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guys, just posted this on our (bulls) board...please feel free to jump over there and join the debate! while you're there we got one going on the "top 10 player" list of all time!!!! chime in on that one too please!

just kinda cruising the net here and something came to me. how do people (some do!) compare who's better, mj or kobe...take a look at this. michael has a season and a half over him (actually 124 games) at this point but still???

points: michael/32292-kobe/23820 (mj +8472) kobe would have to average 68.3 ppg in the next 124.
rebounds: michael/6672-kobe/5019 (mj +1653) kobe would have to average 13.3 rpg in the next 124.
assits: michael/5633-kobe/4401 (mj +1232) kobe would have to average 9.9 apg in the next 124.
steals: michael/2514-kobe/1441 (mj +1073) kobe would have to average 8.6 spg in the next 124.
blocks: michael/893-kobe/544 (mj +349) kobe would have to average 2.8 bpg in the next 124.

career fg%: michael/49.7%-kobe/45.5%

(assuming mj & kobe take same amount of shots in same amount of games...)

kobe has to shoot 61.7% from the field in his next 6375 shots (and maintain that fg% for approx 4 seasons provided kobe attempts 20 fga/g) just to match jordan's career fg%.

turnovers: michael/2924-kobe-2752 (mj avg-2.7/to gm---kobe avg 2.9/to gm)
kobe would have to average 1.2 to/gm (150 total turnovers) in the next 124 to match mj's 2.7 avg

to be totally fair kobe does edge out mj in 3fg% (34.1% to 32.7%) and ft% (84% to 83.5%)

rings: michael/6-kobe/4
mvps: michael/5-kobe/1
finals mvps: michael/6-kobe/1
all star mvps: michael/3-kobe/3 (appearences: mj/14-kobe/11)

rookie of the year '84-85 (michael jordan) kobe(?????)
defensive player of year '87-88 (michael jordan) kobe (?????)

please don't get me started on the playoffs guys...playoffs???? you talking playoffs????? (ha, ha, ha!)

so in a nutshell...

in the next 124 games (or the next season and 3/4) kobe's line would have to look something like this...

68.3 ppg/13.3 rpg/9.9 apg/8.6 spg/2.8 bpg (61.7% fg all while averaging only 1.2 turnovers/gm.)

with all that said, i still feel kobe is a top 5 player of all time but you now see the gap between #1 and the rest huh? so to all you youngsters out there who may have michael "edging" kobe as the best ever to lace 'em up or you might honestly think kobe's the best ever????? the lesson for today is.....


PUNKS JUMP UP TO GET BEAT DOWN!!!! (sorry for the caps mods, i know i promised i'd never use "that one computer" again but i relapsed for a millisecond there.)

up next to challenge the greatest ever???? lebron...you're gonna laugh again people!

don't you ever, ever, ever, ever, ever....challenge a lion!

dont forget to post all replies on the chicago bulls board and while you're over there please weigh in on the "top 10 players" of all time post.

68.3 ppg/13.3 rpg/9.9 apg/8.6 spg/2.8 bpg (61.7% fg all while averaging only 1.2 turnovers/gm.)

Kobe could easily do that but he doesn't care about stats, he's into winning championships...

There's no real debate about who's better. Jordan is clearly the G.O.A.T. Kobe&LeBron not even close right now. But potentially LeBron is the only player who can come close to Jordan and we're expecting to witness that.

prekazi wrote:There's no real debate about who's better. Jordan is clearly the G.O.A.T. Kobe&LeBron not even close right now. But potentially LeBron is the only player who can come close to Jordan and we're expecting to witness that.

yeah. And Kobe isn't a top 5 player, actually I'd have a hard time putting him in the top 10. Anyone who tries to make the argument that Kobe is the G.O.A.T. is simply a tard Laker fan wearing his homer goggles.

But anyway, LeBron is the only player currently in the league that has a chance to become the G.O.A.T, but even that's a stretch and I personally don't think it will happen.

Triumph36 wrote:

prekazi wrote:There's no real debate about who's better. Jordan is clearly the G.O.A.T. Kobe&LeBron not even close right now. But potentially LeBron is the only player who can come close to Jordan and we're expecting to witness that.

yeah. And Kobe isn't a top 5 player, actually I'd have a hard time putting him in the top 10. Anyone who tries to make the argument that Kobe is the G.O.A.T. is simply a tard Laker fan wearing his homer goggles.

But anyway, LeBron is the only player currently in the league that has a chance to become the G.O.A.T, but even that's a stretch and I personally don't think it will happen.

Wow, even a Kobe hater wouldn't think that ! You must be something new ?

Magic... plain and simple....

