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Would anyone be interested in dealing Gooden and Hughes for Artest and Kenny Thomas? Artest would be a good second option for the Cavs, and Thomas would be motivated by being on a good team. This would also make LeBron happy by finally giving him some help

Cleveland Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -2.8 ppg, -3.7 rpg, and +1.2 apg.

Incoming Players
Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
1.4 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 12.2 minutes
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.0 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 3.9 apg in 38.4 minutes
Outgoing Players
Larry Hughes
6-5 SG from St. Louis
12.0 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 29.7 minutes
Drew Gooden
6-9 PF from Kansas
11.2 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 30.7 minutes

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +2.8 ppg, +3.7 rpg, and -1.2 apg.

Incoming Players
Larry Hughes
6-5 SG from St. Louis
12.0 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 29.7 minutes
Drew Gooden
6-9 PF from Kansas
11.2 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 30.7 minutes
Outgoing Players
Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
1.4 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 12.2 minutes
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.0 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 3.9 apg in 38.4 minutes

not for half a year no we woulndt.

NO.

Trade doesn't work under salary cap rules. Artest and thomas only make like 7 mil a piece this year.
If we trade for Artest I'll hope for the best, but if we don't I won't be upset. It's a toss up what it would do to or for the Cavs.

I wouldn't trade with the Kings if my life was depending on it...

We weren't taking Kenny Thomas with Bibby (who we needed and wanted)---We sure as hell are probably not taking Thomas for a guy who plays a position that arguably the game's best player plays at...

Id rather have Artest than Bibby.

Not interested.

Thomas is a scrub. Our young bigs are better than him and he is under contract for 3 years. In-addition, Ron Artest, although a great player, is a trouble-maker, and he will want a LOT more money...in-addition, Sacramento will want a pick too.

Beside the fact that the trade isn't worth it and doesnt work under cap-rules, we wouldn't be guaranteed to be any better. We'd be weaker at the PF position, and although Artest is an improvement on Hughes for offense, Hughes knows our system, knows our players, and doesn't get into trouble.

Last thing we need is someone who may tarnish LeBron's name, or mess-up the team's chemistry.

I would have took Artest 2 years ago (while he was under contract), but now that he can opt-out without us getting anything in return... no, I think we're better-off if we wait till next year, when we have all the expiring contracts (possibly $35 million - if Varejao opts out).

The only players I'd be interested in is Jack, Andre Miller, Mike Miller, Or Lowry. The only one that I'd give-up a #1 pick for is Mike Miller, who is one of the top shooters in the league, and can play 3 positions.

Trade works just fine under "cap-rules". However If a point guard isn't coming back then the Cavs can't trade Hughes.

This trade would never happen. But you missed the reaason why, the kings WOULD NEVER ACCEPT THIS DEAL. We are happy with letting artest walk, and we would rathr have kenny thomas's deal then larry hughes.

Kings pass so easy on this.

This deal is way too much for Artest with his personal baggage and salary requirements -- let him walk.

Kings can wait for Thomas to expire too.

if i had a pen i would sign, but im not danny ferry, and i dont have a pen

Sardonic wrote:Trade works just fine under "cap-rules". However If a point guard isn't coming back then the Cavs can't trade Hughes.

I think if this trade went down giving up hughes or not gibson would have to be the pg because james and artest arent going to be able to stretch the floor

I wouldn't make this trade for 2 reasons: 1. Artest becomes a free agent, and if he'd be motivated to play in Cleveland now, then we could probably get him for the mid-level exception in the offseason. 2. Kenny Thomas is really bad. I'd rather have Larry Hughes' mediocre production/horrible contract than Kenny Thomas' scrub production/crappy contract.

I dont see how you say that at all. Im a kings fan and I hate kenny thomas as well. But kenny thomas MAKES FAR FAR FAR less then larry hughes. I consider larry hughes to be one of the top 3 contracts int he league. When yhou consider amount and what he does.

Kenny thomas at least only makes around 7 million for the same amount of years that larry hughes makes 12/13 million.

Theres no way you can sit there and try to say that hughes is a cbetter deal then thomas. It doesnt matter though theres no way the kings would do this deal.

No offense meant, but you'll have to forgive us for not trusting the opnion of King's fans when it comes to trades. Lets just say that they dont have the best track record of being correct.

bigballajohn wrote:Would anyone be interested in dealing Gooden and Hughes for Artest and Kenny Thomas?

I would pull the trigger faster than Doc Holliday. If you say "Would you be interested in trading Hughes for..." I say YES before you finish the sentence. It could be "Would you be interested in trading Hughes for...

...Ron Artest?" - YES

...Luc Longley?" - YES

...a six-pack of Milwaukee's best and a bag of Cool Ranch Doritos?" - YES