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where do the Cavs land on your crystal ball ?

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Where do they pick this time? 7th is the greatest odds

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where do the Cavs land on your crystal ball ? 

Post#1 » by Stillwater » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:45 am

Lottery drawing is Tuesday I give you 4 options
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Post#2 » by Harper4Ferry? » Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:42 pm

#2 seems like the obvious choice. At #1, you just take Cunningham and it's probably the right pick regardless. At #2, you got a really great chance of drafting this year's version of Darko Milicic or more recently Marvin Bagley. We'll screw this up.
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Post#3 » by Stillwater » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:45 am

Harper4Ferry? wrote:#2 seems like the obvious choice. At #1, you just take Cunningham and it's probably the right pick regardless. At #2, you got a really great chance of drafting this year's version of Darko Milicic or more recently Marvin Bagley. We'll screw this up.

I think unless the front office is changed they would be highly likely to take Mobley at 2 with his ability to play the 4 or 5 and an advanced 2 way game...and being that it would allow them to sign and trade Allen if they don't want to pay him as much as he wants or something and with less need to retain him etc. I think if Cade does go 1st, which I think is only true for about 3 of the lottery teams besides CLE who probably also will Cavs take Mobley 8 times out of 10 at 2nd overall and if not it's Kuminga or Barnes to fill out the top 4. I dont now see them taking either top 6 guard
That said, I like our odds at a top 4 this time.
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Post#4 » by LivingLegend » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:10 am

Considering the Cavs have had horrible lotto luck recently and they are slated for even worse odds this year---im going to say they stay at #7 or #8.

Fire up the Scottie Barnes vs. Franz Wagner debates baby
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Post#5 » by Stillwater » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:18 pm

advise: stay away from good tv go to garage or something during drawing . if they get lucky you can dance if they fail you can avoid insurance claims
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Post#6 » by Harper4Ferry? » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:57 am

#3, Green?
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Post#7 » by Revenged25 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:59 am

Well at least it's Green or Mobley. Guess it depends on what Houston wants.
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Post#8 » by KuruptedCav » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:03 am

Harper4Ferry? wrote:#3, Green?

Hopefully the Pistons/Rockets don’t do something stupid like let Mobley fall to 3


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Post#9 » by LivingLegend » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:05 am

Green seems to be the guy for SF.....right?
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Post#10 » by Mind_Odyssey » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:08 am

Draft Green and watch him cook

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Post#11 » by KuruptedCav » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:14 am

LivingLegend wrote:Green seems to be the guy for SF.....right?

I don’t think he has the size to defend the 3. He’s a thin player, like he’d give up at least 15lbs to every listed SF.

He’s a SG. I think Malik Beasley with a better defensive ceiling.


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Post#12 » by LivingLegend » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:49 am

KuruptedCav wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:Green seems to be the guy for SF.....right?

I don’t think he has the size to defend the 3. He’s a thin player, like he’d give up at least 15lbs to every listed SF.

He’s a SG. I think Malik Beasley with a better defensive ceiling.


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If we're spending a top 3 pick on a player his ceiling better not be Malik Beasley :lol:

From watching his breakdown they basically make it sound like a he's a all-offense no-defense Shooting Guard. I kind of get some smaller Brandon Ingram vibes from him or maybe even Zach Levine.
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Post#13 » by jbk1234 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:49 am

Harper4Ferry? wrote:#3, Green?
Yep. Unless someone comes in with a stupid offer for Suggs.

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Post#14 » by LivingLegend » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:52 am

If we take Green, we better hope Okoro grew 2 inches this off-season lol
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Post#15 » by Stillwater » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:59 am

Cavs need spacing but I am thinking they will be taking Barnes at 3... he is killing it at the combine has everything else they need besides shooting and they can get more of it just by setting up the guards to shoot more,playing off him.esp if get Windler and Wade more run and maybe buy a early 2nd or late first for another 3/d guy.
I think Green won't want to be in CLE and won't want to share the rock with Sexland at all, so unless they plan on making trades he is not the prospect on top of the bb for fast forwarding anything.
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Post#16 » by Stillwater » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:02 am

LivingLegend wrote:If we take Green, we better hope Okoro grew 2 inches this off-season lol

Green has a legit shot to go 1 to Detroit imo he is exactly what they need
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Post#17 » by Revenged25 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:12 am

Stillwater wrote:Cavs need spacing but I am thinking they will be taking Barnes at 3... he is killing it at the combine has everything else they need besides shooting and they can get more of it just by setting up the guards to shoot more,playing off him.esp if get Windler and Wade more run and maybe buy a early 2nd or late first for another 3/d guy.
I think Green won't want to be in CLE and won't want to share the rock with Sexland at all, so unless they plan on making trades he is not the prospect on top of the bb for fast forwarding anything.


I mean everyone is talking about who to trade to make room for who is picked at #3, what about the option of trading #3 for a younger All-Star?
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Post#18 » by LivingLegend » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:13 am

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Harper4Ferry? wrote:#3, Green?
Yep. Unless someone comes in with a stupid offer for Suggs.

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Alright, Ive spent 45 mins reading/watching everything about Green. He sounds really good but the biggest comparison a lot of writers seem to make is Zach Lavine--who took 7 years to go from raw talent to putting it all together. Many believe that will be the same process for Green because he is incredibly raw talent that doesnt know much else besides get the ball and score.

Apparently his negatives is that 1) He has no feel for the game 2) Hes a bad defender that gives little effort and 3) Hes doesnt pass much and lacks play making for others.

So it sounds like he is a dynamic scorer that does little else and it will depend on if he develops in other areas for him to be successful. One article said that he could go two ways-- Zack Lavine or Terrance Ross but either way its going to take him a few years to develop and will likely be best served in a 6th man role for a few seasons.
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Post#19 » by LivingLegend » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:13 am

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Stillwater wrote:Cavs need spacing but I am thinking they will be taking Barnes at 3... he is killing it at the combine has everything else they need besides shooting and they can get more of it just by setting up the guards to shoot more,playing off him.esp if get Windler and Wade more run and maybe buy a early 2nd or late first for another 3/d guy.
I think Green won't want to be in CLE and won't want to share the rock with Sexland at all, so unless they plan on making trades he is not the prospect on top of the bb for fast forwarding anything.


I mean everyone is talking about who to trade to make room for who is picked at #3, what about the option of trading #3 for a younger All-Star?


Do you know of any teams that are currently willing to trade a young All-Star for a draft pick?
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Post#20 » by Stillwater » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:14 am

Revenged25 wrote:Well at least it's Green or Mobley. Guess it depends on what Houston wants.

I bet Green goes 1 or 2 if he is legit 6'6 and works out for 1 or both of those orgs. He is skipping the testing at the combine so I am guessing he will only do workouts for teams he wants to join. The good thing if Cavs want him is 3 is high enough he might work out for them. I doubt Mobley is there , in fact I would bet on Cade being there at 3 more than most people will over Mobley falling
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