2018 Brewers Discussion - Yelich Signing on Page 45

Iheartfootball · Post #1201 » by **Iheartfootball** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:34 pm

wichmae wrote:I fully think they expect Woodruff to be a key member of the rotation.

My question is, can he be relied on?

engelmartin · Post #1202 » by **engelmartin** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:37 pm

humanrefutation wrote:Waiting for more moves like

DingleJerry · Post #1203 » by **DingleJerry** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:37 pm

Iheartfootball wrote:
wichmae wrote:I fully think they expect Woodruff to be a key member of the rotation.

My question is, can he be relied on?

Of course you never know and you have to trust management a bit on an assessment. But that question would apply to any player when they come up. In his small sample to finish last year he certainly didn't seem overwhelmed and his stuff seemed solid to me. Did we really think we could rely on Anderson or Nelson going into last year? they were huge question marks. Also, keep in mind you only need to midseason with him when Nelson gets back and of course any subsequent injuries that happen.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #1204 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:48 pm

Iheartfootball wrote:
wichmae wrote:I fully think they expect Woodruff to be a key member of the rotation.

My question is, can he be relied on?

We should probably give him the necessary starts to find out. Despite me floating the idea yesterday, dealing away your 24 year old homegrown starting pitchers is a risky business for a small market team.

neiLz · Post #1205 » by **neiLz** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:54 pm

I rarely listen to local sports talk as I work from home and never drive. Today I had some errands and was pretty excited to hear some local brewers talk. Turned on Chuck and whatever that idiot is called and they were talking WRESTLING!!!!???!??!!?!?!?!? FREAKING WRESTLING... like the bella twins and john cena? wtf.

trwi7 · Post #1206 » by **trwi7** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:54 pm

engelmartin wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:Waiting for more moves like

Come on. You guys know I'm not going to be able to resist this.

nmeurett · Post #1207 » by **nmeurett** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:57 pm

ArodpwnsFavre wrote:I rarely listen to local sports talk as I work from home and never drive. Today I had some errands and was pretty excited to hear some local brewers talk. Turned on Chuck and whatever that idiot is called and they were talking WRESTLING!!!!???!??!!?!?!?!? FREAKING WRESTLING... like the bella twins and john cena? wtf.

To be fair Bart is one of the only tolerable people to listen to on that station... also they were talking brewers most of the morning and you have to split it up a bit. I have no issues with them bringing up the Royal Rumble as it is a pretty big event and MLK has always been a really big wrestling town.

Iheartfootball · Post #1208 » by **Iheartfootball** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:09 pm

DingleJerry wrote:
Iheartfootball wrote:
wichmae wrote:I fully think they expect Woodruff to be a key member of the rotation.

My question is, can he be relied on?

Of course you never know and you have to trust management a bit on an assessment. But that question would apply to any player when they come up. In his small sample to finish last year he certainly didn't seem overwhelmed and his stuff seemed solid to me. Did we really think we could rely on Anderson or Nelson going into last year? they were huge question marks. Also, keep in mind you only need to midseason with him when Nelson gets back and of course any subsequent injuries that happen.

I guess that's my point. Some pitchers are a known quantity based on historical performance. Woodruff is a rookie. Success last year could be due to teams not having much info on him.

The same goes for Anderson for me but in an opposite way. He had success last year contrary to historical performance. IS that sustainable or was it an anomaly?

I guess my main point is, I feel this staff could very well regress. If that's the case this team needs at least 2 front line pitchers. Meaning an ace or #2 at minimum to compete for a WS. Great lineups are part of the equation. I think pitching is more important.

*edit* Also, who knows when or how well Nelson will come back. To me the rotation is what needed addressing first and foremost. Not the OF.

Matches Malone · Post #1209 » by **Matches Malone** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:11 pm

nmeurett wrote:
ArodpwnsFavre wrote:I rarely listen to local sports talk as I work from home and never drive. Today I had some errands and was pretty excited to hear some local brewers talk. Turned on Chuck and whatever that idiot is called and they were talking WRESTLING!!!!???!??!!?!?!?!? FREAKING WRESTLING... like the bella twins and john cena? wtf.

To be fair Bart is one of the only tolerable people to listen to on that station... also they were talking brewers most of the morning and you have to split it up a bit. I have no issues with them bringing up the Royal Rumble as it is a pretty big event and MLK has always been a really big wrestling town.

