Game 65 - Brewers @ Mets 6:10 CT

[GB_Packers]

Cardinals likely to win 1-0 despite getting out hit 8-3.

[BigDee]

Well that was disappointing.


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[JimmyTheKid]

i hate our offense when Rami and Braun swing at garbage

You do realize you're talking about the FIRST PLACE Milwaukee Brewers right? This isn't the Cubs here, it's the FIRST PLACE Milwaukee Brewers.

/JimmyTheKid

What a miserable life you must lead. Brewers have been in first place for 2 months straight and your positive to negative post ratio is 5:95

Sure is entertaining though...

I also do not enjoy Braun and Ramirez swinging at pitches outside of the zone. Or Estrada serving up the long ball. I'd prefer Estrada in that long relief role where he excelled. But it doesn't make them "losers" or "POS's" when the Brewers lose. If thats the case, when the Brewers win, why do I not see players called "hero's or "kings"??? I'd say don't get too happy or sad, its a long season. But you never get happy. If the Brewers were 65-0 right now you'd be complaining about the run differential.

[Kerb Hohl]

So what happens when they are caught by the Cardinals partially because of some of these things complained about? Open season? Will Ron's fingers have slipped back to the wrong buttons he has been pushing the 2 seasons before this one?

[JimmyTheKid]

So what happens when they are caught by the Cardinals partially because of some of these things complained about? Open season? Will Ron's fingers have slipped back to the wrong buttons he has been pushing the 2 seasons before this one?

What a sad, pathetic, 'fraidy cat way to "enjoy" a baseball season. Keep expecting the worst to happen. Let me know how that works our for you.

What happens when they're NOT caught by the Cardinals and win the division? 100's and 100's of posts bashing players and coaches. Very few, if any, posts supporting and cheering players and manager. How will that look? (as if it doesn't already look ridiculously pathetic considering the team has been in first place almost the entire season)

[Kerb Hohl]

What is this, little league baseball?

I do plenty of celebrating of the players. I was driving the Khris Davis bandwagon while he was down in the dumps.

So are we allowed to retroactively bitch about Roenicke the last 2 years? He's obviously made some major changes in his style, like pouring the healthy/non-suspended juice on Braun, A-Ram, etc.

[msiris]

So what happens when they are caught by the Cardinals partially because of some of these things complained about? Open season? Will Ron's fingers have slipped back to the wrong buttons he has been pushing the 2 seasons before this one?

What a sad, pathetic, 'fraidy cat way to "enjoy" a baseball season. Keep expecting the worst to happen. Let me know how that works our for you.

What happens when they're NOT caught by the Cardinals and win the division? 100's and 100's of posts bashing players and coaches. Very few, if any, posts supporting and cheering players and manager. How will that look? (as if it doesn't already look ridiculously pathetic considering the team has been in first place almost the entire season)

So you like watching Marco serving up HR after HR? I want to win the Division, but its not going to happen with Marco on the mound.

[jr lucosa]

Jose Lima holds the NL record for HR given up in a season with 48 in 196 1/3 innings back in 2000. He had an HR9 of 2.2 that year, Marco has an HR9 of 2.3 so far this year. If RRR keeps running him out there we could be witnessing history here fellas.

[Kerb Hohl]

Just remember, it's accepted practice to hit on 19 or 20 in blackjack if it works out a few times.

[NeedsMoreCheese]

http://msn.foxsports.com/wisconsin/stor ... ets-061014

This article seems to give hope that they're at least considering a change. It also makes Marco sound like an idiot.

"I don't know. We'll have to talk about it." Brewers manager Ron Roenicke said when asked how strong Estrada's hold on a rotation spot was. "But it is concerning, because when this guy is right and he's aggressive, I know what he can do. This is a really good major-league pitcher, and he's not pitching like that."

"It was more, 'What the hell am I doing? Why did I just throw that guy three straight fastballs?' " Estrada said. "We went over the scouting report, I knew what I had to do and I didn't do it. I kept throwing fastballs for some reason. I think if I throw a good changeup there he might roll over or swing and miss. I've got to stick with my guns, my best pitch, and with bases loaded and two outs I didn't do it. I kept throwing fastballs."

[JimmyTheKid]

What is this, little league baseball?

I do plenty of celebrating of the players. I was driving the Khris Davis bandwagon while he was down in the dumps.

So are we allowed to retroactively bitch about Roenicke the last 2 years? He's obviously made some major changes in his style, like pouring the healthy/non-suspended juice on Braun, A-Ram, etc.

