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Game 44 : Cleveland Cavaliers (16-27) @ Chicago Bulls (19-23) - 8:00PM

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Game 44 : Cleveland Cavaliers (16-27) @ Chicago Bulls (19-23) - 8:00PM 

Post#1 » by ducler » Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:59 pm

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Re: Game 44 : Cleveland Cavaliers (16-27) @ Chicago Bulls (19-23) - 8:00PM 

Post#2 » by JonFromVA » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:42 pm

The most interesting thing about this game may be who isn't playing.

Winning on the road has been tough this season ... but this should be a winnable game.
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Post#3 » by Stillwater » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:55 pm

who you think is not playing besides those we already knew were potential trade chips out for different reasons etc like Dre Prince Love etc?
I guess maybe it will be an indicator that something is happening
I'd still bet on Cedi getting sent out pretty easily esp if Prince isnt and obviously it's leaning towards Javale not Dre getting flipped for a pick.
I still would like to think there is something cooking with Dre but it's probably a pipe dream now. But maybe Koby pulls a rabbit out of his arse possibly even someone nobody expects like Love or Garland even though the odds are against it.
If Nance is not playing they better get a fn lottery pick in 21 or 22
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Post#5 » by Stillwater » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:15 pm

JonFromVA wrote:Well... try to control your blood pressure, could be nothing ...

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/cavaliers-collin-sexton-out-with-sore-hamstring/

anything less than a high lottery pick or a ridiculously high upside player and Sexton being traded would kill my
ability to believe in this front office who are already on thin ice with me over the KPJ thing...
But Sexton probably has the most trade value outside of Allen and Nance so nothing would surprise me in a season where
Altman is starting to be out under alot of pressure although likely unwarranted at this stage, everyone knows how
owners and investors are worried about the bottom line esp in a pandemic
{ personally think it is a showcase of Darius on the eve of the deadline though lol}
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Post#6 » by Harper4Ferry? » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:20 pm

I'm fine with trading Sexton if it's for a lot. An obvious overpay.
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Re: Game 44 : Cleveland Cavaliers (16-27) @ Chicago Bulls (19-23) - 8:00PM 

Post#7 » by Harper4Ferry? » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:21 pm

I only watched about 30 seconds of the game the other day but I did think he tweaked himself near the very end of the Kings game. Awkward movement of some sort.
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Re: Game 44 : Cleveland Cavaliers (16-27) @ Chicago Bulls (19-23) - 8:00PM 

Post#8 » by JonFromVA » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:08 pm

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JonFromVA wrote:Well... try to control your blood pressure, could be nothing ...

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/cavaliers-collin-sexton-out-with-sore-hamstring/

anything less than a high lottery pick or a ridiculously high upside player and Sexton being traded would kill my
ability to believe in this front office who are already on thin ice with me over the KPJ thing...
But Sexton probably has the most trade value outside of Allen and Nance so nothing would surprise me in a season where
Altman is starting to be out under alot of pressure although likely unwarranted at this stage, everyone knows how
owners and investors are worried about the bottom line esp in a pandemic
{ personally think it is a showcase of Darius on the eve of the deadline though lol}


Well, the rumor mill says the Heat might be willing to offer their young pieces in a trade (Herro, Robinson, Achiuwa), and I know you like at least one of those players. Herros' value has definitely nose-dived outside the bubble, though.

Supposedly the Heat are targeting Kyle Lowry, which if they do pull something off, there may need to be a 3rd team to just pick up all the pieces the Heat would need to trade to match salary.
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Re: Game 44 : Cleveland Cavaliers (16-27) @ Chicago Bulls (19-23) - 8:00PM 

Post#9 » by Stillwater » Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:06 am

Harper4Ferry? wrote:I only watched about 30 seconds of the game the other day but I did think he tweaked himself near the very end of the Kings game. Awkward movement of some sort.

He is hurt I saw it on the dvr thats the reason he is out but let the speculation fly as it would not surprise me if him being out had some other reason more likely imo to be to give DG more attn or maybe Osman
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Re: Game 44 : Cleveland Cavaliers (16-27) @ Chicago Bulls (19-23) - 8:00PM 

Post#10 » by jbk1234 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:40 am

I mean I hate to be that guy, but what if Sexton just has a pulled hamstring?

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Post#11 » by Stillwater » Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:46 am

they need to tank this game
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Re: Game 44 : Cleveland Cavaliers (16-27) @ Chicago Bulls (19-23) - 8:00PM 

Post#12 » by jbk1234 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:48 am

Stillwater wrote:they need to tank this game
Same. I think Garland looks tired. Probably should leave him on the bench.

