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Game 22: 76ers @ Cavs 11/30/2022

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:33 pm
by ijspeelman
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Unable to watch the game today, but Go Cavs!

Re: Game 22: 76ers @ Cavs 11/30/2022

Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 1:21 am
by toooskies
Great energy in the first half!

Re: Game 22: 76ers @ Cavs 11/30/2022

Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 2:31 am
by JujitsuFlip
Looks like Cavs put it on em start to finish, wish I coulda seen it!

How did Diakite look with the starters?

Re: Game 22: 76ers @ Cavs 11/30/2022

Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 4:30 am
by toooskies
JujitsuFlip wrote:Looks like Cavs put it on em start to finish, wish I coulda seen it!

How did Diakite look with the starters?

We started with a lot of zone and trapping. Defensively fine, but I think it was more that Embiid didn't have it tonight rather than us shutting him down. Offensively Mobley had a ton of space in the lane to work or catch lobs with Diakite in the corner, and we killed them in transition all night. We really outran them.

Re: Game 22: 76ers @ Cavs 11/30/2022

Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 1:58 pm
by jbk1234
toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Looks like Cavs put it on em start to finish, wish I coulda seen it!

How did Diakite look with the starters?

We started with a lot of zone and trapping. Defensively fine, but I think it was more that Embiid didn't have it tonight rather than us shutting him down. Offensively Mobley had a ton of space in the lane to work or catch lobs with Diakite in the corner, and we killed them in transition all night. We really outran them.


I thought Tucker was a questionable acquisition for them. You saw him struggle in transition defense against the Celtics in the ECF last year and he's not getting any younger. None of Biid, Maxey, Harris, or Harden are good transition defenders, and the group as a whole is poor defensively. They really need to outscore their opponent, which is difficult to do with both Maxey and Harden out.

Re: Game 22: 76ers @ Cavs 11/30/2022

Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 2:55 pm
by toooskies
jbk1234 wrote:
toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Looks like Cavs put it on em start to finish, wish I coulda seen it!

How did Diakite look with the starters?

We started with a lot of zone and trapping. Defensively fine, but I think it was more that Embiid didn't have it tonight rather than us shutting him down. Offensively Mobley had a ton of space in the lane to work or catch lobs with Diakite in the corner, and we killed them in transition all night. We really outran them.

I thought Tucker was a questionable acquisition for them. You saw him struggle in transition defense against the Celtics in the ECF last year and he's not getting any younger. None of Biid, Maxey, Harris, or Harden are good transition defenders, and the group as a whole is poor defensively. They really need to outscore their opponent, which is difficult to do with both Maxey and Harden out.

Yeah, Tucker is way overrated. He doesn't single-handedly fix your defense except against specific teams with heliocentric forwards in the half court. That's not worth the nothing you get from him on offense.

Also thought picking up House was way overrated. Guy was getting 10-day contracts last season.

Re: Game 22: 76ers @ Cavs 11/30/2022

Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 4:10 pm
by JonFromVA
JujitsuFlip wrote:Looks like Cavs put it on em start to finish, wish I coulda seen it!

How did Diakite look with the starters?


Very promising. Two mobile rim protectors is our secret-sauce, and it sure doesn't hurt that Diakite can knock down 3's too.

I wish JBB had prepared him better to be thrown to the proverbial dogs like this with more rotation minutes before Allen went down, but at least he didn't wait for Lopez or Mobley to get hurt before trying him.

Re: Game 22: 76ers @ Cavs 11/30/2022

Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 4:41 pm
by ijspeelman
JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Looks like Cavs put it on em start to finish, wish I coulda seen it!

How did Diakite look with the starters?


Very promising. Two mobile rim protectors is our secret-sauce, and it sure doesn't hurt that Diakite can knock down 3's too.

I wish JBB had prepared him better to be thrown to the proverbial dogs like this with more rotation minutes before Allen went down, but at least he didn't wait for Lopez or Mobley to get hurt before trying him.


I wouldn't get too hyped about his three point shooting just yet. He's shooting 44% on very small sample this season, but including the G-league, for his career he is a 32.1% three point shooter on 2.3 3PA/36 (829 total minute sample and 22.7% on 2.0 3PA/36 for just NBA minutes). This isn't apples to apples either, but in college he shot 33.7% on 1.3 3PA/36 (2795 minute sample).

