ImageImageImage

GT #46, Cavaliers @ Bulls, 19 January 2022, 8:00 PM ET

Moderator: ijspeelman

ducler
Cold Hard Gameday Facts
Posts: 15,607
And1: 8,991
Joined: Jun 15, 2008
Location: France
 

GT #46, Cavaliers @ Bulls, 19 January 2022, 8:00 PM ET 

Post#1 » by ducler » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:06 pm

Read on Twitter
Image
KuruptedCav
Analyst
Posts: 3,149
And1: 1,171
Joined: Dec 15, 2004

Re: GT #46, Cavaliers @ Bulls, 19 January 2022, 8:00 PM ET 

Post#2 » by KuruptedCav » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:20 am

Cavs got their litmus test.

They were outplayed for 3 quarters by a team missing Zach LeVine and Lonzo Ball, giving up the paint; had a chance with 5 minutes to go and proceeded to play 210 seconds of Sacramento Kings basketball.


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM mobile app
Bullstuff
Freshman
Posts: 77
And1: 35
Joined: Nov 01, 2019

Re: GT #46, Cavaliers @ Bulls, 19 January 2022, 8:00 PM ET 

Post#3 » by Bullstuff » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:33 pm

Allen's worst offensive game of the season was not compensated by Markkanen's best. Markkanen had a good shooting night, but this time unfortunately missed the last 3 pointer (unfortunately missed the last one, when Cavs were trailing 106-102).
JonFromVA
RealGM
Posts: 15,090
And1: 5,015
Joined: Dec 08, 2009
     

Re: GT #46, Cavaliers @ Bulls, 19 January 2022, 8:00 PM ET 

Post#4 » by JonFromVA » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:05 pm

KuruptedCav wrote:Cavs got their litmus test.

They were outplayed for 3 quarters by a team missing Zach LeVine and Lonzo Ball, giving up the paint; had a chance with 5 minutes to go and proceeded to play 210 seconds of Sacramento Kings basketball.


Technically, we were missing 4 rotational players ourselves. The Bulls got some nice contributions from their reserves, and Ayo especially looks like a great find and gee, maybe 21yr old Coby White wasn't a wasted pick.

What I couldn't figure out, though, was why JBB was easing up on playing Mobley in this game especially at the end of the first half when usually he'd come back in. Maybe their athletic tracking data is telling them to ease off the kid ...

Of course it would have helped a ton if Kevin and Cedi came in and start hitting big shots like we've seen so much of during our winning streak. Just didn't happen this time, and no Evan to clean up the defense.

Ayo did a nice job defending Garland in addition to nailing almost every open shot. Garland still managed to have a productive game and we got some practice letting other players handle the ball more, but IMO it's a problem.

We all know the concerns ... but is there any doubt given the way Caris LeVert has been playing lately that he would help the Cavs?
toooskies
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,161
And1: 2,500
Joined: Jul 18, 2013
     

Re: GT #46, Cavaliers @ Bulls, 19 January 2022, 8:00 PM ET 

Post#5 » by toooskies » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:53 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
KuruptedCav wrote:Cavs got their litmus test.

They were outplayed for 3 quarters by a team missing Zach LeVine and Lonzo Ball, giving up the paint; had a chance with 5 minutes to go and proceeded to play 210 seconds of Sacramento Kings basketball.


Technically, we were missing 4 rotational players ourselves. The Bulls got some nice contributions from their reserves, and Ayo especially looks like a great find and gee, maybe 21yr old Coby White wasn't a wasted pick.

What I couldn't figure out, though, was why JBB was easing up on playing Mobley in this game especially at the end of the first half when usually he'd come back in. Maybe their athletic tracking data is telling them to ease off the kid ...

Of course it would have helped a ton if Kevin and Cedi came in and start hitting big shots like we've seen so much of during our winning streak. Just didn't happen this time, and no Evan to clean up the defense.

Ayo did a nice job defending Garland in addition to nailing almost every open shot. Garland still managed to have a productive game and we got some practice letting other players handle the ball more, but IMO it's a problem.