Kidding, kind of.

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Re: Game 44 : Cleveland Cavaliers (16-27) @ Chicago Bulls (19-23) - 8:00PM 

Post#13 » by Stillwater » Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:51 am

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Stillwater wrote:they need to tank this game
Same. I think Garland looks tired. Probably should leave him on the bench.

Kidding, kind of.

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I think DG always looks like he has been napping recently...
Thomas has hops too WOW
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Post#14 » by Stillwater » Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:53 am

he must have seen my comments lol
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Post#15 » by JonFromVA » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:02 pm

Darius had a nice game, the Bulls announcers talked him up a lot more than their own Coby White. They like White's scoring but seem to feel White can't be trusted to stay under control and not turn the ball over at this point in his career.
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Post#16 » by jbk1234 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:30 pm

JonFromVA wrote:Darius had a nice game, the Bulls announcers talked him up a lot more than their own Coby White. They like White's scoring but seem to feel White can't be trusted to stay under control and not turn the ball over at this point in his career.
Then they were kinder to White than most Bulls fans.

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Re: Game 44 : Cleveland Cavaliers (16-27) @ Chicago Bulls (19-23) - 8:00PM 

Post#17 » by Stillwater » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:17 pm

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JonFromVA wrote:Darius had a nice game, the Bulls announcers talked him up a lot more than their own Coby White. They like White's scoring but seem to feel White can't be trusted to stay under control and not turn the ball over at this point in his career.
Then they were kinder to White than most Bulls fans.

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Hes been pushed to a bench role there too. I find that interesting since he is really is good when Lavine isnt playing with him.
I would not be surprised to see one of them moved today but at the same time doubt they would part with Lavine after trading for Vuc. Maybe they would take Cedi for White I could see his versatility working in the Cavs rotation.
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Re: Game 44 : Cleveland Cavaliers (16-27) @ Chicago Bulls (19-23) - 8:00PM 

Post#18 » by jbk1234 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:16 pm

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jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:Darius had a nice game, the Bulls announcers talked him up a lot more than their own Coby White. They like White's scoring but seem to feel White can't be trusted to stay under control and not turn the ball over at this point in his career.
Then they were kinder to White than most Bulls fans.

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Hes been pushed to a bench role there too. I find that interesting since he is really is good when Lavine isnt playing with him.
I would not be surprised to see one of them moved today but at the same time doubt they would part with Lavine after trading for Vuc. Maybe they would take Cedi for White I could see his versatility working in the Cavs rotation.
White just isn't very good on either side of the ball. He's a combo guard off the bench.

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Re: Game 44 : Cleveland Cavaliers (16-27) @ Chicago Bulls (19-23) - 8:00PM 

Post#19 » by Stillwater » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:54 pm

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jbk1234 wrote:Then they were kinder to White than most Bulls fans.

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Hes been pushed to a bench role there too. I find that interesting since he is really is good when Lavine isnt playing with him.
I would not be surprised to see one of them moved today but at the same time doubt they would part with Lavine after trading for Vuc. Maybe they would take Cedi for White I could see his versatility working in the Cavs rotation.
White just isn't very good on either side of the ball. He's a combo guard off the bench.

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he is easily good enough to be a 1st guard off the bench player as is on a good team let alone the Cavs in his 2nd season but I think it is absolutely based on poor fit on that CHI roster that he is hated so much and considered not that good. He is good at a lot of things offensively that are being wasted
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Re: Game 44 : Cleveland Cavaliers (16-27) @ Chicago Bulls (19-23) - 8:00PM 

Post#20 » by jbk1234 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:52 pm

Stillwater wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Hes been pushed to a bench role there too. I find that interesting since he is really is good when Lavine isnt playing with him.
I would not be surprised to see one of them moved today but at the same time doubt they would part with Lavine after trading for Vuc. Maybe they would take Cedi for White I could see his versatility working in the Cavs rotation.
White just isn't very good on either side of the ball. He's a combo guard off the bench.

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he is easily good enough to be a 1st guard off the bench player as is on a good team let alone the Cavs in his 2nd season but I think it is absolutely based on poor fit on that CHI roster that he is hated so much and considered not that good. He is good at a lot of things offensively that are being wasted
I mean he can't run an offense, at all, isn't a particularly efficient scorer, and is a poor defender. More importantly, the Bulls aren't seeing the hoped for improvement in these areas despite providing him with more opportunities. He's had the benefit of playing alongside a floor spacer like Lauri and a first option like LaVine. That's a pretty good situation for the third option guy to be in.

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