T-Mac?Cavs

[The Magic Man]

Rumors are that the Cavs and Rockets have discussed a deal that would send T-Mac to the Cavs for Wally and some other players.Would you welcome T-Mac to this team and do you think he could fit in with this team.I think it would be a huge gamble if we brought in T-Mac,would he and Lebron co-exist,we would have the most talented lineup in the league if he were on our team.

pg:Williams
sg:T-Mac
sf:Lebron
pf:Wallace
c:Big Z

This lineup would matchup well with the Celtics lineup and it would be interesting ECF matchup.

I would take this gamble,at the most we would lose Wally's contract.

[Da_James_Gang]

Nothing to that rumor, there was a trade made up on a blog and thats where the writer got his info. He said he would'nt be surprised if we talked, meaning we never talked.

[Rise Against]

Do you have a link or source that isn't Hoops Hype?

[Benedict_Boozer]

I would hesitate pulling the trigger on that deal. I like Tmac and he would be a good 2nd/3rd option guy but he might be done with all his injuries.

[The Magic Man]

Do you have a link or source that isn't Hoops Hype?

Hoopsworld

[bcortell]

I think there's nothing to the rumor. And a guy who works for the Cavs says that he thinks it's too big a gamble to take (something like 45 mil left on his contract).. so I don't think it will ever happen either. But personally, I would take the gamble. At worst we lose Wally and at best we get an All-Star. Of course, I don't pay the bills, so handing out 40+ mil to a guy who can't get on the floor probably wouldn't fly to well.

[RevMan26]

Yeah, I don't know. He is constantly injured and sometimes inconsistent. It would be a huge gamble.

[boshjonesford]

oh man i hate T-mac so much this season he is big chucker, a guy that has to take alot of shoots to score, he also gets injured every other day and his defense is getting worst, Cavs are on roll so i dont expect them do make a move untill and if they start lossing but i would rather same that money for next summer and sign a guy like bozer.

[vct33]

but i would rather same that money for next summer and sign a guy like bozer.

That's not an option. The Cavs can't improve through free agency because they will be over the cap. The only way they can get a big time player is via trade.

[bcortell]

More proof that we will be over the cap http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... aliers.jsp

So please to the couple guys who think we can sign a guy this summer besides our MLE, BAE, or Vet min--- Stop it!

[DowJones]

This is a deal that would be made near the trade deadline. I don't really see the downside for us.

1. I think we would actually get Wally back. He would take a buy-out and then re-sign with Cleveland....just what Dice did with Detroit.

2. T-Mac will be an "expiring contract" next year. So even if he is a bust, we can move him for something valuable next year.

The odds are that TMac gets healthy and is similar to what he was last year...which is a true playmaker. A guy who averaged 22 points and 6 assists per game. Playing next to Bron would make life so much easier for T-Mac and it would allow Bron to be the "defensive stopper" we need because he wouldn't have to expend as much energy on the offensive side of the ball.

[bcortell]

Dow- I don't know how you think the odds are that TMac returns to form.. And any deal that would have AV going out without a big coming back (the trade from the Trade board) is a no go.. Joe Smith can't make up for loosing AV. Also, you're not paying the bills so it's easy to say yeah let's do that trade but the risk involved with taking on TMac and him not returning to form is a difference of about 40 mil (or more) next year.. (That's if we let wally expire. TMAC's contract plus his lux tax) 40+ mil for a guy who might not come back to where he was is a huge risk that most GM's wouldn't do. With that said.. If the deal was Wally and snow (and a 1st or 2nd) for TMac- I would do it.. (I'm not paying the bills either lol) but if it had AV or hickson in it.. I would say no.

[zol2332]

We can not afford to lose anybody from the front court right now. However, if a deal is being discussed such as Wally, Snow, and a 1st, I would jump through a hoop to get it to go down. T-Mac wants a championship so bad he can taste it. He's in tears every time his teams go down in the first round. Yes, injury is an issue with him. However, he will only play 30 minutes per game here, maybe less in the regular season to get healthy, more in the playoffs. He is just 29, although he seems to be 35. I think he could blossom defensively, and T-Mac has never been called a bad teammate. When I say blossom, I mean above average team defense. Scoring wise, if he could get us 16-19 per game with Mo getting 15-17, we would be unstoppable. And as someone has said, LeBron could focus more on shutting down the other team's best scorer, especially in the postseason.

