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Post#62 » by BigDee » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:21 pm

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Post#63 » by MAC1987 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:33 pm

I thought Cain left 3rd early on that SAC fly. It was a quick replay so idk for sure. That was huge though.
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Post#64 » by Bernman » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:05 pm

Counsell waits way too long to go to his bullpen when his top arms are fresh and his rotation is sub-par. Makes the bullpen revolution not turn.
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Post#65 » by bizarro » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:12 pm

Anderson gave up 2 HR. I am shocked.
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Post#66 » by Bernman » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:18 pm

Well-timed solo HR by Schoop to preclude some more well-deserved bashing at the time.
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Post#67 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:33 pm

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Post#68 » by BUCKnation » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:39 pm

So glad we didn't go after Archer
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Post#69 » by tski1972 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:28 pm

just win every series and the rest will take care of itself.
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Post#70 » by trwi7 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:26 am

Ace like performance by Archer I see.
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Post#71 » by MAC1987 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:24 am

Bernman wrote:Counsell waits way too long to go to his bullpen when his top arms are fresh and his rotation is sub-par. Makes the bullpen revolution not turn.


I do not agree. When should he have pulled Anderson? I mean he did give up back to back HRs. So the 4 runs were pretty quick.
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Post#72 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:23 pm

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Bernman wrote:Counsell waits way too long to go to his bullpen when his top arms are fresh and his rotation is sub-par. Makes the bullpen revolution not turn.


I do not agree. When should he have pulled Anderson? I mean he did give up back to back HRs. So the 4 runs were pretty quick.
Anderson is a tough guy to manage because he's generally fine until he starts giving up homers then it goes bad very quickly. People complained when he got pulled after like 75 pitches his last start.

It sure would be nice if he figured out the home run thing. I wonder if he's tipping his pitches or simply not getting good movement and doesn't throw hard enough to overcome it.

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Post#73 » by Bernman » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:03 pm

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Bernman wrote:Counsell waits way too long to go to his bullpen when his top arms are fresh and his rotation is sub-par. Makes the bullpen revolution not turn.


I do not agree. When should he have pulled Anderson? I mean he did give up back to back HRs. So the 4 runs were pretty quick.


After the double and homer were given up to make it 6-3 and you got a fresh pen that can go 4. It was clear the wheels were coming off. He didn't need to wait until they were practically off as far as the lead was concerned. Let the tying run get to the plate with a subsequent homer and single.
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Post#74 » by tski1972 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:15 pm

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Bernman wrote:Counsell waits way too long to go to his bullpen when his top arms are fresh and his rotation is sub-par. Makes the bullpen revolution not turn.


I do not agree. When should he have pulled Anderson? I mean he did give up back to back HRs. So the 4 runs were pretty quick.


After the double and homer were given up to make it 6-3 and you got a fresh pen that can go 4. It was clear the wheels were coming off. He didn't need to wait until they were practically off as far as the lead was concerned. Let the tying run get to the plate with a subsequent homer and single.


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Post#75 » by Bernman » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:24 pm

tski1972 wrote:it's like you believe a reliever can be ready to go in just 1 minute.


It was 4 batters in the inning and you should anticipate having a quick hook because the Brewers' starters have an expiration date and you should look for reasons to use the bullpen when you're up a few runs. Otherwise good chance they end up being wasted for the better part of a week. If what you're saying is true, the bullpen revolution philosophy is a myth. They aren't going to be used enough and when they are they're coming in when you already have serious problems.
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Post#76 » by MAC1987 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:48 pm

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tski1972 wrote:it's like you believe a reliever can be ready to go in just 1 minute.


It was 4 batters in the inning and you should anticipate having a quick hook because the Brewers' starters have an expiration date and you should look for reasons to use the bullpen when you're up a few runs. Otherwise good chance they end up being wasted for the better part of a week. If what you're saying is true, the bullpen revolution philosophy is a myth. They aren't going to be used enough and when they are they're coming in when you already have serious problems.


I just don't know how every single game, someone can point out an issue with the coach. It gets old. I'm sure CC wanted to pull him before that last HR he gave up. Sometimes you have to let them stay out there to try and instill some confidence.

Its "He pulled the starter to early" 1 game, the next "He didn't pull the starter early enough".

Just the other day, 15 inning game. Someone said "Should've let Jeffress pitch the 8th and Soria pitch the 9th". <---The game Soria pitched a scoreless 8th and Jeffress pitched and gave up the tying run.
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Post#77 » by tski1972 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:48 pm

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tski1972 wrote:it's like you believe a reliever can be ready to go in just 1 minute.


It was 4 batters in the inning and you should anticipate having a quick hook because the Brewers' starters have an expiration date and you should look for reasons to use the bullpen when you're up a few runs. Otherwise good chance they end up being wasted for the better part of a week. If what you're saying is true, the bullpen revolution philosophy is a myth. They aren't going to be used enough and when they are they're coming in when you already have serious problems.


I doubt any manager is anticipating his pitcher giving up 3 runs in a matter of 10 pitches.
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