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I know I speak crazy but, c'mon...

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:00 pm
by eyejayem
So yes I stated earlier about the whole LA having capspace crap but Clips are in win mode while Memphis is in the same situation but is definately not winning now and has to figure out what to do. I think a trade that I'm about to list can greatly help both teams. Memphis stated they will not add any cap but are only banking on a trade for one of their PGs since they are sitting on the minimum ($44mil / 75% of the cap) but what if they had an expiring or two and a player, and picks. They can easily get something better with a combination of things than just a PG straight up since they are thin in the frontcourt.

Mem trades:

Darko Milicic(14.5 mil left on contract)
2010 Lakers 1st rd pick( would have worked better if they had 2009 2nd, but they dont have a 2nd in '09 or '10)

for

Wally Szczerbiak (13 mil exp)
Anderson Varajao (5.8 mil exp)
2009 Cleveland 1st rd pick
2009 Chicago 2nd rd pick (early 2nd)(may not need to be included)
cash(Max)

Why? Memphis stay under the cap by about 3 mil. We get them out of Darko's contract and replace him with AV who should be better and will likely start C for them with a good lineup of : AV, Warrick, Gay, Mayo, and Conley. AV is perfect because Mayo,Gay,and Warrick are scoring machines and when they went small Warrick played C when they would have worked better with a real center and didnt have faith in Darko or Kwame. Wally gives them the shooting they would miss with Mike Miller leaving. But if they are waiting for a straight trade with Lowrey or Critten(s/p) they now can combine them with either Wally for a big contract or AV for a small contract, or a pick for a straight trade. They end up paying almost exactly the same as if they kept Darko since we also send cash they just get better pieces like our 1st rder and optional 2nd which may not need to be included.

Why? Cleveland gets Darko. Who-hoo. No I'm kidding. but maybe Z can get something out of him but I dont know or care right now. We get an $11.8 mil trade exemption to throw at a player. So we now are in the running for Josh Smith( who doesnt want to play in Atl with Woodson) and he wanted 10mil to 12mil, Andre Iguodala (who sounds like he would like to stay w/ 76ers but sounds like he can be lured away for a better deal or team) and wants 11-13mil, and I'm not sure if Monte resigned yet but he is definately in the same ballpark. We can possibly get one of these teams to do a s&t so they dont fear losing their player for nothing and if we still have the exemption try to get another player or during the season use it in a straight trade for a team looking for cap relief. Plus we still have the MLE.

Re: I know I speak crazy but, c'mon...

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:07 pm
by GreenDemon
Yep your just straight crazy, why trade away our most valuable assets now for absolutly nothing. Just because we would have a trade exception doesnt mean we would want to throw money at a player cause that would hamper us in the future because even if a player demands a certain $ doesnt mean that they are worth that much. In the end ther are hundreds are better trades that we could make that would get us more then this one.


So again yes you are crazy

Re: I know I speak crazy but, c'mon...

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:21 pm
by rjgraca
Yes, this is crazy.

Varejao alone has stats as good or better than Darko Milicic -- CAVs don't need immediate cap space either and Millicic hasn't proven that much to warrant this type of move.

Re: I know I speak crazy but, c'mon...

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:30 pm
by TheOUTLAW
I wouldn't mind taking on Darko, but this trade is wholly out of line.

Re: I know I speak crazy but, c'mon...

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:22 am
by Rise Against
You are crazy.

Re: I know I speak crazy but, c'mon...

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:04 pm
by mg
No to this trade...

I will say Darko could be a good backup/future replacement for Z given the big guy's back issues. There are no other young centers on the Cavs roster especially since we all know Andy will be opting out next summer. Crittendon is the combo guard that intrigues me from Memphis. He also has the height to play SG along West and could provide perimeter defense and scoring. Not to mention the dude has a quick, nasty first step...I'd take a flier on him but wouldn't give up all the Cavs' best trade assets.

Re: I know I speak crazy but, c'mon...

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:35 pm
by DariusRickyMilesDavis
I'd move Snow's contract plus a 2nd for Darko if we had a deal involving Andy.

Re: I know I speak crazy but, c'mon...

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:40 pm
by L&H_05
Poorly executed thought..

Re: I know I speak crazy but, c'mon...

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:37 am
by NashtyNas
No, this is ridiculous. If you KNOW that memphis doesnt want to use their cap space, WHY would you suggest such a trade? Thats ridiculous. Think before you post buddy.