Marlins at Brewers Series Thread

[JimmyTheKid]

Fun series. Miami is so bad. Funny bad. Little-league-lose-a-routine-pop-up bad. Literally-kicking-the-ball-on-the-infield bad. Wonder if the Brewers and Bucks ever combined to go undefeated over a weekend before? Minimum 5 games of course.

[Turk Nowitzki]

Fun series. Miami is so bad. Funny bad. Little-league-lose-a-routine-pop-up bad. Literally-kicking-the-ball-on-the-infield bad. Wonder if the Brewers and Bucks ever combined to go undefeated over a weekend before? Minimum 5 games of course.

I've never seen a team give away two games the way Miami did in the last two games of that series. The dropped pop-up on Saturday and then the kicked ground ball combined with their LF just straight up not trying to catch a ball that gave us an insurance run on Sunday. It was embarrassing.

[Ryan5UW]

MAID ME, BITCHES.

I love that you guys are still doing this!

[HaroldinGMinor]

There are people supporting a tank? Good lord.

[trwi7]

Wasn't even a dropped pop up. It was like Dietrich was terrified he was going to run into Rojas and pulled up and then when he realized Rojas was giving way gave a half-hearted kneeling dive at the ball.

[El Duderino]

It's getting kind of sad with twirl. Been a long time since he poked his head of the weird little rabbit hole he got himself trapped in. He needs an exorcism or something. Tanking has turned into a cult-like belief in the rapture for him.

Why do you even care?

If he chooses to be pissed off or annoyed when the Brewers win instead of enjoying it, yawn.

I'm really getting into baseball more than in a long time and i love watching this Brewers team. In fact, even though the Bucks are in the playoffs, i was almost as looking forward to watching the Brewers game as i was the Bucks.

DVR's are wonderful inventions, got to watch two fun wins and man is Yelich fun to watch. My favorite Brewer, with Hadar a close second.

I care because I learned a lot from him and Wichmae about the nuances of farm systems and drafts and young players that wouldn't have otherwise been on my radar and it made me appreciate baseball more. I also like a little dissent. Unfortunately he's just stuck in a loop at this point.

There was a guy years ago on Brewerfan who's poster name i forget, but he was so bothered by the roster construction prior to the 2011 season that even though the team ended up doing better than he thought, won 90 games, and was only two games from reaching the World Series, he still couldn't let his anger go to the point that he said he couldn't enjoy any of that season, or the playoffs. It was crazy to me.

I see baseball being unique because of it's schedule. The team you cheer for plays pretty much everyday over six months. If they do well and thus are in a legit playoff chase that whole time, i get invested in the team in a way which is different than sports who play less games.

If the Brewers stay in the chase all season, i'll likely end up watching about 155 of those games given i have a DVR. If instead they were terrible like say the Reds, i might watch 20-30 full games and fast forward through the rest mainly just to watch young hitters and pitchers, with no emotional involvement on the outcome.

[coolhandluke121]

The way I see it, I'm all for scorched earth tanking and rebuilding if it maximizes your win totals over the long term, but tanking last year and the next 2 would not accomplish that. It's hard to do that much better than 86 wins, which is what they had last year and probably about what they'll have this year, with some of their best talent still not in their primes or even in the majors, in some cases.

And all that is without really compromising their future that much. Sure, the long-term expected value of better picks and more pool money is better than what they have now, but at the expense of nearly 100 wins for several years. Besides, they're currently very well-positioned to average 85-90 wins for a long, long time anyway. I'm not throwing away 25-30 wins for several years for a marginally better chance of averaging 90+ wins 5 years from now.

Bottom line, it's not worth having terrible teams for a very uncertain hope of having great teams 5 years later when you already have good teams and are pretty likely to still have good teams 5 years later. Just give yourself a chance at a wild card berth every year, with a few years of likely being better than that, appreciate the entertainment value of that (which is still what this is about for me), and you've still got about as high of a chance of winning a WS as you can ask for as a small market team.

[HaroldinGMinor]

Not to mention there are other ways of acquiring talent other than through the draft. Hell they turned Adam Lind in to Freddy Peralta.

[trwi7]

Hell they turned Adam Lind in to Freddy Peralta.

I was also one of the people helping people off the ledge when that trade happened.

[Kerb Hohl]

You can do both. I loved the Lind trade. I'm all for trading for lotto tickets, but they don't have to tank. Look, I'd have gotten on board a full tank 2-3 years ago.

That said, there is a bit of a fallacy to comforting yourself that if they'd tank, it likely will turn out like the Astros or the Cubs. You can convince yourself that you are surely right that tanking is the way to go because since it hasn't happened, you're imagining that it's a sure-fire great idea. I'm sure you consider the downside/failure in it a bit, but it is not the supremely great idea that I think you've convinced yourself of.

It would be another thing if they were consistently making stupid moves. They've made a few signings and "win now" trades, but nothing that has really been a loss trade or something that's going to tie them up financially forever. Sure, Cain may be a bit overpaid in 3 years, but they've kept the books pretty clean and won a majority of their trades and moves.