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Re: 2021 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#141 » by DrWood » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:03 am

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Brewster wrote:Why are the Brewers so in love with SS and CF? Past few drafts and international signings they been targeting just those positions.


Well, it's probably a couple things. Usually, on lower levels (esp high school), a team's best position player will play at SS or CF because of how athletic you need to be to play those positions well. Also, if you can cut it at SS or CF, the Brewers know you'll be able to play any other position on the field (bar catcher and pitcher, of course).


I get this rationale, but these players also tend to be on the smaller side. I'd love to see them, every once in a while, draft a big burly power-hitting corner infielder. Maybe that's an antiquated thought process, I don't know.

They literally did that very thing this year and last.
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Re: 2021 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#142 » by Ryan5UW » Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:29 pm

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leroyjw10 wrote:I'm really excited for a potential Mitchell-Frelick-Wiemer outfield in the very near future. Speed, defense and hitting across the outfield. Really hope they can continue to progress and push Yelich to full-time DH duty, because that dude brings nothing on defense.


I think DH on a different team would be ideal long term.

Ideal would be that whatever he broke gets fixed. I'm just hoping he continues to do as well as he has since he started batting leadoff.


I'd rather see them keep their pitching intact as much as possible, which is going to be a lot more challenging with his salary staying on the books. If it comes down to that money going towards Yelich or some part/combo of Burnes, Woodruff, Hader, Williams... I move Yelich.
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Post#143 » by DrWood » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:43 pm

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I think DH on a different team would be ideal long term.

Ideal would be that whatever he broke gets fixed. I'm just hoping he continues to do as well as he has since he started batting leadoff.


I'd rather see them keep their pitching intact as much as possible, which is going to be a lot more challenging with his salary staying on the books. If it comes down to that money going towards Yelich or some part/combo of Burnes, Woodruff, Hader, Williams... I move Yelich.

The only ways to move Yelich's salary off the team are:
1) Trade him with a boatload of prospects (or, maybe Woodruff and prospects) for nothing in return (except maybe another bad contract in return).
2) Convince him to retire so he doesn't tarnish his legacy.
3) Assassinate him. I'm hoping no one wants to do that.
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Re: 2021 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#144 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:48 pm

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DrWood wrote:Ideal would be that whatever he broke gets fixed. I'm just hoping he continues to do as well as he has since he started batting leadoff.


I'd rather see them keep their pitching intact as much as possible, which is going to be a lot more challenging with his salary staying on the books. If it comes down to that money going towards Yelich or some part/combo of Burnes, Woodruff, Hader, Williams... I move Yelich.

The only ways to move Yelich's salary off the team are:
1) Trade him with a boatload of prospects (or, maybe Woodruff and prospects) for nothing in return (except maybe another bad contract in return).
2) Convince him to retire so he doesn't tarnish his legacy.
3) Assassinate him. I'm hoping no one wants to do that.


4 - Trade him and eat a boatload of his contract.
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Re: 2021 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#145 » by DrWood » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:37 pm

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I'd rather see them keep their pitching intact as much as possible, which is going to be a lot more challenging with his salary staying on the books. If it comes down to that money going towards Yelich or some part/combo of Burnes, Woodruff, Hader, Williams... I move Yelich.

The only ways to move Yelich's salary off the team are:
1) Trade him with a boatload of prospects (or, maybe Woodruff and prospects) for nothing in return (except maybe another bad contract in return).
2) Convince him to retire so he doesn't tarnish his legacy.
3) Assassinate him. I'm hoping no one wants to do that.


4 - Trade him and eat a boatload of his contract.

The only way that works is if another team values him significantly more than we do. Counting deferred money, he's making $30M a year going forward. Let's say his true value is $12M. That means we would have to pay $18M a year (for 6 years) to the team taking him.
So basically we can pay $18M too much a year to have him play for us, or we can replace him with someone else, but we'd still be paying $18M more than true value for that roster spot.
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Re: 2021 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#146 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:41 pm

DrWood wrote:
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DrWood wrote:The only ways to move Yelich's salary off the team are:
1) Trade him with a boatload of prospects (or, maybe Woodruff and prospects) for nothing in return (except maybe another bad contract in return).
2) Convince him to retire so he doesn't tarnish his legacy.
3) Assassinate him. I'm hoping no one wants to do that.


4 - Trade him and eat a boatload of his contract.