Bart is at least better than Bill Michaels. That guy is a goof. Doesn't know a lick of basketball, always typing on his keyboard during interviews (which you can hear clear as day) and when he talks, you can hear the spit noises in his mouth. He sounds like an old woman sucking on a Werther's Original.

nmeurett · Post #1210 » by **nmeurett** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:21 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
nmeurett wrote:
ArodpwnsFavre wrote:I rarely listen to local sports talk as I work from home and never drive. Today I had some errands and was pretty excited to hear some local brewers talk. Turned on Chuck and whatever that idiot is called and they were talking WRESTLING!!!!???!??!!?!?!?!? FREAKING WRESTLING... like the bella twins and john cena? wtf.

To be fair Bart is one of the only tolerable people to listen to on that station... also they were talking brewers most of the morning and you have to split it up a bit. I have no issues with them bringing up the Royal Rumble as it is a pretty big event and MLK has always been a really big wrestling town.

Bart is at least better than Bill Michaels. That guy is a goof. Doesn't know a lick of basketball, always typing on his keyboard during interviews (which you can hear clear as day) and when he talks, you can hear the spit noises in his mouth. He sounds like an old woman sucking on a Werther's Original.

You forgot the fact that if you don't agree with his point of view your an idiot and he will just cut you off or hang up on you. The only credit I will give Bill is that he did a good job brining light and struming up support for the Bucks new arena. Other then that his show is absalute trash.

mlloyd10 · Post #1211 » by **mlloyd10** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:23 pm

Wont be surprised if we trade Santana for Prospects.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1212 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:28 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:Wont be surprised if we trade Santana for Prospects.

It wouldn't shock me with the qualifier that they only do this if they are also signing a FA starting pitcher. That way you address the rotation and restock the prospect pipeline giving yourself more ammunition to make an in-season trade.

I personally would prefer to keep Santana if they sign a P and move Braun to 1st but wouldn't kill them for the other plan.

mlloyd10 · Post #1213 » by **mlloyd10** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:32 pm

Santana/KJ Harrison for Mejia/Kipnis/Salazar

Kerb Hohl · Post #1214 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:34 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:Santana/KJ Harrison for Mejia/Kipnis/Salazar

I don't get why brewerfan is so convinced that the Indians will just throw one of the best prospects in baseball into a trade as an add-on.

Post #1215 » by **humanrefutation** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:35 pm

trwi7 wrote:
engelmartin wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:Waiting for more moves like

Come on. You guys know I'm not going to be able to resist this.

That gif is representative of the 2011 NLCS.

mlloyd10 · Post #1216 » by **mlloyd10** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:36 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:Santana/KJ Harrison for Mejia/Kipnis/Salazar

I don't get why brewerfan is so convinced that the Indians will just throw one of the best prospects in baseball into a trade as an add-on.

Who's saying its a throw in?

Santana is worth more than Kipnis/Salazar

Kerb Hohl · Post #1217 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:38 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:Santana/KJ Harrison for Mejia/Kipnis/Salazar

I don't get why brewerfan is so convinced that the Indians will just throw one of the best prospects in baseball into a trade as an add-on.

Who's saying its a throw in?

Santana is worth more than Kipnis/Salazar

Not that much more, if at all. Mejia is only going to be used in a trade to acquire an elite player. Santana is good, but Mejia would be used in getting Manny Machado (yes, even just for one year) or an ace pitcher at the deadline, one would think.

It's possible that Mejia alone is worth more than Santana.

Mejia (I think has a higher ceiling than, but I digress) has esentially the same prospect rating as Lewis Brinson right now. Let's call them even.

Say we were making a Broxton for Devon Travis trade (completely making this up) and say that one values Devon Travis as a little bit better than Broxton. "Yeah, we'll throw in Brinson to even that out." You doing that?

trwi7 · Post #1218 » by **trwi7** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:41 pm

humanrefutation wrote:That gif is representative of the 2011 NLCS.

"We're going with Marcum."

xTitan · Post #1219 » by **xTitan** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:53 pm

Don't forget the Brewers probably need at least 2 good arms In the bullpen, they lost their set up guy, who was awesome, they are basically a 2 man pen at this point, as far as guys you can count on.

Kerb Hohl · Post #1220 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:03 pm

xTitan wrote:Don't forget the Brewers probably need at least 2 good arms In the bullpen, they lost their set up guy, who was awesome, they are basically a 2 man pen at this point, as far as guys you can count on.

Barnes is good, Boone Logan is coming off injury but was signed as their LOOGY, and they have a ton of guys like Guerra and plenty of prospects where they want to limit innings this year to put in the pen at some point.

If the staff stays healthy, assuming they add 1 more starter, that means that if Nelson comes back, Woodruff may be moving there temporarily, Suter will probably be there for sure...there are a lot of reasonable options beyond the 2 studs.

I think it needs another piece but it's not that shallow.