SashAlex wrote:

Triumph36 wrote:

prekazi wrote:There's no real debate about who's better. Jordan is clearly the G.O.A.T. Kobe&LeBron not even close right now. But potentially LeBron is the only player who can come close to Jordan and we're expecting to witness that.

yeah. And Kobe isn't a top 5 player, actually I'd have a hard time putting him in the top 10. Anyone who tries to make the argument that Kobe is the G.O.A.T. is simply a tard Laker fan wearing his homer goggles.

But anyway, LeBron is the only player currently in the league that has a chance to become the G.O.A.T, but even that's a stretch and I personally don't think it will happen.

Wow, even a Kobe hater wouldn't think that ! You must be something new ?

And you are *no namecalling* because he was talking about all-time...

CzBron wrote:And you are *no namecalling* because he was talking about all-time...

Stop ! It's OK with the top 5, but there is definitely a place for Kobe in the TOP 10 even now, and by the end of his career he has the chance to get into the top 5 if he wins 2 more titles.

1. Magic
2. Jordan
3. Kareem
4. Wilt
5. Russell
6. Bird
7. from here on no one named is better than Kobe if you take into the account the titles and personal achievements. By the end of his career Kobe will crack the top 5.

I'm not a Kobe homer.

lol, whatever...just have fun with your misleading sig and gtfo.

SashAlex wrote:

CzBron wrote:And you are idiot because he was talking about all-time...

STFU ! It's OK with the top 5, but there is definitely a place for Kobe in the TOP 10 even now, and by the end of his career he has the chance to get into the top 5 if he wins 2 more titles.

1. Magic
2. Jordan
3. Kareem
4. Wilt
5. Russell
6. Bird
7. from here on no one named is better than Kobe if you take into the account the titles and personal achievements. By the end of his career Kobe will crack the top 5.

I'm not a Kobe homer.

Superman is not amused.

BigDaddyPR wrote:Magic... plain and simple....

SashAlex wrote:

CzBron wrote:And you are *no namecalling* because he was talking about all-time...

Stop ! It's OK with the top 5, but there is definitely a place for Kobe in the TOP 10 even now, and by the end of his career he has the chance to get into the top 5 if he wins 2 more titles.

1. Magic
2. Jordan
3. Kareem
4. Wilt
5. Russell
6. Bird
7. from here on no one named is better than Kobe if you take into the account the titles and personal achievements. By the end of his career Kobe will crack the top 5.

I'm not a Kobe homer.

duncan, robertson, o'neal? none of those guys before kobe?

SashAlex wrote:

CzBron wrote:And you are *no namecalling* because he was talking about all-time...

Stop ! It's OK with the top 5, but there is definitely a place for Kobe in the TOP 10 even now, and by the end of his career he has the chance to get into the top 5 if he wins 2 more titles.

1. Magic
2. Jordan
3. Kareem
4. Wilt
5. Russell
6. Bird
7. from here on no one named is better than Kobe if you take into the account the titles and personal achievements. By the end of his career Kobe will crack the top 5.

I'm not a Kobe homer

And why do you have that sig- it's clear he was referring to All-Time.

LEBRON JAMES!

Laker fans who think that Kobe is a better player than Shaq dont know much about the Lakers.

SashAlex wrote:

CzBron wrote:And you are *no namecalling* because he was talking about all-time...

Stop ! It's OK with the top 5, but there is definitely a place for Kobe in the TOP 10 even now, and by the end of his career he has the chance to get into the top 5 if he wins 2 more titles.

1. Magic
2. Jordan
3. Kareem
4. Wilt
5. Russell
6. Bird
7. from here on no one named is better than Kobe if you take into the account the titles and personal achievements. By the end of his career Kobe will crack the top 5.

I'm not a Kobe homer.

Magic wasn't better than MJ he even said so himself. Hell he won less and wasn't as dominant statistically and has half the accolades that MJ has.

JordansBulls wrote:

SashAlex wrote:

CzBron wrote:And you are *no namecalling* because he was talking about all-time...

Stop ! It's OK with the top 5, but there is definitely a place for Kobe in the TOP 10 even now, and by the end of his career he has the chance to get into the top 5 if he wins 2 more titles.

1. Magic
2. Jordan
3. Kareem
4. Wilt
5. Russell
6. Bird
7. from here on no one named is better than Kobe if you take into the account the titles and personal achievements. By the end of his career Kobe will crack the top 5.

I'm not a Kobe homer.

Magic wasn't better than MJ he even said so himself. Hell he won less and wasn't as dominant statistically and has half the accolades that MJ has.

But he was taller! He could play C if he wanted to!

CzBron wrote:

68.3 ppg/13.3 rpg/9.9 apg/8.6 spg/2.8 bpg (61.7% fg all while averaging only 1.2 turnovers/gm.)

Kobe could easily do that but he doesn't care about stats, he's into winning championships...

you're joking right? please tell me you could hardly type that "EASILY" line without choking from laughing. tell you what, i'll take that as "joking" and just say..."that was a good one dude!"

Attaboy!