The only way that works is if another team values him significantly more than we do. Counting deferred money, he's making $30M a year going forward. Let's say his true value is $12M. That means we would have to pay $18M a year (for 6 years) to the team taking him.
So basically we can pay $18M too much a year to have him play for us, or we can replace him with someone else, but we'd still be paying $18M more than true value for that roster spot.


Yea, and that may end up making the most sense (or not eating quite that much and attaching a valuable prospect too).
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Re: 2021 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#147 » by Brewster » Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:54 am

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Brewster wrote:Why are the Brewers so in love with SS and CF? Past few drafts and international signings they been targeting just those positions.

Because if they don't stick at SS or CF they can move to 2B or LF (or 3B or RF). The best athletes play SS and CF. Athleticism helps you be a better baseball player.


Brewers need to start hitting on these positions they keep drafting, or else they're just wasting draft picks and international signings. Just for once I want us to promote position players that can start and play well. We're doing well with starting pitching, but position players in my opinion have been a major failure.
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Post#148 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:40 am

Chourio with three doubles (so far) in his first game back since the Futures.
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Post#149 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Jul 24, 2022 8:35 pm

Chourio gets the bump to high A Wisconsin. Definitely gonna make the trip over to see him.
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Post#150 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:50 pm

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He's striking out in almost half his ABs in rookie ball, but the swing looks nice.
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Post#151 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:58 pm

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Post#152 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:57 pm

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Post#155 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:23 am

The 18-year-old became the youngest player in High-A after he was promoted from Single-A Carolina on July 25. Since joining the Timber Rattlers, he has posted a .400/.435/.600 line, gone 8-for-20, and plated five runs in just five games.


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Post#158 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Aug 1, 2022 3:23 pm

Law's updated top 60 prospects are out. Brewers:

3 - Jackson Chourio, OF, Milwaukee Brewers
Previous ranking: Unranked

My No. 8 Brewers prospect coming into the season is now their No. 1, as he skipped over the Arizona Complex League and went right to A-ball as an 18-year-old and started to hit for a lot of power, slugging .600 in Low A before a promotion in late July to High A. He’s added a little bit of a stride before he swings, getting his legs more involved, but it looks like a lot of the power just comes from his wrists. He’s at least a 70 runner and a no-doubt centerfielder who gets raves from scouts for his overall feel for the game and on-field demeanor.3.

56 - Sal Frelick, OF, Milwaukee Brewers
Previous ranking: No. 88

Frelick is a no-doubt centerfielder who puts the bat on the ball a ton and has continued to make enough hard contact to profile as more than just a regular there. He might never be more than a fringy power guy, but he doesn’t have to be with his defense, speed and OBP skills. I’m a big fan of Tyler Black, the Brewers’ second pick last year, as well, but he doesn’t have Frelick’s defensive value and may end up playing multiple positions.
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Re: 2021 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#159 » by leroyjw10 » Mon Aug 1, 2022 4:20 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Law's updated top 60 prospects are out. Brewers:

3 - Jackson Chourio, OF, Milwaukee Brewers
Previous ranking: Unranked

My No. 8 Brewers prospect coming into the season is now their No. 1, as he skipped over the Arizona Complex League and went right to A-ball as an 18-year-old and started to hit for a lot of power, slugging .600 in Low A before a promotion in late July to High A. He’s added a little bit of a stride before he swings, getting his legs more involved, but it looks like a lot of the power just comes from his wrists. He’s at least a 70 runner and a no-doubt centerfielder who gets raves from scouts for his overall feel for the game and on-field demeanor.3.

56 - Sal Frelick, OF, Milwaukee Brewers
Previous ranking: No. 88

Frelick is a no-doubt centerfielder who puts the bat on the ball a ton and has continued to make enough hard contact to profile as more than just a regular there. He might never be more than a fringy power guy, but he doesn’t have to be with his defense, speed and OBP skills. I’m a big fan of Tyler Black, the Brewers’ second pick last year, as well, but he doesn’t have Frelick’s defensive value and may end up playing multiple positions.


Two "no-doubt centerfielders." Good problem to have, but something has to give.
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Post#160 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Aug 1, 2022 7:34 pm

Four of the Brewers top 10 prospects are CF. Mitchell has the arm to play RF, but so does Wiemer. Obviously neither is a lock to make an impact in Milwaukee, but they'll both get their chances at the major league level somewhere.

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