2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Phelps Signed

[leroyjw10]

Let Hernan, Shaw and Albers walk.

I'd love to upgrade SS, but not sure how. Maybe give Spangenberg a run at it full time?
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Shaw has an option left. No reason to cut him loose unless they know the underlying cause for his suckitude this season & know it won't get better.
Spangenberg has played a total of 23 innings at SS and 21 of them were this season. He should be no one's starter.

Totally aware of Spangenberg's relative inexperience at SS, but could he be much worse than Arcia? Despite a reputation as a great defender, he's been no better than average among everyday SSs throughout his career. And Spangenberg's defensive numbers at short, while a small sample size, are decent.

Plus, Spangenberg has to be the better offensive option, at least enough to offset any defensive differences.

[trwi7]

Shaw has an option left. No reason to cut him loose

Other than his (at least) $4.675 million salary.

- Won't be resigned: Lyles, Gio, Albers, Ray Black

Black is under team control for almost nothing. He'll be back for at least spring training.

[humanrefutation]

Bring back Mike Fiers because he's apparently the luckiest SOB on the planet.

You're telling me that you missed this fiasco?

[ReasonablySober]

Bring back Mike Fiers because he's apparently the luckiest SOB on the planet.

You're telling me that you missed this fiasco?

I did! Holy crap!

[Kerb Hohl]

Shaw has an option left. No reason to cut him loose

Other than his (at least) $4.675 million salary.

- Won't be resigned: Lyles, Gio, Albers, Ray Black

Black is under team control for almost nothing. He'll be back for at least spring training.

I think we are now looking at hopefully a 3-year window still of Yelich and the tides are going to turn.

Previously, depth may have been a thing. Now, we probably will non-tender Shaw, maybe Nelson, spend on Mous/Grandal types, and hope the depth is filled back up. If not, Stearns will have to get creative and make some.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Bring back Mike Fiers because he's apparently the luckiest SOB on the planet.

You're telling me that you missed this fiasco?

I take offense to you calling the monkey tail a fiasco.

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[DrWood]

Totally aware of Spangenberg's relative inexperience at SS, but could he be much worse than Arcia?

Duh, yes. If you told me four years ago that Arcia would hit 15 HR in 2 of 3 seasons, I'd have guess he'd be a ++ starter SS. Obviously he crapped out for long periods of time, but he was 24 this season. If you can trade him for another buy-low candidate, or if there's a FA willing to sign on a decent contract, OK. Other than that, you don't just throw him away.

Plus, Spangenberg has to be the better offensive option, at least enough to offset any defensive differences.

You might want to look at the stats. No, Spangenberg isn't a better offensive option.

[leroyjw10]

Totally aware of Spangenberg's relative inexperience at SS, but could he be much worse than Arcia?

Duh, yes. If you told me four years ago that Arcia would hit 15 HR in 2 of 3 seasons, I'd have guess he'd be a ++ starter SS. Obviously he crapped out for long periods of time, but he was 24 this season. If you can trade him for another buy-low candidate, or if there's a FA willing to sign on a decent contract, OK. Other than that, you don't just throw him away.

Plus, Spangenberg has to be the better offensive option, at least enough to offset any defensive differences.

You might want to look at the stats. No, Spangenberg isn't a better offensive option.

Arcia's slash in 1500 ABs: .243/.292/.360/.652
Spang's slash in 1250 ABs: .256/.315/.389/.704

Spang has been better across the board. What am I missing?

[MAC1987]

Let me help. Both will be on the team. SS will not be a priority.

C?
3B?
SP?

More important. That's going to be the focus over SS.

Totally aware of Spangenberg's relative inexperience at SS, but could he be much worse than Arcia?

Duh, yes. If you told me four years ago that Arcia would hit 15 HR in 2 of 3 seasons, I'd have guess he'd be a ++ starter SS. Obviously he crapped out for long periods of time, but he was 24 this season. If you can trade him for another buy-low candidate, or if there's a FA willing to sign on a decent contract, OK. Other than that, you don't just throw him away.

Plus, Spangenberg has to be the better offensive option, at least enough to offset any defensive differences.

You might want to look at the stats. No, Spangenberg isn't a better offensive option.

Arcia's slash in 1500 ABs: .243/.292/.360/.652
Spang's slash in 1250 ABs: .256/.315/.389/.704

Spang has been better across the board. What am I missing?

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[DrWood]

Totally aware of Spangenberg's relative inexperience at SS, but could he be much worse than Arcia?

Duh, yes. If you told me four years ago that Arcia would hit 15 HR in 2 of 3 seasons, I'd have guess he'd be a ++ starter SS. Obviously he crapped out for long periods of time, but he was 24 this season. If you can trade him for another buy-low candidate, or if there's a FA willing to sign on a decent contract, OK. Other than that, you don't just throw him away.

Plus, Spangenberg has to be the better offensive option, at least enough to offset any defensive differences.

You might want to look at the stats. No, Spangenberg isn't a better offensive option.

Arcia's slash in 1500 ABs: .243/.292/.360/.652
Spang's slash in 1250 ABs: .256/.315/.389/.704

Spang has been better across the board. What am I missing?

by looking at career numbers, you are ignoring what they did last year (when then were basically equal) and putting weight on Spangenberg's best years which were 4-5 years ago.
He's fine as a 25th guy on the roster, but not as someone you want to pencil in as a starter.

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Bob Uecker is 85 years old and he still has more range as an actor than anyone in this video.

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[Iheartfootball]

Was that a mini disc player? I can't believe he's 85. Love Ueck.

[tski1972]

Is something replacing Fridays?

[crkone]

Is something replacing Fridays?

Yes but they don't know what yet.

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[trwi7]

All the more reason to shop him around and see what teams (hello, Dodgers!) will offer.

[Kerb Hohl]

All the more reason to shop him around and see what teams (hello, Dodgers!) will offer.

I think Stearns is smart and would do a decent job but the Dodgers, Rays, and Astros are 3 teams I generally would not want to trade with unless it's a Choi/Miller or Aguilar/Faria type of thing. I know that we did the Gomez for Santana/Hader/Phillips/Houser deal with them (with Stearns!) but the Astros know what they're doing.

[MickeyDavis]

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