[DowJones]

Dow- I don't know how you think the odds are that TMac returns to form.. And any deal that would have AV going out without a big coming back (the trade from the Trade board) is a no go.. Joe Smith can't make up for loosing AV. Also, you're not paying the bills so it's easy to say yeah let's do that trade but the risk involved with taking on TMac and him not returning to form is a difference of about 40 mil (or more) next year.. (That's if we let wally expire. TMAC's contract plus his lux tax) 40+ mil for a guy who might not come back to where he was is a huge risk that most GM's wouldn't do. With that said.. If the deal was Wally and snow (and a 1st or 2nd) for TMac- I would do it.. (I'm not paying the bills either lol) but if it had AV or hickson in it.. I would say no.

I am not buying this "Varejao is untouchable" stuff. I didn;t buy it when you guys were trying to sell it earlier and I don't buy it now. I am not saying to dump him asap...just that I don't think he is untouchable. I do agree with you about a backup big. That would obviously need to be resolved.

As for the bills, you are correct. I fully understand the money aspect of it. However it is worth noting that TMac has only 1 year remaining on his contract...after this year of course. You are correct that it would be a 40+ million dollar gamble if we would have let Wally walk anyway, but at least it isn't a player with a multi-year deal.

I would obviously hope that Andy wouldn't be part of any deal. Hell, maybe the Rockets just want to dump TMac for picks and cap relief so they can go after a Carlos Boozer in 2009. It would certainly make sense for Houston. I don't think Houston really wants AV as well.

How great would it be if it were something like Wally/2 future 1st rounders/Filler for TMac? That is a deal you can't pass up unless TMac's health is too bad or you can't afford it financially.

[bcortell]

Dow- I don't know how you think the odds are that TMac returns to form.. And any deal that would have AV going out without a big coming back (the trade from the Trade board) is a no go.. Joe Smith can't make up for loosing AV. Also, you're not paying the bills so it's easy to say yeah let's do that trade but the risk involved with taking on TMac and him not returning to form is a difference of about 40 mil (or more) next year.. (That's if we let wally expire. TMAC's contract plus his lux tax) 40+ mil for a guy who might not come back to where he was is a huge risk that most GM's wouldn't do. With that said.. If the deal was Wally and snow (and a 1st or 2nd) for TMac- I would do it.. (I'm not paying the bills either lol) but if it had AV or hickson in it.. I would say no.

I am not buying this "Varejao is untouchable" stuff. I didn;t buy it when you guys were trying to sell it earlier and I don't buy it now. I am not saying to dump him asap...just that I don't think he is untouchable. I do agree with you about a backup big. That would obviously need to be resolved.

As for the bills, you are correct. I fully understand the money aspect of it. However it is worth noting that TMac has only 1 year remaining on his contract...after this year of course. You are correct that it would be a 40+ million dollar gamble if we would have let Wally walk anyway, but at least it isn't a player with a multi-year deal.

I would obviously hope that Andy wouldn't be part of any deal. Hell, maybe the Rockets just want to dump TMac for picks and cap relief so they can go after a Carlos Boozer in 2009. It would certainly make sense for Houston. I don't think Houston really wants AV as well.

How great would it be if it were something like Wally/2 future 1st rounders/Filler for TMac? That is a deal you can't pass up unless TMac's health is too bad or you can't afford it financially.

I think AV is more untouchable than people think.. Imagine if we didn't have AV right now.. that puts a ton of minutes to JJ, Jackson, and Wright or more minutes being sent Ben's and Z's way.. neither scenario's are good for us. I haven't looked into if Z is playing tonight or not but imagine if he wasn't and we didn't have AV... there's 96 minutes between PF and C.. I'll give LBJ 8 of those for Small ball purposes. Ben 30 (which is more than he should get).. There's 38; that leaves 58 minutes between JJ, Darnell, and Wright. Oh god that would be awful. That's how important AV is.. and we're only a quarter the way through the season.

I would do Wally/Snow (or Pavs)/ 09 1st for TMAC. Anything more I would say no. If they demanded AV, I would need Scola back. They would decline that, IMO.