2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery

[coolhandluke121]

I think it's okay to wish the Brewers had been able to acquire Naylor while simultaneously acknowledging that the price was too high. In other words, it's okay to wish that Seattle hadn't overpaid. All it takes is one impulsive team.

And while he's pretty underwhelming, it's not just about his value in the vacuum - it's about the fact that their LHB 1B's are probably negative WAR players, even in a platoon, and their RHB 1B's are not to be relied on IMO. It's potentially a pretty big lineup hole, and Naylor has pretty consistently been solid enough to be a clear upgrade. Impact is not measured in a vacuum; it's about the difference between what you have now and what you would be changing to.

On to the O'hearn watch. Can't imagine that the price will be right, but it's okay to hope so. Incidentally, he accumulated negative WAR at nearly twice the rate of Bauers through the same age, so it's not like he's a proven commodity. If he can turn his career around like this, maybe Bauers can too - but that's not something I'd bet on.

[Big Dog Yank]

And while he's pretty underwhelming, it's not just about his value in the vacuum - it's about the fact that their LHB 1B's are probably negative WAR players, even in a platoon, and their RHB 1B's are not to be relied on IMO. It's potentially a pretty big lineup hole, and Naylor has pretty consistently been solid enough to be a clear upgrade. Impact is not measured in a vacuum; it's about the difference between what you have now and what you would be changing to.

Bingo!

[ReasonablySober]

The way I look at it is Vaughn's already provided WAY more than any trade deadline 1B acquisition would be expected or even hope to. Unless someone comes extremely cheap, just go with him.

[coolhandluke121]

The way I look at it is Vaughn's already provided WAY more than any trade deadline 1B acquisition would be expected or even hope to. Unless someone comes extremely cheap, just go with him.

That's a weird way to look at it unless you have good reason to believe it's sustainable. Vaughn's first really good week in literally over 3 seasons (June of 2022) can't possibly be Plan A, and I'm sure that it's not. If given regular PA's, he'll probably negate all of that extra value within a month. I'm totally in favor of standing pat and rotating through the guys they have, but they won't base their decisions on his one great week before the break (~.500 OPS since).

[ReasonablySober]

The way I look at it is Vaughn's already provided WAY more than any trade deadline 1B acquisition would be expected or even hope to. Unless someone comes extremely cheap, just go with him.

That's a weird way to look at it unless you have good reason to believe it's sustainable. Vaughn's first really good week in literally over 3 seasons (June of 2022) can't possibly be Plan A, and I'm sure that it's not. If given regular PA's, he'll probably negate all of that extra value within a month. I'm totally in favor of standing pat and rotating through the guys they have, but they won't base their decisions on his one great week before the break (~.500 OPS since).

I think average 1B play is sustainable. It wouldn’t have been worth giving up 10-12 years of pitching for a few more hits.

[humanrefutation]

Eugenio Suarez would be a nice rental.

[Kerb Hohl]

McMahon to the Yankees...I don't think there was any sort of desire to net him at this deadline, but the name was out there. The emergence of Durbin made it so we have no use for "a slightly above replacement level guy" there and the only option would be a major-ish Suarez sort of upgrade at 3B or similar SS option.

[ReasonablySober]

#8 and #21 prospects for a guy who can't hit outside of Coors. Nicely done, Yankees.

[MickeyDavis]

$32 million over the next 2 years is nothing for the Yanks but I wouldn't want that on our limited books.

[Kerb Hohl]

#8 and #21 prospects for a guy who can't hit outside of Coors. Nicely done, Yankees.

I love the Coors->Yankee Stadium Pipeline that prolongs bad/average hitters' careers.

DJ Lemahieu is a better hitter but that short porch turned an very solid "professional hitter" into a superstar for 2 years when he was hitting a bunch of oppo homers in a good lineup.

McMahon is a good defender and that porch will make his bat look OK to the untrained eye.

[coolhandluke121]

Jeffrey Hammonds says hi. He also lived on for decades via many fans' inability to call John Hammond, John Hammond.

I remember when Matt Holliday had terrible splits away from Coors, but then he was an MVP candidate for the Cardinals. I think they were doing tons of PEDs in that late La Russa era though. Berkman, Molina, Pujols, and Holliday had really bloated skulls for a while there.

[ReasonablySober]

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He's also 6-6 and has eight RBI. Insane night.

[MikeIsGood]

6-6, 4 HR, 8 RBI is absolutely bananas.

[Matches Malone]

That was impressive!

Reminds me of the Brewer game I went to as a kid and Shawn Green hit 4 bombs against us. Everyone was in awe.