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Richardo Rubio to Evan Mobility is a thing of beauty.

Cavs holding Mavs under 40%; there is a lot to like about the defense. Offense…. A lot of turnovers and lulls. Can’t do everything at once.


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Awesome game. Lauri has been great. Garland to Allen lobs are fun.

I wonder when opponents are going to stop with the drop coverage on Garland ... sheesh.

I thought NBA defenses had like 17 different ways to defend the P&R, and we're beating teams up like it's still Stockton to Malone prime time.

Our passing and ball movement keeps getting better ... I just wish Austin and Brad could remembers that the more you move the ball around the more you will turn it over and give up transition buckets. It's not the end of the world.

I used to say that Kyrie's ability to knock down circus shots was nice and all, but not really the goal of a good offense. By intelligently manipulating the defense we see Garland and Rubio create easy layups for themselves, dunks for our bigs, and wide open shots for our shooters every night. It's a treat to watch real PG play.

A truly impressive game by the Cavs. Take away a few Cavs' turnovers and the A-shooting night (concerning behing the arc only though...) of Doncic and it wouldn't have been even this close.

Bullstuff wrote:A truly impressive game by the Cavs. Take away a few Cavs' turnovers and the A-shooting night (concerning behing the arc only though...) of Doncic and it wouldn't have been even this close.

Yep, but on the flip side, the Mavs missed a lot of open shots. Shooting a ton of 3's at 33% (as a team) is problematic.

I thought the Mavs might have had the length to actually challenge us, but Allen was running a clinic on Moses Brown and he got pulled for good in the 3rd. Still, they were +2 with him on the floor and -34 with Kleber and -12 with Powell.

Maybe ZIngis hates playing C so much he injured himself ...

JonFromVA wrote:I wonder when opponents are going to stop with the drop coverage on Garland ... sheesh.

I thought NBA defenses had like 17 different ways to defend the P&R, and we're beating teams up like it's still Stockton to Malone prime time.

Our passing and ball movement keeps getting better ... I just wish Austin and Brad could remembers that the more you move the ball around the more you will turn it over and give up transition buckets. It's not the end of the world.

I used to say that Kyrie's ability to knock down circus shots was nice and all, but not really the goal of a good offense. By intelligently manipulating the defense we see Garland and Rubio create easy layups for themselves, dunks for our bigs, and wide open shots for our shooters every night. It's a treat to watch real PG play.

As far as strategies go, let Garland get his but limit his ability as a facilitator isn't a bad one. We've seen the Cavs struggle with four defenders in the box before. Cedi and Rubio are both going to come back down to earth in terms of 3 point shooting over an 80 game season. It's my hope that we'll get some improvement out of both Okoro and Windler to help offset that reality.

Anyway, great game. We're over .500 having just passed the quarter mark in the season. As no one had that in pool, we'll wait for the halfway point.

jbk1234 wrote:

JonFromVA wrote:I wonder when opponents are going to stop with the drop coverage on Garland ... sheesh.

I thought NBA defenses had like 17 different ways to defend the P&R, and we're beating teams up like it's still Stockton to Malone prime time.

Our passing and ball movement keeps getting better ... I just wish Austin and Brad could remembers that the more you move the ball around the more you will turn it over and give up transition buckets. It's not the end of the world.

I used to say that Kyrie's ability to knock down circus shots was nice and all, but not really the goal of a good offense. By intelligently manipulating the defense we see Garland and Rubio create easy layups for themselves, dunks for our bigs, and wide open shots for our shooters every night. It's a treat to watch real PG play.

As far as strategies go, let Garland get his but limit his ability as a facilitator isn't a bad one. We've seen the Cavs struggle with four defenders in the box before. Cedi and Rubio are both going to come back down to earth in terms of 3 point shooting over an 80 game season. It's my hope that we'll get some improvement out of both Okoro and Windler to help offset that reality.

Anyway, great game. We're over .500 having just passed the quarter mark in the season. As no one had that in pool, we'll wait for the halfway point.

To play Garland by the numbers, you'd want to keep him shooting in the 3 to 10 feet range where he's at 40.0%. He's killing it everywhere else, including the 0-3 range where he's all the way up to 66% so far this season.

The options aren't great, and with our ball movement we're turning pure junk in to gold. That won't be so easy against better defensive teams, but it truly shows the value of having multiple threats and not letting the D get cozy.

The Finnisher is on fire! Really strong play everywhere on the court, not just jacking up 3s.

Before the end of the season his deal will look like a bargain.

Btw, anyone missing Sexton? I'm not.

FranchisePlayer wrote:Btw, anyone missing Sexton? I'm not.

Well, we've scored 100+ pts 4 games in a row and since Evan has returned we've dished out 28 and 29 assists, so, not so much; but I still would have liked to see how he meshed with this year's team and what we were asking of him.

otoh, his injury is allowing us to evaluate Okoro at SG which probably doesn't happen without. JBB gets to live out his dream of turning Isaac in to Tony Allen 2.0.

FranchisePlayer wrote:Btw, anyone missing Sexton? I'm not.

I think Ricky Rubio might. He's been trying to pick up Sexton's scoring load and failing miserably, shooting 32% from the field and 30% from 3 in his last 9 games.

FranchisePlayer wrote:The Finnisher is on fire! Really strong play everywhere on the court, not just jacking up 3s.

Before the end of the season his deal will look like a bargain.

