Vargus + out fielder for something?

Nowak008 · Post #1 » by **Nowak008** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:51 am

Since Yo probably won't be sent down anytime soon, and when cappy comes back we will have too many starting pichers. Dealing Vargus would get us way more then Bush back in a trade and Bush is a fine #5 starter. Even though Gwynn was sent down we still have a crowded out feild.

What should we go after? What could we get for Vargus and Gwynn?

Jimmy Gobble is a lefty we could add to our pen. What can you guys come up with?

Captain Erv · Post #2 » by **Captain Erv** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:00 am

Nowak008 wrote:Since Yo probably won't be sent down anytime soon, and when cappy comes back we will have too many starting pichers. Dealing Vargus would get us way more then Bush back in a trade and Bush is a fine #5 starter. Even though Gwynn was sent down we still have a crowded out feild.

What should we go after? What could we get for Vargus and Gwynn?

Jimmy Gobble is a lefty we could add to our pen. What can you guys come up with?

You have to remember that Gallardo is still 21. Whether or not he has been lucky in his starts, the stats say he has been a solid #4/#5 pitcher. I don't think you trade a veteran in favor of a 21-year old who is going to have his ups and downs. If we are serious about making a run, we won't be trading Vargas.

On the other hand, we do need to get rid of Mench, however his value is probably at its lowest as its been this entire year. With that said, we do need to get another lefty in the 'pen as soon as possible.

trwi7 · Post #3 » by **trwi7** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:35 am

If we could get a solid reliever that comes at a decent price and is signed for a few more years I'd be ecstatic. I'd love to see Chad Cordero in a Brewers uniform. It would take a lot more than Vargas and Gwynn but if I were Melvin I'd be inquiring about him.

livestrong4ever · Post #4 » by **livestrong4ever** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:35 am

We need to worry about getting some bull-pen help before we look for more offense.

ssssssnake · Post #5 » by **ssssssnake** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:58 am

If Gallardo stays up and pitches well and Cappy gets back, I think we'll be fine in the bullpen.

Sheets
Supan
Capuano
Gallardo
Vargas

Villenueva
Bush
Wise

Turnbow
Cordero

For the most part, I think we can get by with 10 pitchers. We do have the three below who can work when its a blowout or obvious loss but on games that are winnable. I think we have a bullpen that is deep and strong enough to compete in the playoffs.
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Capellan
Spurling
Shouse

trwi7 · Post #6 » by **trwi7** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:05 am

Only 10 pitchers? Most teams have 12 but nobody goes with 10 pitchers, that's way too low.

livestrong4ever · Post #7 » by **livestrong4ever** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:13 am

trwi7 wrote:Only 10 pitchers? Most teams have 12 but nobody goes with 10 pitchers, that's way too low.

true that. Why would we need that many bench players any how.

Ryan5UW · Post #8 » by **Ryan5UW** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:29 am

He's saying we'd have 13, but only 10 of them would be regulars. The other guys would be used for blow outs, emergencies, etc.

Ayt · Post #9 » by **Ayt** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:42 pm

I'd hope Gwynn and Vargas could catch a hell of a lot more than Jimmy Gobble. Vargas is a relatively cheap guy who you know will be a solid back of the rotation guy. Lots of teams have huge question marks at the #4 and #5 spots. If Gallardo stays in the rotation, you move the former college closer in Bush to the pen to pitch in middle relief.

If we trade for a lefty reliever, we'll give up some minor league guys like Gwynn or some of our higher ceiling prospects in the low minors.

livestrong4ever · Post #10 » by **livestrong4ever** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:54 pm

just give up gabe gross. and a pick.

Ayt · Post #11 » by **Ayt** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:56 pm

You can't trade draft picks in baseball.

livestrong4ever · Post #12 » by **livestrong4ever** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:10 am

Ayt wrote:You can't trade draft picks in baseball.

really, wow

MadCityBucky · Post #13 » by **MadCityBucky** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:01 am

if we do trade, how about a relief pitcher to replace Shouse or Spurling.

trwi7 · Post #14 » by **trwi7** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:02 am

MadCityBucky wrote:if we do trade, how about a relief pitcher to replace Shouse or Spurling.

We have Thatcher in the minors to replace Shouse as a LOOGY and Spurling I'm guessing will be DFA'd when Capuano comes back.

MadCityBucky · Post #15 » by **MadCityBucky** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:29 pm

We have Thatcher in the minors to replace Shouse as a LOOGY

But don't we want a veteran RP if we hopefully make it to the playoffs. I bet it would do wonders for his team.

trwi7 · Post #16 » by **trwi7** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:39 pm

MadCityBucky wrote:
We have Thatcher in the minors to replace Shouse as a LOOGY

But don't we want a veteran RP if we hopefully make it to the playoffs. I bet it would do wonders for his team.

Isn't Shouse a veteran? And no I don't think a veteran would make a huge difference. Talent wins bottom line, no matter how old the player is.