4 team trade?
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:13 pm
After reading Hoopsworld and a couple of other publications, I came-up with this 4-team trade. First let me state the background:
Dallas: They want Corey Maggette in the worst way. The Warriors would love nothing more than to send him to the Mavericks. The problem is that unless Dallas wants to give-up Josh Howard, they have nobody in the same salary range that they are willing to unload except Dampier... And the Warriors want nothing to do with that contract, which still has 3 years on it.
Goldenstate: They want to dump Maggette on somebody, and try something else next summer. Maggette is not working well with Jackson. Capt Jack is also a possibility to get shipped, as he has requested a trade. However, I believe GoldenState would MUCH rather send Maggette out than Jackson, who is the team Captain.... although, that wouldnt stop them from dumping him for an expiring contract.
Portland: They want an experienced point guard who can lead the team into the playoffs. Blake has played well, but he doesn't have the leadership skills and experience that the Blazers are craving from a PG.
Cleveland: The Cavs have a couple of areas they could shore-up. A wing-player with size, who can hit a shot, and is a good defender, and a big man who can defend and score in the post.
The Trade:
Cavaliers get: Channing Frye, Travis Outlaw and Ronny Turiaf
(they lose: Wally Szczerbiak, Tarence Kinsey)
Portland gets: Jason Kidd
(they lose: Raef LaFrentz, Steve Blake, Channing Frye, Travis Outlaw)
Golden State gets: Raef LaFrentz, Tarence Kinsey
(they lose: Corey Maggette, Ronny Turiaf)
Dallas gets: Wally Szczerbiak, Corey Maggette, Steve Blake
(they lose: Jason Kidd)
Why each team would make this trade:
Dallas - The Mavericks regret trading for Jason Kidd, as it has ruined their roster. They dont have the young talent that invigorates a club, and they dealt both of their picks with Harris, so they don't have much to look forward to in the immediate future either. Dallas will be admitting that the trade was a bad one by trading Kidd, but if they dont make this trade, thy have no chance at getting talent or competing in the post-season. Wally Szczerbiak gives them a bench guy who can hit the three, and who can play PF in a small-ball line-up. He is expiring, so if he doesnt work, it is no big deal. Steve Blake has put-up better numbers than Kidd, and has about a 17 PER... so he can run the point with Terry and Jose without a hitch. Dallas' big prize is getting Corey Maggette, who they have been trying to get ever since he became available.
Portland : Portland gets "exactly" what is was looking for in this trade. They wanted an experienced point to mentor their young point guards, and to lead the team to the post-season. They traded their 3rd-string PF, their back-up SF, and an expiring contract to get this done. The reason they ultimately do this, is that Jason Kidd can be used for the season, then he is done... subtracting 21million from Portland's payroll next year.
Golden State The warriors get a free-pass here. They get a "do-over". Basically they get bailed-out of their bad summer. The money they have available plus their young talent, a high draft pick... it all equals a happy Warrior front-office.
Cleveland The Cavaliers needed some depth in the front court. They would have preferred Ike Diogu as opposed to Frye, but they'll accept the package for Wally and Kinsey. Turiaf and Frye will split time as the #4 off the bench and provide insurance against injuries to either Zydrunas of Ben. Travis Outlaw replaces everything that Wally did, but does it all better. He is bigger, a better shooter, and a MUCH better defender. Outlaw could possibly be signed to an extension over the summer by the Cavs if this deal were to take place.
For the Cavaliers... A lot of people will be worried that having the extra BIGS will impede the development of D-Block and JJ... But I highly doubt that. The minutes that they currently get...they will continue to get. Frye and Turiaf will be used as situational big-men... who can spell Ben Wallace when he is looking a bit slow. Frye is a good offensive threat, so he can be some instant offense. The end-games, where the Cavs lead by a lot... those minutes will still goto Jackson & Hickson. The One player that will lose minutes, is Wright. But I don't think Wright will mind...and neither will most Cavs fans.
