MUST WIN : WILL WIN

[BUCKnation]

...and then Tavares. Good lord.

[blazza18]

Goddammit Lohse you pos.

[NeedsMoreCheese]

Well that sucks

[NeedsMoreCheese]

Seriously? ?? WTF

[BigDee]

Ugh

[blazza18]

Be nice if Braun came up in a big spot and actually did something.

[NeedsMoreCheese]

Oh **** off. Keep pissing away chances

[NeedsMoreCheese]

Be nice if Braun came up in a big spot and actually did something.

To be fair he did in the first inning.

And also, even with his thumb injury and playing **** he's still better than Logan Schafer

[BUCKnation]

This guy is handing runners on a silver platter and we can't do s*** with them.

[NeedsMoreCheese]

Lol check swing double for Luc

[NeedsMoreCheese]

Well done O

[NeedsMoreCheese]

Sigh it really feels like we'll come up short tonight and not due to lack of opportunities

[BUCKnation]

Sigh it really feels like we'll come up short tonight and not due to lack of opportunities

We can't do anything with 2 outs.

[NeedsMoreCheese]

Well done Rickie, now make it mean something tonight boys

[NeedsMoreCheese]

Sucks that the games we've lost this series we had a ton of chances. What a waste

[trwi7]

Lohse is crap.

[StillABucksFan]

I think Lohse got overworked earlier in the season, and most of the bullpen guys who didn't already suck.

[coolhandluke121]

I think Lohse is just Lohse. His career ERA+ is 98, but for some reason people here act like he's a stud. He's been good for Milwaukee and his experience has helped him become a better pitcher, but he's still Kyle Lohse and 2 good years does not trump 10 mediocre ones.

If it seems like I'm annoyed, it's because I have suggested trading Lohse and Gallardo on several occasions and people acted like the idea was ridiculous. But it was based on what you could reasonably expect them to do the rest of the season and on what their trade value was, not based on what they did in the first 3 months of the season. If you expected them to hold their ERAs around 3 all year, I think you were being a bit delusional.

For once, let some other team be left holding the bag on a player that you're holding on to for too long. Every time your refuse to trade a solid-but-unspectacular veteran for a good prospect, that's just as bad as trading a good prospect for a veteran in my book. The net result is the same.

And this team in general has shown an inability to realistically assess its overall talent level. Every single year, it's like "we can make the playoffs if everything goes right" but it's only once in a blue moon that everything does. It happened in 2011, but we do we have to show for 10 years of "win now" other than that? We had more valuable veterans than the Cubs and could have easily reloaded even more impressively than they did if Mark A. wasn't so hyper-competitive.

Ditto Melvin. The larger issue with him is that he doesn't seem to value defense or platoons at all, and has a tendency to build ridiculously imbalanced lineups. RR doesn't seem to have a clue about fundamentals. The base-running mistakes they make are inexcusable and are sufficient grounds in and of themselves for firing him. I'm not even sure I like this team half the time. I'd like them more if they were 10 games under .500 but were building a more promising future, one where you can still a playoff contender even if a few guys get hurt and you don't have a bunch of different guys having career years.

[BuckFan25226]

I think Lohse is just Lohse. His career ERA+ is 98, but for some reason people here act like he's a stud. He's been good for Milwaukee and his experience has helped him become a better pitcher, but he's still Kyle Lohse and 2 good years does not trump 10 mediocre ones.

If it seems like I'm annoyed, it's because I have suggested trading Lohse and Gallardo on several occasions and people acted like the idea was ridiculous. But it was based on what you could reasonably expect them to do the rest of the season and on what their trade value was, not based on what they did in the first 3 months of the season. If you expected them to hold their ERAs around 3 all year, I think you were being a bit delusional.

For once, let some other team be left holding the bag on a player that you're holding on to for too long. Every time your refuse to trade a solid-but-unspectacular veteran for a good prospect, that's just as bad as trading a good prospect for a veteran in my book. The net result is the same.

And this team in general has shown an inability to realistically assess its overall talent level. Every single year, it's like "we can make the playoffs if everything goes right" but it's only once in a blue moon that everything does. It happened in 2011, but we do we have to show for 10 years of "win now" other than that? We had more valuable veterans than the Cubs and could have easily reloaded even more impressively than they did if Mark A. wasn't so hyper-competitive.

Ditto Melvin. The larger issue with him is that he doesn't seem to value defense or platoons at all, and has a tendency to build ridiculously imbalanced lineups. RR doesn't seem to have a clue about fundamentals. The base-running mistakes they make are inexcusable and are sufficient grounds in and of themselves for firing him. I'm not even sure I like this team half the time. I'd like them more if they were 10 games under .500 but were building a more promising future, one where you can still a playoff contender even if a few guys get hurt and you don't have a bunch of different guys having career years.

This is why the Cardinals never offered him multiple years. They offered him 1 year, 10 million I believe. They knew he wouldn't be able to sustain what he did in 11' and 12', which were by far the 2 best years of his career under the tutelage of Dave Duncan. He also bottoms out in the postseason. He is a very good middle to back end guy of a good rotation, but he is anything but a stopper. To his credit though, I can't think of a pitcher improving so much as a starter this late in their career. Even as bad as he's been lately, he's still had a very good year.