Brewers/Dodgers NLCS - Game 4 Friday - 7:38PM CST

[Ron Swanson]

Woof. Brice had been so damn clutch all season but he’s having a brutal playoffs.

[Profound23]

Then the Commanders choke against the Bears...great

[MickeyDavis]

I'm not going to 20/20 hindsight pitching after giving up 2 runs to a great offense. I guess it's easy to say when someone gives up a run that someone else should have been pitching. 2 runs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[ReginaldDwight]

I'm not going to 20/20 hindsight pitching after giving up 2 runs to a great offense. I guess it's easy to say when someone gives up a run that someone else should have been pitching. 2 runs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If Roberts just leaves Snell in the brewers go quietly into the night. Baffling call to bring your garbage bullpen into a game you dont need too. Brewers need to work the starter hard every game and get to the bullpen ASAP.

[paulpressey25]

Terrible swing by Brice there, though. How can you watch the previous ABs and then swing at that nonsense.

Our guys did their best. Brice got us the dagger HR two nights ago. When you don’t have superstars this comes with the territory.

We can play with these guys. Get em tomorrow night.

[Profound23]

I'm not going to 20/20 hindsight pitching after giving up 2 runs to a great offense. I guess it's easy to say when someone gives up a run that someone else should have been pitching. 2 runs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If Roberts just leaves Snell in the brewers go quietly into the night. Baffling call to bring your garbage bullpen into a game you dont need too. Brewers need to work the starter hard every game and get to the bullpen ASAP.

Yep, I almost turned it off until I saw that move. Oh well

[BUCKnation]

We won game 1 in a similar way back in 2018

[Matches Malone]

Why are Cubs fans even talking **** right now. Blow that city off the planet.

[Ryan5UW]

Maybe Murphy will finally get him out of the cleanup spot.

[jakecronus8]

I’ll always take a 12-2 loss over something like that.

House money feels like it got blown on one hand of blackjack.

[paulpressey25]

Why are Cubs fans even talking **** right now. Blow that city off the planet.

Screw the Cubs. I’m more worked up about $162 million dollar man Freddie Freeman doing the postgame interview and basically say “Yeah, we’re a **** great team. We’ve got this”.

[trwi7]

Looking forward to Mark keeping the payroll right around $100 million next year too.

[BUCKnation]

Maybe this will give them a bit of confidence that they wont be seeing snell for a couple more games at least

[MVP2110]

I'm predispositioned to always think the big market team is going to win in MLB. So I'm not nearly that upset tonight. It's a Disappointing loss, but Blake Snell is a 2x Cy Young winner who was absolutely on one tonight so credit to him. The pitching staff did a good job to limit the Dodgers all star lineup to 2 runs. Go get em tomorrow

[humanrefutation]

We're honestly lucky it wasn't like 6-1 (or worse). We got incredibly lucky on that DP and we would have been using guys like Anderson and Gasser had we been down by a few runs. Offense needs to get their **** together. Not scoring runs is one thing, looking completely **** helpless is another.

I would have preferred that. We ended up using a lot of our bullpen arms just to keep it close. Only good thing was perhaps some confidence building for a few pitchers.

[MickeyDavis]

Freddy had one great start and one bad start vs. the Dodgers this year. The good start was at home. Yamamoto didn't make it out of the first inning in his only start against us. He's been very good recently (2 ER in 27 September innings) but was not good in his last start against Philly. He's been better on the road than at home.

[coolhandluke121]

I'm not going to 20/20 hindsight pitching after giving up 2 runs to a great offense. I guess it's easy to say when someone gives up a run that someone else should have been pitching. 2 runs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm not complaining about the runs - I'm just really concerned about overusing the most important relievers, especially since so many of them are young guys who have never played this late in the season.

That said, the runs might have been a consequence of overuse. In game 5, Patrick was a little more wild than he's been in at least a month. That's a warning sign, and sure enough, he had more non-competitive pitches last night than he's had in quite some time. And Uribe pitching two innings with some difficulty finding the strike zone in game 5, which also portended extreme wildness last night.

What if they're not available or effective with a 1-run lead tonight? That's my concern, wasting such great arms when they needed rest in a game that was looking like an almost inevitable loss anyway.

[MickeyDavis]

Patrick threw 19 pitches. He's fine. Tomorrow is an offday. Maybe there would be a situation where he would be needed tonight, who knows. And using Megill and Uribe in a 1 run playoff game makes sense rather than putting in Anderson or Gasser just in case tonight is a close game.

I'm not in favor of saving guys for a future situation that may not happen. You play to win every game in the playoffs. I certainly don't want Gasser or Anderson in a critical situation. If Turang gets a hit no one would question the pitching. That he didn't get a hit doesn't matter (to me)

[coolhandluke121]

Patrick threw 19 pitches. He's fine. Tomorrow is an offday. Maybe there would be a situation where he would be needed tonight, who knows. And using Megill and Uribe in a 1 run playoff game makes sense rather than putting in Anderson or Gasser just in case tonight is a close game.

I'm not in favor of saving guys for a future situation that may not happen. You play to win every game in the playoffs. I certainly don't want Gasser or Anderson in a critical situation. If Turang gets a hit no one would question the pitching. That he didn't get a hit doesn't matter (to me)

You're going to have to use someone who's not your best reliever in a critical situation at several points when you play 7 games in 9 days. May as well make sure that's at a time when they need work to stay sharp and your best relievers need rest. It's not an elimination game yet; you still have to plan ahead and keep your ducks in a row at this stage of a 7-game series. Megill was fine, but they could have used Anderson or gone straight to Koenig instead of using Patrick. Koenig needed work, and Freeman was due up.

I don't agree with looking at pitch counts to assume guys are fine. They didn't look fine. Uribe basically never pitches two innings. Patrick basically never appears so often in a span of so few days - he was a starter for most of the season. It's more than just pitch counts. I have severe PTSD from Jeffress being overused so much and clearly having arm fatigue and control issues every time Greg insisted on putting him back out there despite the obvious. The fact that it was also against the Dodgers is not helping. Patrick and Uribe showed the warning signs of losing their command and laboring in game 5.

Anderson was razor-sharp against the Cubs. I don't understand the level of distrust. He needs work, and it would have been a perfect time to use him and save Patrick.

[MickeyDavis]

Pitch counts do matter. More than innings IMO. Uribe threw 22 in his 2 innings Saturday night. There was 2 times in September where he threw more than 22 pitches and next pitched on 1 day rest. And gave up no runs. In August he had a 27 pitch outing and came back the next day and gave up no runs. In July he threw 23 against the Dodgers and came back on one day rest and shut down Seattle. In May he threw 36, came back on one day rest and allowed no runs. I guess my point is he's come back from throwing that many pitches (more actually) on one day rest (or no days rest) and has been great. Every single time this season. I just don't buy in to the "it didn't work so it was the wrong move" theory. Especially when it's worked under the same situation 100% of the time this season. We'll just have to agree to disagree.