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David West? 

Post#1 » by Cavsman11 » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:37 pm

With all of us thinking we need to upgrade the PF how about a trade for David West?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=nrrcgg

Cavs trade - Z, Kinsey

Hornets trade - West, Posey, MoPete

Hornets get Z's 11.8M expiring and Kinsey's contract isnt fully guaranteed. Hornets do this to save money and dont have to resign West to big money or let him walk next summer. We get a 20/10 guy in West but have to take on the contracts of Posey 3 yrs left and MoPete 2 yrs left but get an All-Star PF. Our lineup looks like this

Mo/Gibson/West
West/Parker/MoPete
Lebron/Moon/Posey
West/AV/Hickson
Shaq/Av

Thats 12 active players and looks like a pretty sick team on paper and West's outside game would complement Shaq really well.

Hickson, Kinsey for West also works but I didnt think the Hornets would take that but if they did we would be even better because we could keep Z and not have a log jam at the 2 and 3. Thoughts?
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Re: David West? 

Post#2 » by Gordon Bombay » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:55 pm

cant see the hornets doing that
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Post#3 » by Cavsman11 » Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:09 pm

They get out of alot of money which is what they want to do and if their thinking about trading CP3 for cap space then I think they will trade West for Cap Space. Posey and MoPete arent doing anything down there to make the hornets want to keep them and there only in there to make the money work and when you look at the contracts, 3 yrs left for Posey (6M) 2 for Mopete (6M) this deal saves them tons of cash not only this year but for 3 years and they dont lose West for nothing next summer.
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Post#4 » by Benedict_Boozer » Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:24 pm

I thought about this. NO has like the highest payroll in the NBA, or literally one of the top 3-5 highest payrolls? Given how desperate they were to dump Chandler and their owner being a known tight wad I'd imagine they will look to dump some salary if it becomes clear they aren't contending.

I think we would have to give up more. Z's expiring, Hickson, possibly even West to get the deal done.

That's alot to give up but I'd consider it depending on what other salary we had to take on.
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Post#5 » by Niko23 » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:29 pm

Man BB you and I see eye to eye.......I read the thread and was like there is no way they consider this unless we give them Z, Hickson, and West........then scrolled down and read your post

I doubt they would trade him he his great.
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Post#6 » by Cavsman11 » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:33 pm

Cavs trade - Z, Hickson, Kinsey

Hornets trade - West, Posey, Daniels

Hornets get 11.8m off in Z, good prospect in Hickson, Kinsey not fully guaranteed contract. With us throwing in Hickson we take back Daniels (1 yr left) instead of MoPete (2 yrs left) and still take on Posey's 2 yr deal and get West and All-Star PF.
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Post#7 » by yungal07 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:08 am

There are about 28 other teams that could make a better offer than that. Feel free to try again.
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Post#8 » by eyejayem » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:38 am

I think they could do a straight Boozer trade for that, and then NO would do a Chandler for a deal around Camby before they do this. But if we do a Hickson, Green and 1st with Cash to cover Z's contract then maybe. but they could still do the Boozer Camby thing and come out on top.
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Post#9 » by Benedict_Boozer » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:29 am

eyejayem wrote:I think they could do a straight Boozer trade for that, and then NO would do a Chandler for a deal around Camby before they do this. But if we do a Hickson, Green and 1st with Cash to cover Z's contract then maybe. but they could still do the Boozer Camby thing and come out on top.


Yeah but Utah doesn't want to take on any more salary in a trade. I doubt they would want to take on West having just paid Milsap huge money.

There are teams who might want West who can make better offers, but there may not be many teams who want to take on West AND a number of other bad contracts in this economy. That would have to be our edge in a deal with them.
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Post#10 » by eyejayem » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:01 am

But they may want us to take on Stojakovic or Mo Pete with him. And then try to trade the other with Chandler. That is the only way they go into firesale mode. If they cant do that, then the CP3 trade rumors wil become true.

