Game 51: Cavs @ Raptors 2/10/2024

JujitsuFlip · Post #2 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:16 pm

Is this a trap game?

Post #3 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:23 am

Niang is just killing us.

JujitsuFlip · Post #4 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:44 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:Is this a trap game?

Survey says no.

mcfly1204 · Post #5 » by **mcfly1204** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:45 am

8 players with double digit points tonight. Mobley is looking more confident, especially against smaller defenders. Fun watch.

Post #6 » by **ijspeelman** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:06 am

Missed this for an event so will need to go back and watch. Based on thing I've seen seemed like a good team game

edit: just realized I wore a Toronto Maple Leafs hat all day (gf's fam is from Toronto) so almost jinxed us

Post #7 » by **ijspeelman** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:55 am

I like this...

JujitsuFlip · Post #8 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:52 am

ijspeelman wrote:

I like this...

He just needed Strus and Merrill to show him the way lol

JonFromVA · Post #9 » by **JonFromVA** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:16 pm

Some people on this board need to start rethinking their take on guys like Okoro, Wade, LeVert, etc.

mcfly1204 · Post #10 » by **mcfly1204** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:47 pm

JonFromVA wrote:Some people on this board need to start rethinking their take on guys like Okoro, Wade, LeVert, etc.

Okoro and Wade are right on the cusp of being legitimate 3 and D wings. For Okoro in particular, it really just looks like a confidence thing. He started showing us that Euro step earlier this season, now he's showing that he can hit more than just spot up 3s.

JonFromVA · Post #11 » by **JonFromVA** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:44 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:Some people on this board need to start rethinking their take on guys like Okoro, Wade, LeVert, etc.

Okoro and Wade are right on the cusp of being legitimate 3 and D wings. For Okoro in particular, it really just looks like a confidence thing. He started showing us that Euro step earlier this season, now he's showing that he can hit more than just spot up 3s.

Maybe my memory is failing me, but aren't they better than anything we've had in the past 20 years or more?

Richard Jefferson helped us a lot, but I don't remember him making an impact game in and game out like this.

mcfly1204 · Post #12 » by **mcfly1204** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:50 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:Some people on this board need to start rethinking their take on guys like Okoro, Wade, LeVert, etc.

Okoro and Wade are right on the cusp of being legitimate 3 and D wings. For Okoro in particular, it really just looks like a confidence thing. He started showing us that Euro step earlier this season, now he's showing that he can hit more than just spot up 3s.

Maybe my memory is failing me, but aren't they better than anything we've had in the past 20 years or more?

Richard Jefferson helped us a lot, but I don't remember him making an impact game in and game out like this.

JR Smith comes to mind for me.

Post #13 » by **ijspeelman** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:16 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:Okoro and Wade are right on the cusp of being legitimate 3 and D wings. For Okoro in particular, it really just looks like a confidence thing. He started showing us that Euro step earlier this season, now he's showing that he can hit more than just spot up 3s.

Maybe my memory is failing me, but aren't they better than anything we've had in the past 20 years or more?

Richard Jefferson helped us a lot, but I don't remember him making an impact game in and game out like this.

JR Smith comes to mind for me.

I actually went back and looked at JR Smith's stats the other day and during his first two years with us he was a crazy good role player

~40% 3P% on ~11.5 attempts per 100. ~102 TS+.

Surprisingly, Wade's numbers look similar this year. ~40% on 9.0 attempts per 100. 102 TS+. JR Smith had much more he could be doing offensively off the catch, but I don't think he was ever nearly as versatile as Wade is on D.

Adding in Okoro's number just for consistency lol. ~38% on ~5 attempts per 100. 102 TS+

JonFromVA · Post #14 » by **JonFromVA** » Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:52 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:Okoro and Wade are right on the cusp of being legitimate 3 and D wings. For Okoro in particular, it really just looks like a confidence thing. He started showing us that Euro step earlier this season, now he's showing that he can hit more than just spot up 3s.

Maybe my memory is failing me, but aren't they better than anything we've had in the past 20 years or more?

Richard Jefferson helped us a lot, but I don't remember him making an impact game in and game out like this.

JR Smith comes to mind for me.

JR is fair, but case in point the times he actually provided superior defense and shooting were pretty narrow.

Same with Delonte who I didn't mention because he's more guard than wing.