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Proposed 4-way for Dirk 

Post#1 » by sdg2001 » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:21 am

A pipe dream, but it makes sense for all involved: Cavs, Mavs, Blazers, Grizzlies

Cavs get: Nowitzki, Stackhouse, Frye
Mavs get: Varejao, Szczerbiak, Batum, Outlaw
Blazers get: Conley, Bass, Snow
Grizzlies get: Hickson, Rodriguez

For the sake of full disclosure, I'm a Cavs fan. I think the Cavs give up a lot, but they get a legit star and a good shot at the title. The team that gets the best player always has to over-pay -- unless it's the Lakers! The biggest concern is whether or not the Cavs would have enough defense left to beat good teams during the play-offs.

Mavs get a slew of young, quality players and Wally, who can still shoot and offers cap relief at the end of the year. Outlaw has starter potential and AV gives them an active, bog defender.

Blazers get to see if change of venue helps Conley and serviceable big in Bass. Snow becomes mentor and unofficial assistant coach to young team.

Thoughts?

Grizzlies free up starting spot for Lowry and get potential stud Hickson and serviceable guard for Conley.
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Re: Proposed 4-way for Dirk 

Post#2 » by DowJones » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:28 am

Horrible for Dallas. Cleveland would have to add in 2 first rounders at the very least and even that wouldn't be enough. It is also a very average deal for Memphis and I doubt they do it. The Blazers actually make out the best.
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Re: Proposed 4-way for Dirk 

Post#3 » by Rise Against » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:59 am

I am fine with where we are at...
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Re: Proposed 4-way for Dirk 

Post#4 » by TheOUTLAW » Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:38 am

I definitely wouldn't do it if we had to add firsts. I'm okay with it as is however
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Re: Proposed 4-way for Dirk 

Post#5 » by Roger Murdock » Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:41 pm

I would like this trade. Dirk is underrated.
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Re: Proposed 4-way for Dirk 

Post#6 » by LeQuitterNotMVP » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:41 am

TheOUTLAW wrote:I definitely wouldn't do it if we had to add firsts. I'm okay with it as is however
Oh come on. Lebron-Dirk would be unstoppable.
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Re: Proposed 4-way for Dirk 

Post#7 » by gocavs23 » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:43 am

Makes no sense for dallas...
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Re: Proposed 4-way for Dirk 

Post#8 » by realfung » Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:55 am

why for the Blazers?
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Re: Proposed 4-way for Dirk 

Post#9 » by DIRKtheGREAT » Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:14 pm

LOL. Dirk and LeBron would be the greatest 1-2 punch in NBA history but he WILL NEVER be traded from us because of his relationship with Cuban.
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Re: Proposed 4-way for Dirk 

Post#10 » by TheOGJabroni » Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:26 pm

DIRKtheGREAT wrote:LOL. Dirk and LeBron would be the greatest 1-2 punch in NBA history but he WILL NEVER be traded from us because of his relationship with Cuban.

Dude, you're joking right?

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Re: Proposed 4-way for Dirk 

Post#11 » by eyejayem » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:28 pm

I think there is only one way Dal does a one way trade and that is if they go rebuild ,lose big contracts and get expirings, with an eye on 2010. They must commit to being horrible for one year.

Dirk
Dampier
Jas Terry

for

Wally
Big Z
Mo Will
AV
JJ Hickson
1st rd pick

Cle
Delonte West/Gibson
Jason Terry/Gibson
Lebron James/Pavs
Dirk Nowitski/Wallace/James
Ben Wallace/ Dampier

Dal
Mo Williams/ Barea
Gerald Green/Wally
Josh Howard/Wally
Brandon Bass/AV/Hickson
Zydrunas Ilgauskas/Diop

In 2010 Dallas goes after Bosh or Amare or if they want 2009 and try for Boozer,Marion,or Odom I think they would take Snow and some stuff instead of Z.

But even this is unlikely.
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Re: Proposed 4-way for Dirk 

Post#12 » by MHZ » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:38 pm

There's no reason for Dallas to do this. The "young talent" doesn't really exist here in the sense of giving up an all-star with the unique abilities that Dirk has.
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Re: Proposed 4-way for Dirk 

Post#13 » by rjgraca » Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:49 am

IMO, Dirk is not under rated -- not when you are a former MVP.

It's kind of early in the season to talk about trading for Dirk. He's leveled off, but he is still a great talent who is nearing the edge of his prime. He's played very uninspired basketball so far this season which shows in the Mavs 2 wins and 7 losses. I don't see the CAVs trading two first round picks for him either unless the CAVs are trading mostly expiring like the Lakers did for Gasol, but I don't expect that kind of gift.

Someone please refresh my memory of a team with young players to trade for Dirk and would be in the position to compete for a championship after the trade which Dirk would want -- I can't think of one. Dirk is 30 years old and 3 years removed from his MVP season which doesn't mean that he still has the same value as he had when he was the MVP. I am not sure adding more teams into the trade mix makes a trade for Dirk happen either.

Dirk follows Shaq's lead, sort of announces retirement date

With three years left on his contract, Dirk Nowitzki is already considering hanging up his Nikes in 2011 after 14 seasons, at the age of 33. Via Z, here's Dirk in a Q&A with the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram: "I think the worst thing that athletes can do is play too long and at the end look slow and don't look right and they lose some of their reputation. I want to play when it's fun, but when I have to get up in the morning, everything hurts and I have to go to work, if that's my mentality, then I'd rather quit and do something else." And on negotiating an extension: "I don't want to commit until I'm 35, 36 or whatever and then I really don't want to play that long. But, saying that now, I really don't know. I think everything's kind of out in the open."

http://www.streetball.com/profiles/blog ... t%3A373390




The Dallas Mavericks are 2-6 to start the new season. It’s too early to write what should be a quality team off, but so far they’re a mess.

Dirk Nowitzki is scoring 22.1 points per game but not shooting well, and not doing much else aside from scoring.

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=2362




But the rest of the NBA has certainly figured them out. Put your best defender, whether he's big or small, on Dirk Nowitzki. Hound him as much as you can. And sooner or later, the Mavericks wilt.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... a5e08.html





After consecutive first-round exits and an MVP award that many experts have questioned, Dirk certainly has reason to be motivated. The only problem is that the motivation has yet to show up in his play this season.

Dirk has already called out his teammates, and said he must do a better job of preparing them, but the best way for him to do so is through his play.

He must be more aggressive in driving to the basket, attacking the paint, and getting to the line.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8181 ... icks-panic

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