2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery

[RaoulDuke79]

Cleveland/Detroit moved up to 12:08 tomorrow afternoon due to impending bad weather in Cleveland.

Makes sense but that would have been fun to watch in primetime on Saturday night.

Also want to give a big FU to the Padres for making me have to cheer for a NY team but it's what I gotta do...go Mets.

(seriously we cannot have a Dodgers/Yankees WS - the world is evil enough already)

[paulpressey25]

Glad these low payroll teams are still in it. Mets, Dodgers, Yankees. Well done MLB.

[ReasonablySober]

Glad these low payroll teams are still in it. Mets, Dodgers, Yankees. Well done MLB.

Mark could have afforded any of those rosters if he wanted to. He's just choosing not to.

[MVP2110]

3 of the final 4 teams being from LA & New York is so dumb

[MickeyDavis]

I didn't see Skubal imploding

[Thunder Muscle]

These last couple games been tense between Det/Cle. Tigers keep lurking but Cleveland has held off potential disaster last few innings.

[Iheartfootball]

Let’s go Cleveland. All the way.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Glad these low payroll teams are still in it. Mets, Dodgers, Yankees. Well done MLB.

MLB probably thinks it is a job well done. It's just not really a national sport anymore, so few people watch outside of their favorite team. So having the biggest markets is the only way a WS draws decent ratings.

Might be a self perpetuating problem, maybe if they actually marked and aired games of more non huge market clubs people would follow it more like a national sport.

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[msiris]

Glad these low payroll teams are still in it. Mets, Dodgers, Yankees. Well done MLB.

MLB probably thinks it is a job well done. It's just not really a national sport anymore, so few people watch outside of their favorite team. So having the biggest markets is the only way a WS draws decent ratings.

Might be a self perpetuating problem, maybe if they actually marked and aired games of more non huge market clubs people would follow it more like a national sport.

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I love the Brewers but I don't watch them that much anymore because I understand that odds are stacked against them with the way things are set up. But hey they still make money so the owner doesn't really care.

[Thunder Muscle]

I mean I do get it. A World Series with the big stars playing for Yankees, Dodgers is more exciting than casual mid to small market teams (if its not your small market team). Its kind of like the NCAA tourney. We all love upsets, but then if end up with a Final Four of a bunch of 6-12 seeds it doesn’t quite feel the same and easier to tune away. At the very least its good to have 1 in to root against.

The problem with LA is they never win it so there isnt the national vitriol built yet like the days when Yankees would pop off multiple WS. Yanks are in a drought but many still hate them and associate them with the spending even though LA is probably worse in that sense.

Yeah it sucks, but also is what it is. At least starting to see small market teams lock guys up early like Chourio, Witt Jr so can build around them for a decade. Granted there is risk in play if the guy doesn’t pan out, but is nice when they live up to the hype. Maybe that strategy will help smaller market keep core players together longer.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I mean I do get it. A World Series with the big stars playing for Yankees, Dodgers is more exciting than casual mid to small market teams (if its not your small market team). Its kind of like the NCAA tourney. We all love upsets, but then if end up with a Final Four of a bunch of 6-12 seeds it doesn’t quite feel the same and easier to tune away. At the very least its good to have 1 in to root against.

The problem with LA is they never win it so there isnt the national vitriol built yet like the days when Yankees would pop off multiple WS. Yanks are in a drought but many still hate them and associate them with the spending even though LA is probably worse in that sense.

Yeah it sucks, but also is what it is. At least starting to see small market teams lock guys up early like Chourio, Witt Jr so can build around them for a decade. Granted there is risk in play if the guy doesn’t pan out, but is nice when they live up to the hype. Maybe that strategy will help smaller market keep core players together longer.

Heck I dont even think it's about stars on these teams bringing in views all around the country. I honestly don't think it matters if it's the Brewers or Dodgers when it comes to pulling audiance outside of Milwaukee or LA. It's simply that the fans from those big markets will tune in only it their teams are in the WS and there are simply more fans in LA or NY than Milwaukee or Cleveland.

Of course there's a group of true seamheads around the country who will watch games played by teams outside their market but that group is shrinking all the time.

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[ReasonablySober]

I mean I do get it. A World Series with the big stars playing for Yankees, Dodgers is more exciting than casual mid to small market teams (if its not your small market team). Its kind of like the NCAA tourney. We all love upsets, but then if end up with a Final Four of a bunch of 6-12 seeds it doesn’t quite feel the same and easier to tune away. At the very least its good to have 1 in to root against.

The problem with LA is they never win it so there isnt the national vitriol built yet like the days when Yankees would pop off multiple WS. Yanks are in a drought but many still hate them and associate them with the spending even though LA is probably worse in that sense.

Yeah it sucks, but also is what it is. At least starting to see small market teams lock guys up early like Chourio, Witt Jr so can build around them for a decade. Granted there is risk in play if the guy doesn’t pan out, but is nice when they live up to the hype. Maybe that strategy will help smaller market keep core players together longer.

Heck I dont even think it's about stars on these teams bringing in views all around the country. I honestly don't think it matters if it's the Brewers or Dodgers when it comes to pulling audiance outside of Milwaukee or LA. It's simply that the fans from those big markets will tune in only it their teams are in the WS and there are simply more fans in LA or NY than Milwaukee or Cleveland.

Of course there's a group of true seamheads around the country who will watch games played by teams outside their market but that group is shrinking all the time.

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I just think MLB's done an absolutely atrocious job at marketing their stars. Despite being old as hell and filled with humorless guys who policed fun out of the game, baseball used to be cool. Back in the 90s you had guys with shoe deals and iconic commercials. I think I could still name mid-90s Mariners lineups 1 through 9.