For all the people who feel we're suffering at SF, Lauri is doing a pretty good job of providing the offense we'd want out of theoretical-new-player-X. For instance, Cam Reddish has his TS% all the way up to 54.5% this season elevating him to near untouchable in some fans minds ... but Lauri is at 54.4 inspite of his slow start this season and was at 61.9% last year. Of course Reddish is supposed to be the much better individual defender, but how much does that matter when you defend as a team?

I'm not sure how the numbers work out these days, but in the past apparently there was a pretty good case for playing a defensive oriented SG rather than an offensive oriented one, so sliding Okoro over has some potential benefits.

JonFromVA wrote:

FranchisePlayer wrote:Btw, anyone missing Sexton? I'm not.

Well, we've scored 100+ pts 4 games in a row and since Evan has returned we've dished out 28 and 29 assists, so, not so much; but I still would have liked to see how he meshed with this year's team and what we were asking of him.

otoh, his injury is allowing us to evaluate Okoro at SG which probably doesn't happen without. JBB gets to live out his dream of turning Isaac in to Tony Allen 2.0.

I was mostly referring to not seeing his tunnel vision game, but fair enough.

toooskies wrote:

FranchisePlayer wrote:Btw, anyone missing Sexton? I'm not.

I think Ricky Rubio might. He's been trying to pick up Sexton's scoring load and failing miserably, shooting 32% from the field and 30% from 3 in his last 9 games.

Yeah, he's getting a little bit of ahead of himself. Pushing his shots.

OTOH, he's made plays and created scoring chances for others. Something Sexton is unable to do.

At this point, to me, Rubio > Sexton and not even particularly close. Call me old school.

FranchisePlayer wrote:Btw, anyone missing Sexton? I'm not.

Yes.

Revenged25 wrote:

FranchisePlayer wrote:Btw, anyone missing Sexton? I'm not.

Yes.

Good to hear, bud!

FranchisePlayer wrote:

toooskies wrote:

FranchisePlayer wrote:Btw, anyone missing Sexton? I'm not.

I think Ricky Rubio might. He's been trying to pick up Sexton's scoring load and failing miserably, shooting 32% from the field and 30% from 3 in his last 9 games.

Yeah, he's getting a little bit of ahead of himself. Pushing his shots.

OTOH, he's made plays and created scoring chances for others. Something Sexton is unable to do.

At this point, to me, Rubio > Sexton and not even particularly close. Call me old school.

Yep, super scoring Rubio has been MIA lately, but it's easy to dismiss given he's giving us competent and aggressive PG play.

Call me new school, but I'm just not going to complain about the player who leads our team with +4.1 on-court +/- and +10.1 on-off even as his TS% dips below 50%.

The trick to picking up Collin's scoring was always to spread it around to the hot hand any given night. If Ricky was firing up 20+ shots a night without regard to how many he bricked, I'd be concerned.

In Collin's highest scoring game last year, he gave us 42 points on 29 shots in a win .vs. Brooklyn.

In this last game .vs. Dallas, Lauri and Jarrett (two guys who can't create their own shot) scored 52 points on 32 shots, .vs. Orlando they gave us 39 points on 22 shots.

So, that's how we get it done ... move the ball and generate even higher % shots than a scorer having a career game.

Lauri is really good. He did a really good job bothering Luka & forcing him into tough 3 pointers. They just went in lol. Lauri is a 7ft forward. Cavs realized that.

I don’t care if Mobley isn’t putting up a thousand shots to get 20+ every night. His defense and impact is just amazing. He’s ROY at this point.

Jarrett Allen has developed into a top center in the east. He should be a all star this year. He is so damn dominant. Just overpowers most centers. Especially when he’s angry lol.

Garland needs to fix those turnovers but he is developing into a great young PG.

Okoro is setting in now. Thank Goodness he’s only 20.

Rubio is amazing. Enough said lol

Koby has done a good job so far. Need a 6’7 or taller SG or back up tall wing.

JonFromVA wrote:

FranchisePlayer wrote:

toooskies wrote:I think Ricky Rubio might. He's been trying to pick up Sexton's scoring load and failing miserably, shooting 32% from the field and 30% from 3 in his last 9 games.

Yeah, he's getting a little bit of ahead of himself. Pushing his shots.

OTOH, he's made plays and created scoring chances for others. Something Sexton is unable to do.

At this point, to me, Rubio > Sexton and not even particularly close. Call me old school.

Yep, super scoring Rubio has been MIA lately, but it's easy to dismiss given he's giving us competent and aggressive PG play.

Call me new school, but I'm just not going to complain about the player who leads our team with +4.1 on-court +/- and +10.1 on-off even as his TS% dips below 50%.

The trick to picking up Collin's scoring was always to spread it around to the hot hand any given night. If Ricky was firing up 20+ shots a night without regard to how many he bricked, I'd be concerned.

In Collin's highest scoring game last year, he gave us 42 points on 29 shots in a win .vs. Brooklyn.

In this last game .vs. Dallas, Lauri and Jarrett (two guys who can't create their own shot) scored 52 points on 32 shots, .vs. Orlando they gave us 39 points on 22 shots.

So, that's how we get it done ... move the ball and generate even higher % shots than a scorer having a career game.

Not knocking Rubio, I love his impact on the game and the shots he gets for everyone else, and he has helped keep the team in a lot of those games while half the team was out. But he did have 4/17, 4/15, and 5/20 shooting nights recently, and I guarantee he wouldn't have to be trying so hard to get his own shot on offense if Sexton was around.

(That said, somebody get Windler some shots!)