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I had a similar thought.Stillwater wrote:Cavs better be scouting Juzang incase they fall outside the chalk top 6
He didn't exactly call bank, but it won't matter.Stillwater wrote:Suggs made up for his meh game
what a hell of a game from start to finish though crazy end
Harper4Ferry? wrote:I don't watch much college, but Mitchell should be breaking into the top 5. He is kind of old I suppose, but that game is going to play.
JonFromVA wrote:Harper4Ferry? wrote:I don't watch much college, but Mitchell should be breaking into the top 5. He is kind of old I suppose, but that game is going to play.
Admittedly I speed watched the game, but I was surprised Mitchell and Butler finished just 6-15 and 6-14, and Suggs was 8-15. They were sure getting it done when Baylor was building up their lead, though.
Upperclassmen always have an advantage in the tourney, and while Mitchell is listed as a Junior, he actually sat out a year to transfer and will be 23 by the time the next NBA season rolls around. In other words, it's going to be hard for him to break in to the top of the lottery unless some team falls in love with him.
For instance, when comparing him to our draft picks ... Mitchell was averaging just 4 & 2 as a freshman and shot just 28.8% on his 3pters. So, while he's shown the ability to improve his game (which is very important) his upside/ceiling will be questioned.
Stillwater wrote:JonFromVA wrote:Harper4Ferry? wrote:I don't watch much college, but Mitchell should be breaking into the top 5. He is kind of old I suppose, but that game is going to play.
Admittedly I speed watched the game, but I was surprised Mitchell and Butler finished just 6-15 and 6-14, and Suggs was 8-15. They were sure getting it done when Baylor was building up their lead, though.
Upperclassmen always have an advantage in the tourney, and while Mitchell is listed as a Junior, he actually sat out a year to transfer and will be 23 by the time the next NBA season rolls around. In other words, it's going to be hard for him to break in to the top of the lottery unless some team falls in love with him.
For instance, when comparing him to our draft picks ... Mitchell was averaging just 4 & 2 as a freshman and shot just 28.8% on his 3pters. So, while he's shown the ability to improve his game (which is very important) his upside/ceiling will be questioned.
That unfortunately is probably the same logic that was used by the Cavs when they drafted DIon and left Lillard on the board.
You just cannot do that after the elite upside prospects are gone and there rarely is more than 2 or 3 in any draft. If a prospect is a proven 2 way player that dominates at the collegiate level the floor that high automatically commands attn.
Ideally most orgs in early rebuilds pass on these types hoping to move up and get a deal later given the age as they probably should for most but it doesn't change the fact their investment in some other less skilled kid that might some day be that good is not a sure thing.
Mitchell has elite explosiveness and arguably the fastest first step of anyone and those 2 things combined with his advanced iq and stout defense (Naismith DPOY) is as sure of a thing as you can get in that 7-10 range which is exactly where he should be taken.
JonFromVA wrote:Stillwater wrote:JonFromVA wrote:
Admittedly I speed watched the game, but I was surprised Mitchell and Butler finished just 6-15 and 6-14, and Suggs was 8-15. They were sure getting it done when Baylor was building up their lead, though.
Upperclassmen always have an advantage in the tourney, and while Mitchell is listed as a Junior, he actually sat out a year to transfer and will be 23 by the time the next NBA season rolls around. In other words, it's going to be hard for him to break in to the top of the lottery unless some team falls in love with him.
For instance, when comparing him to our draft picks ... Mitchell was averaging just 4 & 2 as a freshman and shot just 28.8% on his 3pters. So, while he's shown the ability to improve his game (which is very important) his upside/ceiling will be questioned.
That unfortunately is probably the same logic that was used by the Cavs when they drafted DIon and left Lillard on the board.
You just cannot do that after the elite upside prospects are gone and there rarely is more than 2 or 3 in any draft. If a prospect is a proven 2 way player that dominates at the collegiate level the floor that high automatically commands attn.
Ideally most orgs in early rebuilds pass on these types hoping to move up and get a deal later given the age as they probably should for most but it doesn't change the fact their investment in some other less skilled kid that might some day be that good is not a sure thing.
Mitchell has elite explosiveness and arguably the fastest first step of anyone and those 2 things combined with his advanced iq and stout defense (Naismith DPOY) is as sure of a thing as you can get in that 7-10 range which is exactly where he should be taken.
Lillard was a 19.9ppg scorer as as a Sophomore and "fell" to 6th because he was doing it for Weber State.
Level of competition is too important to ignore.
Stillwater wrote:JonFromVA wrote:Stillwater wrote:That unfortunately is probably the same logic that was used by the Cavs when they drafted DIon and left Lillard on the board.
You just cannot do that after the elite upside prospects are gone and there rarely is more than 2 or 3 in any draft. If a prospect is a proven 2 way player that dominates at the collegiate level the floor that high automatically commands attn.
Ideally most orgs in early rebuilds pass on these types hoping to move up and get a deal later given the age as they probably should for most but it doesn't change the fact their investment in some other less skilled kid that might some day be that good is not a sure thing.
Mitchell has elite explosiveness and arguably the fastest first step of anyone and those 2 things combined with his advanced iq and stout defense (Naismith DPOY) is as sure of a thing as you can get in that 7-10 range which is exactly where he should be taken.
Lillard was a 19.9ppg scorer as as a Sophomore and "fell" to 6th because he was doing it for Weber State.
Level of competition is too important to ignore.
Oh sure that must have been the only reason since he turned 22 the month after he was drafted smh hence the age thing not being able to
stop teams like Portland from ignoring prospects like Drummond and Barnes were there for the taking but taking him anyway.
but yeah Mitchell will be 23 when he starts playing pro basketball so he should be in that 7-10 range fairly easy based on level of interest in a win now player for most teams who would be in that range.