Re: Game 22: 76ers @ Cavs 11/30/2022

Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 6:27 pm
by JonFromVA
ijspeelman wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Looks like Cavs put it on em start to finish, wish I coulda seen it!

How did Diakite look with the starters?


Very promising. Two mobile rim protectors is our secret-sauce, and it sure doesn't hurt that Diakite can knock down 3's too.

I wish JBB had prepared him better to be thrown to the proverbial dogs like this with more rotation minutes before Allen went down, but at least he didn't wait for Lopez or Mobley to get hurt before trying him.


I wouldn't get too hyped about his three point shooting just yet. He's shooting 44% on very small sample this season, but including the G-league, for his career he is a 32.1% three point shooter on 2.3 3PA/36 (829 total minute sample and 22.7% on 2.0 3PA/36 for just NBA minutes). This isn't apples to apples either, but in college he shot 33.7% on 1.3 3PA/36 (2795 minute sample).


Sure, for a raw player, you don't worry so much about production as growth. He'd never even attempted more than a pair of 3's in the NBA before last night, but when he started getting more 3's up as a college senior, he shot 35.7% - which shows growth, but I'm primarily interested in how he can help us on the defensive side because of how things break down defensively when Mobley is playing with a non-mobile big.

Re: Game 22: 76ers @ Cavs 11/30/2022

Posted: Fri Dec 2, 2022 2:57 pm
by ijspeelman
JonFromVA wrote:
ijspeelman wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
Very promising. Two mobile rim protectors is our secret-sauce, and it sure doesn't hurt that Diakite can knock down 3's too.

I wish JBB had prepared him better to be thrown to the proverbial dogs like this with more rotation minutes before Allen went down, but at least he didn't wait for Lopez or Mobley to get hurt before trying him.


I wouldn't get too hyped about his three point shooting just yet. He's shooting 44% on very small sample this season, but including the G-league, for his career he is a 32.1% three point shooter on 2.3 3PA/36 (829 total minute sample and 22.7% on 2.0 3PA/36 for just NBA minutes). This isn't apples to apples either, but in college he shot 33.7% on 1.3 3PA/36 (2795 minute sample).


Sure, for a raw player, you don't worry so much about production as growth. He'd never even attempted more than a pair of 3's in the NBA before last night, but when he started getting more 3's up as a college senior, he shot 35.7% - which shows growth, but I'm primarily interested in how he can help us on the defensive side because of how things break down defensively when Mobley is playing with a non-mobile big.


I definitely agree with you that I like the idea of having a player who can be a mobile big on defense. Currently, he is not the best team defender, but he is young and new to this defensive scheme so he could become a really important bench guy.

Re: Game 22: 76ers @ Cavs 11/30/2022

Posted: Fri Dec 2, 2022 3:48 pm
by toooskies
Diakite is almost 26. He's about the same age as Lamar Stevens and Donovan Mitchell.

Re: Game 22: 76ers @ Cavs 11/30/2022

Posted: Fri Dec 2, 2022 5:06 pm
by JonFromVA
toooskies wrote:Diakite is almost 26. He's about the same age as Lamar Stevens and Donovan Mitchell.


And this just might be the season Lamar establishes himself as an NBA player, but Lamar played more minutes as a rookie than Diakite has so far in his entire NBA career.

His age is actually great. Entering his prime he should be peaking physically and he has a solid background playing at UVA and practicing a lot in Milwaukee. He *looks* ready to contribute, but he needs playtime, he needs minutes.

Re: Game 22: 76ers @ Cavs 11/30/2022

Posted: Fri Dec 2, 2022 5:28 pm
by JujitsuFlip
Dang, I didn't realize Diakite was an NBA and NCAA champion, that's pretty cool to be apart of those kind of cultures.

Re: Game 22: 76ers @ Cavs 11/30/2022

Posted: Fri Dec 2, 2022 6:56 pm
by JonFromVA
JujitsuFlip wrote:Dang, I didn't realize Diakite was an NBA and NCAA champion, that's pretty cool to be apart of those kind of cultures.


Yeah, when they talked to him about his goals with the Cavs back in pre-season, he answered to win another championship. :lol: