DAVID LEE

UNCLE SCOTT · Post #1 » by **UNCLE SCOTT** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 12:57 am

espn says that lee might settle for bae. We could at least give him mle. He would be a fantastic compliment to shaq and lebron.

DowJones · Post #2 » by **DowJones** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 1:14 am

If we strike out on everyone else I would be completely ok with offering him a 2 year deal worth the MLE and seeing if New York would match. They probably would, but imo letting him sign for the BAE would be great for the Knicks and if we could mess up their plans then fantastic. Plus I am sure that David would sign for 2 years at the MLE as opposed to signing 1 year at the BAE.

JDaWg1000 · Post #3 » by **JDaWg1000** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 1:15 am

he might settle for it but NY would match the BAEeasily being hes a restricted free agent. however NY might not match the MLE

UNCLE SCOTT · Post #4 » by **UNCLE SCOTT** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 1:21 am

Sorry i didnt know that he was restricted that changes everything especially since the knicks didnt get kidd

Post #5 » by **Rise Against** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 1:51 am

Yep. New York will easily match that offer.

Benedict_Boozer · Post #6 » by **Benedict_Boozer** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 2:00 am

NY will match it, even an MLE offer. They could deal him afterwards if they wanted to have the cap room.

JDaWg1000 · Post #7 » by **JDaWg1000** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 2:08 am

im actually surprised the has been no news of anyone pursing him and Nate as well, i mean Gortat got a offer from the Mavs, but neither one of those 2

Niko23 · Post #8 » by **Niko23** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 3:05 am

David Lee = 4 pts 5 rebounds in the first 3 quarters. 4th quarter when they are getting destroyed = 14pts 9 rebounds against third string scrubs

Post #9 » by **Rise Against** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 4:24 am

Niko23 wrote:David Lee = 4 pts 5 rebounds in the first 3 quarters. 4th quarter when they are getting destroyed = 14pts 9 rebounds against third string scrubs

Very true. He is a bit of a stat padder if you ask me.

YouthMovement · Post #10 » by **YouthMovement** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 5:49 am

Not at all, he averaged 19 and 13 in January and February respectively. He also averaged 10+ rebounds each month, and had a string of 24 consecutive double doubles. stat padder?

Post #11 » by **moocow007** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 6:12 am

JDaWg1000 wrote:im actually surprised the has been no news of anyone pursing him and Nate as well, i mean Gortat got a offer from the Mavs, but neither one of those 2

Part of the reason is that indications were strong that the Magic would not match any sizeable offer for Gortat while NY would for both players if they were not offered something overwhelming. Even for teams that may have had the capspace and were thinking of giving Lee something in the $9 million per range (front loaded if you want) for example, the danger is that NY will wait the full 7 days before deciding and, in the process, prevent that team from making an offering to another free agent.

And yes, definitely if Lee and his agent were crazy enough to sign an offer sheet for the MLE (forget just the BAE) NY would match immediately and then look to deal Lee (who will be a huge discount at the MLE) before the deadline for something more than they probably otherwise would not be able to get in a sign-and-trade scenario.

Same goes for Robinson. NY will most definitely match a BAE based offer to Robinson and probably also will consider doing so for an MLE based contract.

Post #12 » by **moocow007** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 6:28 am

Niko23 wrote:David Lee = 4 pts 5 rebounds in the first 3 quarters. 4th quarter when they are getting destroyed = 14pts 9 rebounds against third string scrubs

http://www.82games.com/0809/QTR4S0.HTM
^^
Nice stats place, you guys should use it BEFORE making statements like this.

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David Lee - 2008-2009 stats by quarter

Quarter Fga Fg% Fta Ft% Pts Reb Ast T/o Blk Stl
1st 4.2 .557 1.0 67% 5.4 3.7 0.7 0.5 0.0 0.3
2nd 2.3 .514 0.8 81% 3.0 2.4 0.4 0.4 0.0 0.2
3rd 3.1 .564 1.3 77% 4.5 3.1 0.7 0.5 0.1 0.3
4th 2.2 .562 1.0 75% 3.3 2.7 0.4 0.4 0.1 0.2

Or to simplify

Quarter Fga Fg% Fta Ft% Pts Reb Ast T/o Blk Stl
1st-3rd 9.6 .547 3.1 74% 12.9 9.2 1.8 1.4 0.1 0.8
4th 2.2 .562 1.0 75% 3.3 2.7 0.4 0.4 0.1 0.2

Or another simplified way is his best quarters are actually the 1st and 3rd quarters when most every team has their starters in for the majority of the quarter.

Post #13 » by **moocow007** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 6:42 am

Comparatively here's Mo Williams per quarter stats (assuming that in most games the Cavs were usually well in the lead and opposing teams were throwing in scrubs in the 4th).

Mo Williams - 2008-2009 stats by quarter

Quarter Fga Fg% Fta Ft% Pts Reb Ast T/o Stl
1st 3.2 .448 0.5 89% 3.7 0.7 1.1 0.5 0.2
2nd 4.0 .511 0.7 94% 5.3 0.9 1.1 0.7 0.2
3rd 3.1 .441 0.4 90% 3.8 0.7 0.8 0.5 0.2
4th 3.7 .463 1.3 89% 5.2 1.1 1.1 0.5 0.2

Interesting that Mo Williams actually did much better in the 2nd and especially 4th quarters where the likelihood of bench players being out there for opposing teams are more prevalent.

kingtyon · Post #14 » by **kingtyon** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 6:50 am

You guys forget that his points stats depend on how many touches and minutes he gets in each quater. If the gaurds don't get him the ball or coach dont call plays for him or give hime minutes, then how is he supposed to score. But Lee has alot of potential and he get better every year. He would fit right in with the cavs if he played D. He is a much better player than Andy.

wallsfamily · Post #15 » by **wallsfamily** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 12:38 pm

thanks for setting the record straight. Lee would give us an athlete who has a nose for the ball. I think that getting him would allow Shaq to thrive and make us an even better rebounding team. 16 a nd 11 is a great number with very little plays called for him. Isn't that close to Boozers final numbers with the Cavs.

UNCLE SCOTT · Post #16 » by **UNCLE SCOTT** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 12:43 pm

The reason mo scores all his points in the second is cuz that's when the cave rest lebron. I think we should get a tall athletic good defending guard and then put mp on the bench for instant offense kind of like jet terry. Aging west at the 1 gives us size in the backcourt then all we need is a 4

TaxI · Post #17 » by **TaxI** » Tue Jul 7, 2009 7:25 pm

moocow007 wrote:Comparatively here's Mo Williams per quarter stats (assuming that in most games the Cavs were usually well in the lead and opposing teams were throwing in scrubs in the 4th).

Mo Williams - 2008-2009 stats by quarter

Quarter Fga Fg% Fta Ft% Pts Reb Ast T/o Stl
1st 3.2 .448 0.5 89% 3.7 0.7 1.1 0.5 0.2
2nd 4.0 .511 0.7 94% 5.3 0.9 1.1 0.7 0.2
3rd 3.1 .441 0.4 90% 3.8 0.7 0.8 0.5 0.2
4th 3.7 .463 1.3 89% 5.2 1.1 1.1 0.5 0.2

Interesting that Mo Williams actually did much better in the 2nd and especially 4th quarters where the likelihood of bench players being out there for opposing teams are more prevalent.

what are you talking about moocow?clearly, mo stats are clutch. :lol:

Awoooga · Post #18 » by **Awoooga** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 1:27 am

David Lee is not going to Cleveland for Midlevel money. If you want him, can work out a S/T but you will not offer us anything we want so doubtful.

bcortell · Post #19 » by **bcortell** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:08 am

No interest in David Lee.

Post #20 » by **moocow007** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:08 am

TaxI wrote:
moocow007 wrote:Comparatively here's Mo Williams per quarter stats (assuming that in most games the Cavs were usually well in the lead and opposing teams were throwing in scrubs in the 4th).

Mo Williams - 2008-2009 stats by quarter

Quarter Fga Fg% Fta Ft% Pts Reb Ast T/o Stl
1st 3.2 .448 0.5 89% 3.7 0.7 1.1 0.5 0.2
2nd 4.0 .511 0.7 94% 5.3 0.9 1.1 0.7 0.2
3rd 3.1 .441 0.4 90% 3.8 0.7 0.8 0.5 0.2
4th 3.7 .463 1.3 89% 5.2 1.1 1.1 0.5 0.2

Interesting that Mo Williams actually did much better in the 2nd and especially 4th quarters where the likelihood of bench players being out there for opposing teams are more prevalent.
what are you talking about moocow?clearly, mo stats are clutch.

And I'm sure if you asked Mo he'd guarantee it too. :lol: