to the line 15 times on top of that (add 6 TOs in terms of usage). John Wall had 24 FGAs and went to the line 12 times on top of that (add 3 TOs in terms of usage). It was 40 minutes of those two driving to the rim and hoping to get a soft foul call. Now it worked, and with Wood out the Rockets have no answer in terms of rim protection, so good on Sexton. But from a fan perspective, it's ugly basketball, and with a different officiating crew, that stat line is going to look very different.

If you're going to pick apart Sexton, what do you have to say about Garland who was 5/13 went to the line 4 times and had 5 TOs in 12 less minutes of play. If Sexton wasn't doing what he was doing no one else would've and we would've been blown out.

I mean the two are related. You could predict what kind of game it was going to be the first quarter. Wall and Sexton were going to go at each other all game long.

They didn't have Wood. We had Allen. You could see how that battle was going to end shortly after it began. It was fine for that game. It's the next game you have to worry about when it's Sabonis and Turner at the rim and those soft calls aren't coming.

The game we'll be referring to as the Dean Wade break out game?

Where's the bandwagon emoji?

JonFromVA wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:

Revenged25 wrote:
If you're going to pick apart Sexton, what do you have to say about Garland who was 5/13 went to the line 4 times and had 5 TOs in 12 less minutes of play. If Sexton wasn't doing what he was doing no one else would've and we would've been blown out.

I mean the two are related. You could predict what kind of game it was going to be the first quarter. Wall and Sexton were going to go at each other all game long.

They didn't have Wood. We had Allen. You could see how that battle was going to end shortly after it began. It was fine for that game. It's the next game you have to worry about when it's Sabonis and Turner at the rim and those soft calls aren't coming.

The game we'll be referring to as the Dean Wade break out game?

Where's the bandwagon emoji?

I suspect that like Dotson, the clock is about to strike midnight with Wade. Maybe he can drag Sabonis out of the paint on offense and guard Turner some, but I think Wade is almost exclusively a small ball 4.

jbk1234 wrote:

JonFromVA wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:
I mean the two are related. You could predict what kind of game it was going to be the first quarter. Wall and Sexton were going to go at each other all game long.

They didn't have Wood. We had Allen. You could see how that battle was going to end shortly after it began. It was fine for that game. It's the next game you have to worry about when it's Sabonis and Turner at the rim and those soft calls aren't coming.

The game we'll be referring to as the Dean Wade break out game?

Where's the bandwagon emoji?

I suspect that like Dotson, the clock is about to strike midnight with Wade. Maybe he can drag Sabonis out of the paint on offense and guard Turner some, but I think Wade is almost exclusively a small ball 4.

Well, considering Drummond and Nance couldn't stop Sabonis from scoring, you might just be setting the bar a little high. Wade at least will get his hands up and contest (if he hasn't been thumped to the floor); but if he's going to affect the game it's presumably going to happen via knocking down 3's and/or spacing the floor.