The sport is still exciting as hell to watch and filled with ridiculous players, but you wouldn't ever know it because ESPN and Fox don't give a ****, and MLB has given up promoting the game.

[Thunder Muscle]

I mean I do get it. A World Series with the big stars playing for Yankees, Dodgers is more exciting than casual mid to small market teams (if its not your small market team). Its kind of like the NCAA tourney. We all love upsets, but then if end up with a Final Four of a bunch of 6-12 seeds it doesn’t quite feel the same and easier to tune away. At the very least its good to have 1 in to root against.

The problem with LA is they never win it so there isnt the national vitriol built yet like the days when Yankees would pop off multiple WS. Yanks are in a drought but many still hate them and associate them with the spending even though LA is probably worse in that sense.

Yeah it sucks, but also is what it is. At least starting to see small market teams lock guys up early like Chourio, Witt Jr so can build around them for a decade. Granted there is risk in play if the guy doesn’t pan out, but is nice when they live up to the hype. Maybe that strategy will help smaller market keep core players together longer.

Heck I dont even think it's about stars on these teams bringing in views all around the country. I honestly don't think it matters if it's the Brewers or Dodgers when it comes to pulling audiance outside of Milwaukee or LA. It's simply that the fans from those big markets will tune in only it their teams are in the WS and there are simply more fans in LA or NY than Milwaukee or Cleveland.

Of course there's a group of true seamheads around the country who will watch games played by teams outside their market but that group is shrinking all the time.

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I just think MLB's done an absolutely atrocious job at marketing their stars. Despite being old as hell and filled with humorless guys who policed fun out of the game, baseball used to be cool. Back in the 90s you had guys with shoe deals and iconic commercials. I think I could still name mid-90s Mariners lineups 1 through 9.

The sport is still exciting as hell to watch and filled with ridiculous players, but you wouldn't ever know it because ESPN and Fox don't give a ****, and MLB has given up promoting the game.

And right now is the time to jump on it. There are a ton of marketable stars. Ohtani is arguably best player ever. Tons of young guys to get behind like Judge, Witt Jr, Betts, Soto, Tatis Jr, Henderson among other talent.

Ratings and attendance are up the past couple years so there is something to build on. But I agree with the TV ****. ESPN Sunday Night Baseball has like 6 teams all season. When was the last time the Brewers were on that? Hell they even got on in the mid-90s once (Irabu game). Can’t watch Apple TV games on Friday if don’t Apple. Roku TV has games. Hell the NLCS was on FS1 last night. Kinda wild.

Feel like the game has a little positive momentum with pitch clock and young talent BUT can they get out of their own way?

[Thunder Muscle]

Cleveland holy ****! That JC Mejia for David Fry trade is not looking real good, haha!

[blazza18]

BA has been a much better national guy than he has been with the Brewers. The call on the game tying homer was as good as it gets.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I mean I do get it. A World Series with the big stars playing for Yankees, Dodgers is more exciting than casual mid to small market teams (if its not your small market team). Its kind of like the NCAA tourney. We all love upsets, but then if end up with a Final Four of a bunch of 6-12 seeds it doesn’t quite feel the same and easier to tune away. At the very least its good to have 1 in to root against.

The problem with LA is they never win it so there isnt the national vitriol built yet like the days when Yankees would pop off multiple WS. Yanks are in a drought but many still hate them and associate them with the spending even though LA is probably worse in that sense.

Yeah it sucks, but also is what it is. At least starting to see small market teams lock guys up early like Chourio, Witt Jr so can build around them for a decade. Granted there is risk in play if the guy doesn’t pan out, but is nice when they live up to the hype. Maybe that strategy will help smaller market keep core players together longer.

Heck I dont even think it's about stars on these teams bringing in views all around the country. I honestly don't think it matters if it's the Brewers or Dodgers when it comes to pulling audiance outside of Milwaukee or LA. It's simply that the fans from those big markets will tune in only it their teams are in the WS and there are simply more fans in LA or NY than Milwaukee or Cleveland.

Of course there's a group of true seamheads around the country who will watch games played by teams outside their market but that group is shrinking all the time.

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I just think MLB's done an absolutely atrocious job at marketing their stars. Despite being old as hell and filled with humorless guys who policed fun out of the game, baseball used to be cool. Back in the 90s you had guys with shoe deals and iconic commercials. I think I could still name mid-90s Mariners lineups 1 through 9.

The sport is still exciting as hell to watch and filled with ridiculous players, but you wouldn't ever know it because ESPN and Fox don't give a ****, and MLB has given up promoting the game.

MLBs abysmal marking definitely played a part. Feels like the strike that cancelled a WS and their (and the medias) idiotic handling of the steroid era where real problems.

Some also could just be natural regression. Sports rise and fall in national popularity. Boxing and horse racing were huge at one point and are now afterthoughts. The rise of the NFL to king hurt baseball but so did other minor sports gaining momentum.

Recently I think regional cable sports networks hurt baseball. They were shelling out cash to fill air time and MLB was like '**** great look how much revenue we're generating'. So I think it reduced the push for better marketing. I also think so many people cutting the cord and not having access to the games on RSNs hurt them. (NBA has the same issue with lots of potential local fans not having access to their teams games)

RSNs before they went bankrupt were to sports what Netflix was to network TV early on. A cash cow for selling rights but something that ultimately **** them.

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[ReasonablySober]

BA has been a much better national guy than he has been with the Brewers. The call on the game tying homer was as good as it gets.

I think he's as good as it gets during the regular season but there's something about meeting the moment in the postseason and goddamn does he do that here.

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[MickeyDavis]

**** the Yankees

[MVP2110]

And the final small market in the playoffs has been eliminated. We're down to two teams from New York & one from Los Angeles. This is why MLB sucks as a product. The system is rigged