ESPN report NJ/MIl trade

[The Genius]

stein from ESPN is reporting that the nets have traded jefferson for yi and bobby simmons. this trade could effect the proposed redd to cleveland rumors, IMO...

[DowJones]

This move is what I expected. The Nets at a young player that may or may not turn into something by 2010. Clearly the Nets are trying to dump salary to sign LeBrin in 2010.

[The Genius]

well, i could care less about what NJ is doing, in all honesty. i was more interested in whether this deal makes MIL more or less likely to trade redd now. i think a persuasive case could be made for either side of that argument, actually...

[Hydroponic3385]

I'd assume Milwaukee is not particularly looking to move Redd now. They'd have lineup of:

Bogut
CV
Jefferson
Redd
Mo / Sessions

I'd say if anything they're looking to get a PF, possibly by moving Mo. I dunno, this trade is still brand new to me but I'd guess it's much less likely the Bucks would do a Redd to Cavs trade now.

[The Genius]

maybe so, but considering that they're gonna have to pay all those guys PLUS the 8th overall pick in the draft, i'm not convinced that this deal means redd is set to stay. i think just the opposite might happen now. they get a cheaper "version" of redd in jefferson, if you will and the 8th pick in the draft. so, they move their biggest salary, redd. seems reasonable, no?

[DowJones]

Well this obviously means that getting Redd is almost impossible now. The only chance Cleveland had before was that Milwaukee was going into re-building mode, which meant Redd would come for expirings and future picks. Now there is no point for Milwaukee to do that since they won't be re-building.

Long-term, Cleveland fans should obviously keep an eye on what New Jersey is doing. Clearly they are doing anything they can in order to bring in young pieces and dump contracts in hopes of signing James. I am sure Jay-Z will try and push that as well.

Cleveland's best bet at this point is to try and build towards 2010, which means we need to make sure we don't add on too many long-term contracts. We have a chance to add a 2nd max player in addition to LeBron as things stand right now. With Redd and O'Neal out of the picture, I can't see anything else out there that immediately makes Cleveland much better. The worst we could do is to bring on some marginal player that will cut into our cap-space for 2010.

[DowJones]

maybe so, but considering that they're gonna have to pay all those guys PLUS the 8th overall pick in the draft, i'm not convinced that this deal means redd is set to stay. i think just the opposite might happen now. they get a cheaper "version" of redd in jefferson, if you will and the 8th pick in the draft. so, they move their biggest salary, redd. seems reasonable, no?

I don't agree at all. Redd and Jefferson are different players completely and they actually compliment each other well. You don't trade away youth and potential for a player like Jefferson unless you want to work with what you currently have.

[The Genius]

I don't agree at all. Redd and Jefferson are different players completely and they actually compliment each other well. You don't trade away youth and potential for a player like Jefferson unless you want to work with what you currently have.

what you say doesn't make sense to me. they traded away a guy who NEVER wanted to play there in the first place, got a fine player in return AND they have the 8th pick in the draft, so that is their "youth and potential."

i wasn't saying RJ and redd were the same player but rather that RJ's scoring could take over the hole left by redd if they were to move redd. you also cannot fail to see that MIl is a small-market team with limited potential for financial growth. i just don't see them going "all in" this season.

[DowJones]

I don't see why they did it either, but they decided to make the deal. They traded part of their future for a better player right now. That means the Bucks will not be looking to move Redd to us just for expirings and a draft pick, and that was the only chance we had to get Redd. The Nets weren't looking for someone to replace Redd, they were looking for someone to compliment him.

Unless there is a 3-team deal, our chances of landing Redd just got thrown out the window.

[The Genius]

could someone please post a breakdown of the length of each contract, both RJ's and yi's, please? also the salary for each year of said contracts? thanks!

[Baseline Runner]

Yeah I hate to say it but this kills our chances of getting Redd. And Jefferson and Redd compliment each other very well.

If any of the Bucks player get traded it will probably be Mo Williams.

[CzBoobie]

could someone please post a breakdown of the length of each contract, both RJ's and yi's, please? also the salary for each year of said contracts? thanks!

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/milwaukee.htm

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_jersey.htm

[old skool]

When Hammond took over as Bucks GM, he said that he was looking to improve the team for 2008-09.

There has never been any indication that the Bucks were looking to trade Redd for expiring contracts.

I agree that the Buck mostly likely to be trade will be Mo Williams or Charlie Villanueva. But the Bucks cannot trade either player without getting a starting PG or starting PF in return. Their roster is not deep enough to trade starters for bench players.

oLd sKool

[BrewCityBBQ]

In all honesty, and I'm not saying this to piss anyone off, but you really never had a chance of landing Michael Redd in the first place. Cleveland and Milwaukee are just not good trading partners. I'm hoping all the Redd to Cleveland rumors can just bow out gracefully now.

[lurkingobeiscity]

The Bucks aren't going to trade Redd for expirings + future assets if they just traded for Jefferson. Simple as that.

[mg]

Since I'm not a Redd fan at all I hope these rumors die too...and all the Buck fans finally leave this forum. Redd would just be a spot up 3 point shooter in the Cavs offense and he plays no defense. Yes he's an upgrade but I don't see the big deal about him.

[Wise1]

Since I'm not a Redd fan at all I hope these rumors die too...and all the Buck fans finally leave this forum. Redd would just be a spot up 3 point shooter in the Cavs offense and he plays no defense. Yes he's an upgrade but I don't see the big deal about him.

The big deal about him is adding him to your roster makes Cleveland a favorite to win the Eastern Conference.

[Serpo]

Btw i think my theory is that killing the Redd to Cleveland idea by trading RJ to Millwaukee was one of the secret motives behind just accepting an 2010 expiring and a big questionmark for the Nets .

Yeah the value wasn't really great but when you think about it it does more good for the Nets then you see when you look at it first.

[rjgraca]

Well, it could have been a secret motive (to keep Redd from the CAVs) for the Nets to make a marginal deal for RJ -- the fact remains that the Nets will have NO significant players to lure Lebron with. Redd by far is NOT the only option that the CAVs have open to them which probably make this futile Nets trade to the Bucks backfire for both teams (Nets and the Bucks). The Bucks might feel they will win big this coming season while in fact they have like 4 out of 5 of their starters being barely average at best at defense which the Celtics showed will win you that championship.

[Serpo]

The Nets weren't winning anything with RJ and paying a 2nd - 3rd option like him 15 Million a year would not have been very good anyway for the Nets .

We wanted to trade RJ for years now and position ourselfes for a bigtime free agent class . Could we have gotten more ? Maybe . Does it still archive the goal ? Indeed .

Don't see that much better moves out there considering what that move has done . Especially from a marketing point.