livestrong4ever wrote:We have great talent? We have a young young offensive players. They are going to make mistakes. Jesus Christ you can't blame every **** thing on the manager when they loose.
Bullpen makes mistakes no one is perfect
OFfense players go into slumps.
But blame the manager.
Blame the manager on the offensive slump like every team goes threw, blame the manager when the bull pen blows games. Blame the manager when the starter doesn't have his stuff in a couple of his starts.
ah HA!
I was wondering what the h*ll happened to you neverstoppers. I just realized that you changed your name after looking back at the posts on this thread. You have some kind of gall repeating your standard pro-Yost bullsh*t ONCE AGAIN on this thread when you have already made essentially the same sarcastic non-argument (which can be summed up as "the manager is never to blame") 4 times or more ON THIS VERY THREAD. You are now even in the habit of repeating yourself in the SAME post-
Bullpen makes mistakes no one is perfect
OFfense players go into slumps.
Blame the manager on the offensive slump like every team goes threw, blame the manager when the bull pen blows games.
Come back when you are able to put together a coherent argument (not to mention that you should stay away until you learn to spell "through"). Look, I will give you credit for staying consistent with your opinion, but if you don't have anything new to add then you should STAY OFF this thread.
The biggest problem is I have with you though is that you hardly ever address the individual situations that I bring up as examples of Yost's missteps, and the rare times you have I have made your blind support of Yost look foolish. You say vague things like-
Bullpen makes mistakes no one is perfect
OFfense players go into slumps.
Blame the manager when the starter doesn't have his stuff in a couple of his starts.
I will attempt to say this in the nicest way possible, but
PLEASE try and get this through your thick head:
No one is criticizing Yost for the times the bullpen has made mistakes, only for specific times where it has been clear that Yost made a mistake in managing the bullpen. No one is criticizing Yost for the times the offense has gone into a slump, only for the times when Yost has mismanaged the offensive lineup. No one is criticizing Yost for the times the Starters have pitched poorly, only for the times when he did not pull a struggling starter when it was clear that the starter didn't have it and should have been pulled.
At least you were able to make one statement -albeit a generalized one- which I am able to refute. You said-
We have great talent? We have a young young offensive players. They are going to make mistakes.
While it is true that the Brewers have quite a bit of young talent, it is practically irrelevant to the Yost debate. You make it sound like you believe that being young and being good are mutually exclusive, and that veterans don't make mistakes. Remember, in our young stable of players there happens to be a front runner for ROY and a top-tier MVP candidate, and if I remember correctly the veterans on this shoddily-coached team seem to make as many or more mistakes than the youngsters do (Hall's problems hitting the cutoff and Estrada not hustling out a ground ball with the bases loaded in the late inning of a close game which resulted in a double play are just two of a myriad of such examples of veterans on this team making key mistakes). Seriously, what does having young players have to do with what we are talking about if the young players are performing just fine, and in many cases are doing better than the veterans are? You should be embarrassed for making the terrible argument that having a team of young players somehow excuses Yost from blame, and yet I must say that it is still the best argument I have heard from you. Try a little harder, OK?
BTW, as far as this load of crap goes-
Jesus Christ you can't blame every **** thing on the manager when they loose.
I don't even have to respond anew to it (other than to say you should really work on spelling easy words like "lose") because I have already answered the same thing on this thread multiple times, so I will simply pull up one of my older responses to similar drivel of yours, this is from a post I made on the 13th of June-
I wrote:No one with any sense is putting all the blame for any one loss on the shoulders of any one manager. Ned Yost, if he were to be fired, wouldn't be getting canned for causing a particular loss or losing streak. The only solid reason to have for firing any manager, in my opinion, is that he is exhibiting less-than-optimal decision making ability....
It is the managers job to play the percentages. If he shows an inability to do so to a degree that it can be said that many or most of his colleagues would have chosen differently, whether the team is winning or not, I believe that that manager should have his tenure called into question.
Get a clue, man. If you want to argue that Yost is not any worse of a manager than anyone else the Brewers could get then be my guest, but keep in mind that at this point the burden of proof weighs heavier on you than it does on me, and I will not accept posts from you which imply that no one could seriously believe that a manager can have a significant effect on the outcome of a game
and do not offer any support for that implication.
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. I'm sorry to say it, but I think you all will have to put up with my b*tching until the Brewers either go on a prolonged winning streak or they decide to fire their overmatched sorry-excuse-for-a-manager.
