jbk1234 wrote:What's the delta between +/- and BPM? Without even looking, I bet it exists and I bet it's significant.JonFromVA wrote:LivingLegend wrote:
Honestly, there is something about Sexton that just bothers me. You look at his stats and go 'wow this guy is good' then you watch the Cavs play and look at their record and go 'is this guy contributing to winning?'
I think his impact is that of a poor mans Westbrook. His stats look pretty but when you watch the games there is something hollow there.
Watching Garland play, you can tell he makes the team better. The offensive flow is so much better, guys are getting involved easily with his drive/kicks and P&R. It all just looks.....smoother and more like a good NBA offense with Garland.
Hopefully all our young players have some more gears they can kick it in to as they develop, because as things sit now? The level of production isn't all that great.
I'm not a big fan of box score derived stats like BPM or PER, but because of our team problems, it's at least somewhat interesting. The good news is that both Collin and Darius's BPM have improved. The bad news is that Sexton's is 0.0 and Garland's is -1.6. What's interesting about that is that it's telling us that inspite of Collin stuffing the stat sheet nicely in some areas, overall, he's playing like a decent starter or a solid 6th man. Darius is still bench level.
You know who else in the league has a 0 BPM? ... Devin Booker.
If our guys get to the point where Mitchell (+3.5) and Conley (+4.4) are in Utah ... we might have something.
I'd also be happy with Lillard (+5.9) and McCollum (+3.3).
And it's not just that this stat hates players on losing teams, De'Aaron Fox was +1.4 and Tyrese Haliburton was +1.1.
Hopefully Garland and Sexton take a step up in that neighborhood next year? To get much higher, I think we need a lot of team synergy stuff to start clicking, perhaps helping them improve their efficiency, and generate more assists. Steals, rebounds, blocks? Probably not too much room for improvement there.
+/- isn't especially useful for the Cavs due to all the dysfunctional lineups. I brought up BPM to show that while Garland and Sexton are filling up certain areas of the box score, they still have a long ways to go. And it's not a small thing like simply dishing more assists because teammates make more shots.