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MoWill will be on the books for 9.3 mil.
Boobie for 4.015.
JJ for 1.528.
Maybe Delonte for around 5.
Lebron's cap hold (I'm just estimating) around 20.

that's still only 34.843 mil.

Salary cap will probably be around 70 mil. leaves us with over 35 mil in cap space. (or 40 mil if delonte isn't here)

so we have more than enough to bring in a quality star (bosh, wade, amare, etc) and a pretty decent one (around 10 mil a year) plus some left over to fill out roster.

Yes the MoWill trade gave us a lot of salary but it still keeps the 2010 plan in tact. (Unless you were dreaming of bringing in both wade and bosh. lol)

The 2010 salary cap won't be $70 million. I think $62 million is what I heard. I am not sure about that, but I thought I read that somewhere.

I think we will fill our team out between now and then so we won't have that much cap-space left. I am hoping for something in the $12-15 million range.

oops it's 58 mil this season- i thought it was 68 mil for some reason. thanks.

say it's 62 mil. we have 34.8. that's leaves us with over 27 mil... so pretty much a max contract and then fill the roster out. still not bad if we could get amare or bosh to be our dominate bigman.

mo
west
bron
jj
bosh/amare

Not even thinking about 2010...

Want a championship in 2009..

yea and then you have to consider lebrons expiring... He bolts to europe and then we drop his contract tooo maybe we will get like josh howard or something?
post lebron cavs
pg mo
sg gibson
sfhoward
pf/jj
c/ amare
man i can't wait!!!

lol im kidding

Yeah, Mos contract really isnt that bad.
Considering in '10 he will be making around 9 mil, and west would have wanted around 7 milion, it hardly adds any more salary. (assuming west isnt on the team in 2 years).

Can someone please explain how cap holds work?
I could have sword 3 years ago during the offseason we spent all of our money of damon, hughes, and marshall, and then once we were over the cap we resigned Z. Am i mistaken?

Zero chance the Cavs have cap space in 2010 imo. They want to win now, and will make moves and signings that put cap space in 2010 well out of reach.

Even the Knicks have cap space in 2018. Doesn't mean it'll still be there in 2017.

the cap hold allows you to resign any of your own players without restrictions of the cap, like if the cavs wanted to they really could in 2010 with 30 million in cash sign bosh and wade to 15 each and still have money for lebron, but they would be 20 million over the cap and be paying 20 million in luxery tax every year , allah what the knicks have done,. But that would kill there chances of ding anything for severeal years, only being abel to use the mid level exception or trades to add players. Keep in mind you hear that we have 22 million in expiring contracts this year what we are 18 million over the cap, meaning we really only have 4 million to spend next summer so trading at the deadline is really the better way to go.

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I really don't think you are right. The Magic had to renounce their Bird rights for Darko 2 years ago to sign Lewis and I'm pretty sure the Clippers had to renounce their rights to Maggette when they signed Baron. I'm pretty sure the cap hold is something like the previous year's salary or that plus a certain percentage.

It's too early to discuss. The Cavs could add more payroll before then.

the cap hold is not what allows you to sign your own free agents.. my god where did you come up with that??

basically the cap hold is what your own free agent would count against your teams salary cap if you signed him
i.e. there would be a "hold" on the amount of money it would take for the Cavs to sign LeBron

if there was no cap hold a team could sign all the free agents it wants (up to the cap limit) and THEN re-sign its own free agents using an exception and exceed the cap

the cap hold circumvents one way of cheating the cap

LeBron's cap hold would be 150% of the previous years salary

a players cap hold no longer counts against a teams cap when their rights are renounced or they sign a new contract.. either with the current team or a new team

and when some of you calculate the free cap room with only four players on the roster you have to consider there is a roster charge and you don't have all of that room free.. you need to fill out the roster.. so consider that 11 more spots at the minimum salary is also taken and not free..

jnester71 wrote:LeBron's cap hold would be 150% of the previous years salary.

See the coon faq, question 30

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

* Not to exceed the player's maximum salary, based on years of service

The cap hold on LeBron would be 30% of the cap. Assuming our combined roster including cap holds on other players (and I think a minimum amount set aside for unfilled roster spots) is under 40% of the cap and assuming we renounce the rights to players who's contracts expire in 2010, we could then sign a second max player.

One problem is Miami projects to be in the same situation cap wise, and other teams potentially will be as well.

The other problem is that to retain that cap situation, we pretty much have to pass on using our expiring contracts to improve our roster and would go into the 2010 offseason with a minimal signed roster of gibson, hickson, mo williams, west if he doesn't take the qualifying offer and next year's draft pick.

I think we're better off to pull out the stops to win a championship (or 2) before 2010. That means taking on more salary in 2010.

The free agent "bonanza" of 2010 should impact the Cavs. Several teams are trying to shed salaries by then, leaving room for another team - like the Cavs - to jump in and sign quality players at a bargain. It certainly appears that several teams will have tons of dollars for 2010, probably driving up prices.

Another factor impacting 2010 is the competition from Europe. There is no way that the NBA allows European teams to sign major stars away because of a salary cap. The NBA will adjust the cba to allow top stars to be paid more money. That could cause so salary inflation, just like the current cba has held salaries in line.

Cleveland has some choices to make with West and Varejão. They also need to develop a strategy for the center position, as they will lose Ilgauskas and Wallace at the same time they are looking at other free agents. They can renounce the free agent rights to Wallace to release his cap hold, but they will probably want to do something with Ilguaskas.

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