We all know the concerns ... but is there any doubt given the way Caris LeVert has been playing lately that he would help the Cavs?

Don't need player tracking data to see that Mobley's defense has fallen off a bit. It might be the increased offensive role, but it might just be that he's tired.

Allen looked mediocre yesterday, Vucevic went right around him once and he looked like he was moving in slow motion.

LeVert's price is going up the way he's been playing, that's for certain.
JonFromVA
RealGM
Posts: 15,090
And1: 5,015
Joined: Dec 08, 2009
     

Re: GT #46, Cavaliers @ Bulls, 19 January 2022, 8:00 PM ET 

Post#6 » by JonFromVA » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:53 pm

toooskies wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
KuruptedCav wrote:Cavs got their litmus test.

They were outplayed for 3 quarters by a team missing Zach LeVine and Lonzo Ball, giving up the paint; had a chance with 5 minutes to go and proceeded to play 210 seconds of Sacramento Kings basketball.


Technically, we were missing 4 rotational players ourselves. The Bulls got some nice contributions from their reserves, and Ayo especially looks like a great find and gee, maybe 21yr old Coby White wasn't a wasted pick.

What I couldn't figure out, though, was why JBB was easing up on playing Mobley in this game especially at the end of the first half when usually he'd come back in. Maybe their athletic tracking data is telling them to ease off the kid ...

Of course it would have helped a ton if Kevin and Cedi came in and start hitting big shots like we've seen so much of during our winning streak. Just didn't happen this time, and no Evan to clean up the defense.

Ayo did a nice job defending Garland in addition to nailing almost every open shot. Garland still managed to have a productive game and we got some practice letting other players handle the ball more, but IMO it's a problem.

We all know the concerns ... but is there any doubt given the way Caris LeVert has been playing lately that he would help the Cavs?

Don't need player tracking data to see that Mobley's defense has fallen off a bit. It might be the increased offensive role, but it might just be that he's tired.

Allen looked mediocre yesterday, Vucevic went right around him once and he looked like he was moving in slow motion.

LeVert's price is going up the way he's been playing, that's for certain.


Well, we finally get a couple of days off and a stretch of home games, let's see if that helps?

JBB still played Garland 40 minutes, so, unless it's input from the training staff - it's not really clear what if anything is guiding JBB on play time.
User avatar
FranchisePlayer
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,763
And1: 598
Joined: Oct 25, 2019
 

Re: GT #46, Cavaliers @ Bulls, 19 January 2022, 8:00 PM ET 

Post#7 » by FranchisePlayer » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:43 pm

Bullstuff wrote:Allen's worst offensive game of the season was not compensated by Markkanen's best. Markkanen had a good shooting night, but this time unfortunately missed the last 3 pointer (unfortunately missed the last one, when Cavs were trailing 106-102).


He was the hot hand of the night. It was his shot.
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.

12/2/2022
I like the quote- it makes me chuckle. And it was/is pretty much true.
JonFromVA
RealGM
Posts: 15,090
And1: 5,015
Joined: Dec 08, 2009
     

Re: GT #46, Cavaliers @ Bulls, 19 January 2022, 8:00 PM ET 

Post#8 » by JonFromVA » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:40 pm

FranchisePlayer wrote:
Bullstuff wrote:Allen's worst offensive game of the season was not compensated by Markkanen's best. Markkanen had a good shooting night, but this time unfortunately missed the last 3 pointer (unfortunately missed the last one, when Cavs were trailing 106-102).


He was the hot hand of the night. It was his shot.


Worth a shot, Lauri made a big shot the other night and we need to start figuring out who we can trust to close games.

It would be nice if we could do better than Darius driving and trying to get fouled.
Bullstuff
Freshman
Posts: 77
And1: 35
Joined: Nov 01, 2019

Re: GT #46, Cavaliers @ Bulls, 19 January 2022, 8:00 PM ET 

Post#9 » by Bullstuff » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:05 am

Totally agreeing with both of you.

Return to Cleveland Cavaliers