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What do we do now? Where are we going? What is our Goal?

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:40 pm
by eyejayem
Ok so Delonte is now signed. and we look more complete and we have had a rather decent offseason. We have a full lineup and look poised to be good if not great and without hurting our future.

So now everyone wants upgrades at either SG and/or PF in addition to looking for a center to serve as the future replacement for Z. So who are we looking at? How much are we willing to offer? Now, trade deadline, or draft?


SG:
What we have
I think we are waiting to see if Pavs goes back to old form. Wally is not starting in the backcourt with Mo's D. It will likely turn out to be between Pavs and Kinsey but I am putting it on Pavs after a full training camp unlike last season with contract issues.

What we can look at
Only two players I can see as being our stop gap until 2010(obviously they expire by then) and are somewhat obtainable given the situation with their teams and are capable of being our #2- Mike Miller and Stephen Jackson.

If we look at a Superstar we can probably get Vince Carter or Allen Iverson but I dont like the age,contracts,etc.

On the youthful side, we can try hard to get JR Smith(unlikely now that he is signed) who would be great. I like Matrell Webster and the leap he made last year, Brandon Roy was injured the end of the season and everyone thought Aldridge and Outlaw were going to lead the team where Webster and Frye were actually the two players who hand strings of 20 pt performances. Oh and I dont care how short our PG is or how hurt he may be if the Warriors withdraw their contract to Monte we need to jump on it.


PF:
What we have
Ben Wallace should improve after a year and training camp in the system but will his slide(age) negate that. I think we need to get rid of Wallace because I would rather keep Anderson Varajao. JJ wont start for at least a year or two and thats only if he grows as much as people think barring a freak performance like Boobie his rookie year(maybe the rookie allstar game).

What we can look at
I think we need to get a low post prescence who is also smart enough to play defense in Browns system(sorry Drew). I like Chris Wilcox and think that he could definately grow and balance us out. A trio of Bron/Mo/ and Wilcox could become dangerous. Also David Lee I think could be great because he is 10 and 10 without being a real option on offense.

Superstar wise- we can possibly put a package together for Marion(which most of us is not for), I like Lamar Odom but he may cost us too much to then have to also offer him a contract, there are rumors that Utah is afraid Boozer may Boozer Utah so he may be on the block and I think as much as people may hate the idea all will be forgiven when we go to the finals, the other option Utah is thinking about is trying to get rid of AK who I think would be phenomenal moving back to PF especially in the East but his contract is tough( I only do it for Ben and 2nd), oh and Zach Randolf is a no go.

On the youthful side we can wait for JJ to develop. Another scanario was one of NJ young bigs since they are pretty stacked - Boone or Sean Williams.


Center:
What we have
Zydrunas Ilgauskas for two years. Anderson Varajao is gone at the end of the season as long as we keep Ben. Ben is not as good at center as he once was. I dont have to say anything about Lorenzen Wright.

What we can look at
Oh jeez... Eddy Curry...um... I couldnt believe someone actually had Brad Miller coming to us on the trades forum. There isnt really anything out there that makes me think they can help us now. Possibly Nesterovic.

As far as superstars go I would do anything in my power to get Chris Kaman. I think his offense, rebounding, blocking, and age fits perfect. Please no one say Shaq.

As far as youth, I know that he hasnt lived up to be a number 2 pick and he does have 5 years experience I would say Darko. He is still 23 and looking for the right system. If he doesnt work out he expires in 2010.

Re: What do we do now? Where are we going? What is our Goal?

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:46 pm
by LiquidFire
snow + 1st for Sjax
Wally + 2nd for AK

Mo Will/ Delonte
SJax/ Gibson/ Kinsley
Bron/ Pavs
AK-47/ Big Ben/ JJ/ Jackson
Big Z/ AV/ Wright

Re: What do we do now? Where are we going? What is our Goal?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:56 am
by Rise Against
I don't see why we need AK47 in our team.. He isn't physical enough to play the 4, especially not with the PFs in the East.. Save Wally's contract for another trade that will actually benefit us.

Re: What do we do now? Where are we going? What is our Goal?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:21 am
by Hydroponic3385
As of today, I'd guess a deadline trade could be something like a combo of S. Jackson/M. Miller and M. Camby/A. Harrington/B. Miller/E. Curry. Either 1 player from each group, or just 1 of those players.

Re: What do we do now? Where are we going? What is our Goal?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:31 am
by L&H_05
AK is perfect for Utah... Wally is not... Deal makes no sense for them, thus it's not going to happen..

Re: What do we do now? Where are we going? What is our Goal?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:10 am
by LiquidFire
wally is a expiring, ak is not. they need to resign boozer and okur next season and they cant with ak...

Re: What do we do now? Where are we going? What is our Goal?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:03 pm
by columbussports
cavs are in "wait and see" mode. They have questions to answer before the trade deadline, What kinda rotation will they use? how well will hickson play? Big Z or Big Ben got anything left? Andy still awful on offense? The answers dictate what we need and what we do, obviously if wallace and Z are or if hickson develops quickly then obviously we look for a legit 2, if the back court is strong then maybe we go for the best big man. Honestly, I suggest a short term fix ( less than 2 year contract) inside, helps in the case of injury and still gives cap flexibility on 2010.

Re: What do we do now? Where are we going? What is our Goal?

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:51 pm
by cavsfan_osiris
What do we do now?
Evaluate.

The Cavs have their roster set right now and they need to evaluate things as the season progresses and act accordingly based on that information by possibly making a move before the deadline. There is absolutely no urgency to do anything else right now without knowing exactly what they have.

There are too many question marks on the team as it is.

Will Sasha return to promising form or his he really one of the worse shooting guards in the NBA? Will Mo Williams/LeBron work out? Will the addition of Mo Williams' potential offense make Ben Wallace a more efficient player? Will Delonte and Mo Williams work out as a backcourt duo? Can Delonte start at SG if Wally, Sasha, Kinsey all fail? Will Boobie get his minutes? Will Big Z stay healthy? Will AV return to his form before the injuries last season?

The Cavs need answers to many of these questions before making another move.

Where are we going? What is our Goal?
NBA Championship

Re: What do we do now? Where are we going? What is our Goal?

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:57 pm
by cavsfan_osiris
LiquidFire wrote:snow + 1st for Sjax
Wally + 2nd for AK

Mo Will/ Delonte
SJax/ Gibson/ Kinsley
Bron/ Pavs
AK-47/ Big Ben/ JJ/ Jackson
Big Z/ AV/ Wright


That puts future payroll through the roof, but would be a [b]very[b] sick basketball team. They would definitely win a championship with that roster. With how much improved LeBron's defense has gotten pairing him up with AK would be nasty for opposing team's. They would be able to play half-court or get up and run with that squad also.