Retroactively bitch about Roenicke? Sure. You'll look stupid as hell but go for it. He's managed his team to the most wins in franchise history in 2011, had a meh year in 2012, lost his 3, 4, and 5 hitters for most of the season last year, and has been in 1st place pretty much all of this year. Are you familiar with the Milwaukee Brewers franchise? Its not exactly known as the most winningest. So its not like you were used to Yankees-type success pre-Roenicke. But please, bitch away. Its comedy.

[JimmyTheKid]

So what happens when they are caught by the Cardinals partially because of some of these things complained about? Open season? Will Ron's fingers have slipped back to the wrong buttons he has been pushing the 2 seasons before this one?

What a sad, pathetic, 'fraidy cat way to "enjoy" a baseball season. Keep expecting the worst to happen. Let me know how that works our for you.

What happens when they're NOT caught by the Cardinals and win the division? 100's and 100's of posts bashing players and coaches. Very few, if any, posts supporting and cheering players and manager. How will that look? (as if it doesn't already look ridiculously pathetic considering the team has been in first place almost the entire season)

So you like watching Marco serving up HR after HR? I want to win the Division, but its not going to happen with Marco on the mound.

I've stated multiple times that I'd keep Estrada in the long-relief role, but I'm sure if Jimmy Nelson was the #5 starter I'd be reading people bitching about how they'll "have to pay him a year earlier now."

[OnWISports]

I don't think any of those quotes make Marco sound like an idiot. I do think they make him sound like a guy who has lost confidence in his best pitch, his change up. I think that should be the biggest reason for change. I just have a gut feeling they will give Fiers the first shot at replacing Marco, unfortunately.

[Kerb Hohl]

Clearly Ned Yost's brilliant decisions brought the team back to relevancy.

I think you're giving the manager role too much credit in baseball.

[OnWISports]

Clearly Ned Yost's brilliant decisions brought the team back to relevancy.

I think you're giving the manager role too much credit in baseball.

And maybe you are giving too much blame on the manager role in baseball. There are so many decisions in baseball you are bound to get some wrong.

[Kerb Hohl]

I didn't bash Roenicke in this game, I was just saying that he's allowed to get some backlash from some people and it doesn't all have to be gumdrops and happiness because of the standings.

[jr lucosa]

I disagree with many moves RRR makes as they happen, I can be a passionate fan and in the heat of the moment some of his brain dead lineup choices especially piss me off. I hate seeing Overbay get as many starts as he does. I hate seeing Scooter get ALL THE STARTS at 2nd base vs righties over Rickie despite the fact that (limited numbers, but that's all we have to go off of) more than 40% of Weeks' PA's have come vs RHP and he's hitting .342/.390/.421 against them with an OPS actually slightly higher than his #'s vs lefties

Now if Overbay or Scooter come up with big plays during that game then of course I'm happy for them and am glad that the move worked out that time, but I'm not going to not criticize the manager when he does things I don't like just because we are 1st in the division. I mean, we're 18-19 since May, we aren't world beaters, and it's not like everything has been managed perfectly and we're all just a bunch of haters grasping at straws.

[OnWISports]

I guess I don't get too worked up over most decisions just because we don't have all the information the manager does. The main thing we don't know as fans, is how a player is feeling on a given day. A case of this is when the Brewers stopped using Thornburg, and many were critical of RR early on. It ended up that he was hurt and they just were not saying.

The main thing that sticks out in my mind, that we can be critical of RR for, is the bullpen fiasco in the Atlanta series. There is no excuse for not having the right guy warming up and having a pitcher come in completely cold. That is something you can be critical of him for.

[JimmyTheKid]

I disagree with many moves RRR makes as they happen, I can be a passionate fan and in the heat of the moment some of his brain dead lineup choices especially piss me off. I hate seeing Overbay get as many starts as he does. I hate seeing Scooter get ALL THE STARTS at 2nd base vs righties over Rickie despite the fact that (limited numbers, but that's all we have to go off of) more than 40% of Weeks' PA's have come vs RHP and he's hitting .342/.390/.421 against them with an OPS actually slightly higher than his #'s vs lefties

Now if Overbay or Scooter come up with big plays during that game then of course I'm happy for them and am glad that the move worked out that time, but I'm not going to not criticize the manager when he does things I don't like just because we are 1st in the division. I mean, we're 18-19 since May, we aren't world beaters, and it's not like everything has been managed perfectly and we're all just a bunch of haters grasping at straws.

Again, I don't agree with all of Roenicke's decisions or lineups either. But I'm sorry, theres no way, on any given day, that starting Overbay over Reynolds, or Scooter over Rickie, is a "brain-dead" decision. These guys are all average-at-best MLBers. Flip a freaking coin.