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Re: American Family Field / MLB Stadium Discussion 

Post#21 » by Thunder Muscle » Thu May 25, 2023 2:55 am

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Interesting. Can't imagine AFF is bottom 5 in the league yet, so hard to think could force them out for awful stadium situation. With that said, upgrades are clearly needed. I'm curious to see what major renovations they would do from a fan experience side of things. Obviously Alot of it will go to roof maintenance, HVAC ****, and probably clubhouse/player facilities. I don't want to dive into politics, but hopefully can figure out a way to do the upgrades.
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Re: American Family Field / MLB Stadium Discussion 

Post#23 » by MickeyDavis » Thu May 25, 2023 3:24 am

From a fan experience I don't know what else they can do. It's perfectly fine. Watching a game now is the same as it was when it opened except the scoreboard and audio system have been upgraded. I'm sure maintenance needs to be done but they don't need to spend money on bells and whistles.
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Post#24 » by gbmb34 » Thu May 25, 2023 11:56 am

Love Kansas City. Stadium is solid and city is very similar to Milwaukee in that there is a lot of stuff to do for a mid-size city.
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Re: American Family Field / MLB Stadium Discussion 

Post#25 » by MickeyDavis » Thu May 25, 2023 1:55 pm

Some details from the JS

Here are some broad areas which make up that $448 million tab − which is the legal obligation of the Southeast Professional Baseball Park District, the state-created agency that owns the ballpark and leases it to the Brewers.

Architecture/interiors is the costliest category: $105.7 million

The most costly category of expenses is broadly classified in the reports as architecture and interiors.

That category features a wide variety of items such as replacing the stadium's glass panels beyond the outfield, seat replacements, suite upgrades, retail space improvements and concourse replacements.

That recommended work has a focus on creating new spaces for groups to congregate with additional kitchens to support those spaces.

That includes areas geared toward young adult fans to "provide a unique space for socializing while the game becomes background entertainment, rather than their primary reason for being at the Ballpark," according to a report prepared for the Brewers by Venue Solutions Group, a consulting firm based in Brentwood, Tennessee.

"The most pressing issues for the Ballpark concern its relevance in the face of changing fan demographics and how fans consume the game action, the need for new and updated social spaces, and maintaining the Ballpark as a top-tier Major League ballpark as required by the Lease," it said.

The category's cost estimate is $105.7 million, the VSG report said.

The state's consultant, Denver-based CAA Icon, estimated this cost category in a range as high as $168.7 million − a nearly 63% increase from the VSG cost estimate.

Total cost estimates vary from $428 million to $604 million

The VSG report noted the Brewers lease requires the stadium district to pay for improvements present in at least 75% of all other Major League Baseball stadiums.



The lease also says the district must replace or repair infrastructure items consistent with the replacement items of the top 25% of all MLB parks.

Those standards make it challenging to plan long-term improvements, the report said.

The CAA Icon report said VSG's approach to estimating long-term costs was "not uncommon" but also "particularly subjective in the area of Architectural and Interiors."

Another factor is the timing of the renovations. If they occur earlier in that 20-year term, they will be less expensive than if they are deferred − with the two reports making different assumptions on that issue.

CAA Icon's review said the entire renovation tab could total $540 million to $604 million. The Evers administration and the Brewers agreed to the $428 million estimate from VSG, with another $20 million to cover inflation's effects on those costs.

"We're willing to live with the lower number," said Rick Schlesinger, Brewers president of business operations.

That $448 million would be covered by the proposed $290 million payment; interest earned on that payment, which would be deposited in an escrow account operated by the stadium district, and $70 million from the stadium district's current reserve fund.

Retractable roof is a major cost driver at $37.1 million

The retractable roof was viewed as a game changer for the Brewers when the stadium, then known as Miller Park, opened in 2001.

The team's owners, then led by future Major League Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig, said having a retractable roof would ensure the Brewers would no longer have rain-outs. That would bring more ticket sales, he said, including for those fans driving longer distances to Milwaukee for overnight stays.

The ball club, which Selig sold in 2005 to a group led by Mark Attanasio, on average has been drawing roughly 1 million more fans per year compared with the team's previous home, County Stadium.

The costs for future repairs and maintenance to the roof is estimated at $37.1 million. That's according to both VSG and CAA Icon.

Technology is another big cost category--totaling $99.8 million

Another big cost category is labeled as technology − totaling $99.8 million, according to VSG.

That area features such items as the ballpark's sound system, video production and display, security cameras, broadcast equipment and an upgrade of the scoreboard LED graphics.

Structure category at $62.5 million includes parking lots, walkways

The structure category includes resurfacing American Family Field's parking lots and replacing the walkways and pedestrian plaza. Structural concrete and steel repairs ranging from low to high priority also are needed.

That category's work will eventually total $62.5 million.

Other categories include elevators, concessions totaling $123.3 million

Other broad expense categories include "vertical transportation," i.e., elevators and escalators, at $16 million; concessions infrastructure, $17 million, and mechanical, electrical, plumbing and fire protection systems, $55.8 million.

Finally, items categorized as miscellaneous add up to $34.5 million.
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Re: American Family Field / MLB Stadium Discussion 

Post#26 » by Thunder Muscle » Thu May 25, 2023 2:39 pm

gbmb34 wrote:Love Kansas City. Stadium is solid and city is very similar to Milwaukee in that there is a lot of stuff to do for a mid-size city.


Sweet. Looking forward to going as Kaufmann Stadium always looks like a nice place to watch a game. Definitely will check out some BBQ places and looks like have good brewery options. Downtown, Union Station, Money Museum etc look like decent options to check out. May try to check out Field of Dreams on the drive there or back since go through northeast Iowa.
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Re: American Family Field / MLB Stadium Discussion 

Post#27 » by Thunder Muscle » Thu May 25, 2023 2:44 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:From a fan experience I don't know what else they can do. It's perfectly fine. Watching a game now is the same as it was when it opened except the scoreboard and audio system have been upgraded. I'm sure maintenance needs to be done but they don't need to spend money on bells and whistles.


I agree. I wish somehow they could maybe open up the outfield views vs all the cluttered ads and make the glass panels see through. Although its not like the view is a skyline or anything special. But maybe would make it feel more open air. The roof makes it tough though and would not give that up.

Otherwise I agree that its a good park to watch games and amenities are solid. As mentioned, love the brewery within the park option and the RF craft beers cocktail area is cool. Be interested to hear more details on the interior and concourse updates mentioned in the article.
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Re: American Family Field / MLB Stadium Discussion 

Post#28 » by Brewster » Fri May 26, 2023 6:43 am

Kind of feels like MLB wants to to move the Brewers to a bigger city and bigger market.
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Re: American Family Field / MLB Stadium Discussion 

Post#29 » by gbmb34 » Tue May 30, 2023 11:22 am

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gbmb34 wrote:Love Kansas City. Stadium is solid and city is very similar to Milwaukee in that there is a lot of stuff to do for a mid-size city.


Sweet. Looking forward to going as Kaufmann Stadium always looks like a nice place to watch a game. Definitely will check out some BBQ places and looks like have good brewery options. Downtown, Union Station, Money Museum etc look like decent options to check out. May try to check out Field of Dreams on the drive there or back since go through northeast Iowa.


Yep plus they just re-did the airport. Another must-see is the Negro Leagues museum and the college basketball Hall of Fame was pretty cool as well.
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