(link to trade: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3045~831~429~1994~2754~454~2015~497~2789&teams=9~6~22~6~5~9~5~6~5&te=&cash= )
Dallas: They want Corey Maggette in the worst way. The Warriors would love nothing more than to send him to the Mavericks. The problem is that unless Dallas wants to give-up Josh Howard, they have nobody in the same salary range that they are willing to unload except Dampier... And the Warriors want nothing to do with that contract, which still has 3 years on it.
Goldenstate: They want to dump Maggette on somebody, and try something else next summer. Maggette is not working well with Jackson. Capt Jack is also a possibility to get shipped, as he has requested a trade. However, I believe GoldenState would MUCH rather send Maggette out than Jackson, who is the team Captain.... although, that wouldnt stop them from dumping him for an expiring contract.
Portland: They want an experienced point guard who can lead the team into the playoffs. Blake has played well, but he doesn't have the leadership skills and experience that the Blazers are craving from a PG.
Cleveland: The Cavs have a couple of areas they could shore-up. A wing-player with size, who can hit a shot, and is a good defender, and a big man who can defend and score in the post.
The Trade:
Cavaliers get: Channing Frye, Travis Outlaw and Ronny Turiaf
(they lose: Wally Szczerbiak, Tarence Kinsey)
Portland gets: Jason Kidd
(they lose: Raef LaFrentz, Steve Blake, Channing Frye, Travis Outlaw)
Golden State gets: Raef LaFrentz, Tarence Kinsey
(they lose: Corey Maggette, Ronny Turiaf)
Dallas gets: Wally Szczerbiak, Corey Maggette, Steve Blake
(they lose: Jason Kidd)
Why each team would make this trade:
Dallas - The Mavericks regret trading for Jason Kidd, as it has ruined their roster. They dont have the young talent that invigorates a club, and they dealt both of their picks with Harris, so they don't have much to look forward to in the immediate future either. Dallas will be admitting that the trade was a bad one by trading Kidd, but if they dont make this trade, thy have no chance at getting talent or competing in the post-season. Wally Szczerbiak gives them a bench guy who can hit the three, and who can play PF in a small-ball line-up. He is expiring, so if he doesnt work, it is no big deal. Steve Blake has put-up better numbers than Kidd, and has about a 17 PER... so he can run the point with Terry and Jose without a hitch. Dallas' big prize is getting Corey Maggette, who they have been trying to get ever since he became available.
Portland : Portland gets "exactly" what is was looking for in this trade. They wanted an experienced point to mentor their young point guards, and to lead the team to the post-season. They traded their 3rd-string PF, their back-up SF, and an expiring contract to get this done. The reason they ultimately do this, is that Jason Kidd can be used for the season, then he is done... subtracting 21million from Portland's payroll next year.
Golden State The warriors get a free-pass here. They get a "do-over". Basically they get bailed-out of their bad summer. The money they have available plus their young talent, a high draft pick... it all equals a happy Warrior front-office.
Cleveland The Cavaliers needed some depth in the front court. They would have preferred Ike Diogu as opposed to Frye, but they'll accept the package for Wally and Kinsey. Turiaf and Frye will split time as the #4 off the bench and provide insurance against injuries to either Zydrunas of Ben. Travis Outlaw replaces everything that Wally did, but does it all better. He is bigger, a better shooter, and a MUCH better defender. Outlaw could possibly be signed to an extension over the summer by the Cavs if this deal were to take place.
For the Cavaliers... A lot of people will be worried that having the extra BIGS will impede the development of D-Block and JJ... But I highly doubt that. The minutes that they currently get...they will continue to get. Frye and Turiaf will be used as situational big-men... who can spell Ben Wallace when he is looking a bit slow. Frye is a good offensive threat, so he can be some instant offense. The end-games, where the Cavs lead by a lot... those minutes will still goto Jackson & Hickson. The One player that will lose minutes, is Wright. But I don't think Wright will mind...and neither will most Cavs fans.
(link to trade: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3045~831~429~1994~2754~454~2015~497~2789&teams=9~6~22~6~5~9~5~6~5&te=&cash= )