I may be willing to take on one of those. Stojakovic will be a killer off the bench and let Lebron slide to the 4 But for his salary I dont know. He becomes the second coming of Wally but he will make the defenses stay honest against Lebron and Shaq. Wow. A lineup of Shaq/West/Lebron/ Stojokovic/MO offensively would be too sick.

Or if we are totally giving up on 2010 cap, why not a Shaq/Hickson/1st for Chandler/West combo. Then NO does a CP3/Stojakovic/Mo pete or Posey for TMac/Brooks/1st/ filler. They will practically clean cap for 2010 and ready to start over. I dont know my mind is jumbled and I am speaking out my butt. I am so tired. Please take this with a grain of salt. Will read bashing tomorrow. lol.
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Re: David West? 

Post#11 » by Manny Phresh » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:52 am

yungal07 wrote:There are about 28 other teams that could make a better offer than that. Feel free to try again.


If that was the case... A deal would have already happened by now :noway: :nonono:
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Post#12 » by yungal07 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:53 am

Manny Phresh wrote:
yungal07 wrote:There are about 28 other teams that could make a better offer than that. Feel free to try again.


If that was the case... A deal would have already happened by now :noway: :nonono:


huh? just because every other team in the nba can offer more doesn't mean the hornets have to accept. i don't see where you're getting at...
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Post#13 » by L&H_05 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:52 am

yungal07 wrote:There are about 28 other teams that could make a better offer than that. Feel free to try again.
Ah man, now this thread smells like Wizard fan...

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Post#14 » by Benedict_Boozer » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:35 am

yungal07 wrote:
Manny Phresh wrote:
yungal07 wrote:There are about 28 other teams that could make a better offer than that. Feel free to try again.


If that was the case... A deal would have already happened by now :noway: :nonono:


huh? just because every other team in the nba can offer more doesn't mean the hornets have to accept. i don't see where you're getting at...


I think if NO wanted to deal with us, it would be not because we're offering the best package, but because we are willing to take on crap contracts other teams wouldn't. Most teams outside of the elite are in cost cutting mode.
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Post#15 » by Cavsman11 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:06 pm

[quote] I think if NO wanted to deal with us, it would be not because we're offering the best package, but because we are willing to take on crap contracts other teams wouldn't. Most teams outside of the elite are in cost cutting mode. [quote]

Exactly, that is the whole value for the Hornets in this trade if they dont want to cut salary then this makes no sense for them but they do and in the first trade and second we take on Posey with 3 yrs left 6M and in the first we take Posey and MoPete (2 yrs 6M) back so we take back two of their worse contracts back in the trade which is why this makes sense for them. Personally I like what one of you said about adding Hickson in that way we dont have to take MoPete back but Daniels instead who is a 6M expiring and for those of you who say they wont trade there backup PG, they drafted Collison to be that guy so they dont need Daniels anymore.
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Re: David West? 

Post#16 » by tidho » Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:37 pm

That would be a Gasol-esque gift. C'mon Stern, make it happen!, lol.
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Post#17 » by Amon_Ones88 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:44 pm

I would think if you thre in Cash and A couple first rounders David West would be easy to get. I mean Z and cash to buy him out means we are throwing around 10 million at them to clear their cap space. And the get to keep CP3 which they were considering moving. Plus all the potential of JJ who for all we know could be better than West in four years, we just need someone now. Then they buy out Z and we resign him...I think this is totally a legit idea and is something thta I have faith in Ferry to be looking at. But at all costs I want to kepp Delonte. It is not his numbers that are valuable to us, its the way he plays. The steals the rebouds for a little guy the hustle the humor the toughness. When he went out for those 20-some odd games the team was different. Yeah they still won a lot but there was less enthusiasm and we seemed softer all around. So if you can keep West then do the trade.
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Post#18 » by tidho » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:35 pm

I'd give up Delonte in a second to get David West.
...Hickson, Z, and a 1st too. Wouldn't even thing twice about it, we can find another combo guard.

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