2018 Brewers Discussion - Yelich Signing on Page 45

[MickeyDavis]

[Gianstoppable]

Insider shaming is pretty lame IMO. Are some bs? Sure.. but when peeps go after them it just discourages people with real info from posting and that kind of sucks. Its a message board and it's fun to discuss rumors so anything fuels that discussion is cool with me. If you don't believe them thats cool but probably best to just ignore them then. Hell I don't believe half the **** coming from actual paid reporter insiders because I assume some is planted by teams or agents but I still don't mind reading the rumors.

I've heard it all now "Insider shaming" lol. Everyone "shames" Gery Woeful and Tom Hardicourt, they have gotten some things right before, and plenty wrong. I still dont understand why anyone who has affiliation with a team would leak info to someone that they know will go on forums and spread their insider info. Seems silly to me, just my opinion.

Oh I think leaking happens. It's probably lower level guys who want to sound important to their friends and then that friend turns around and 'leaks' it on a message board without that original person knowing. People like to feel important and like attention. Is most of the info BS or old and vague? yeah probably. My point is why not just let them post it without getting ragged on for it; everyone makes their own decision on what they believe or not. I just think on an internet message board setting it's more fun and interesting with some of that info out there than not. If people feel like they will get ripped for posting it then they are less likely to post it.

Gery and Tom are both idiots and the fact it's their job and they are public figures fairly opens it up to criticism and shaming. To me that's different than going after the validity of someone on a message board. But even as much as they are idiots I still like seeing what insane rumor they are floating because it adds to the discussion overall.

And I wasn't personally going after you or even saying our wrong to doubt HH. I just see it all the time on these boards where people like to go after the 'insiders' and it's kind of lame IMO.

I am also going off memory but I swear HH19 said his insider knows he's posting things on forums and is ok with it.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I've heard it all now "Insider shaming" lol. Everyone "shames" Gery Woeful and Tom Hardicourt, they have gotten some things right before, and plenty wrong. I still dont understand why anyone who has affiliation with a team would leak info to someone that they know will go on forums and spread their insider info. Seems silly to me, just my opinion.

Oh I think leaking happens. It's probably lower level guys who want to sound important to their friends and then that friend turns around and 'leaks' it on a message board without that original person knowing. People like to feel important and like attention. Is most of the info BS or old and vague? yeah probably. My point is why not just let them post it without getting ragged on for it; everyone makes their own decision on what they believe or not. I just think on an internet message board setting it's more fun and interesting with some of that info out there than not. If people feel like they will get ripped for posting it then they are less likely to post it.

Gery and Tom are both idiots and the fact it's their job and they are public figures fairly opens it up to criticism and shaming. To me that's different than going after the validity of someone on a message board. But even as much as they are idiots I still like seeing what insane rumor they are floating because it adds to the discussion overall.

And I wasn't personally going after you or even saying our wrong to doubt HH. I just see it all the time on these boards where people like to go after the 'insiders' and it's kind of lame IMO.

I am also going off memory but I swear HH19 said his insider knows he's posting things on forums and is ok with it.

That does seem suspect. Who knows maybe he's actually the FedEx getter or some low level employee for the Brewers and wants to feel important buy leaking some **** he hears in the building. He uses the guise of it's his friend to mask it from getting back to him.

[Gianstoppable]

Oh I think leaking happens. It's probably lower level guys who want to sound important to their friends and then that friend turns around and 'leaks' it on a message board without that original person knowing. People like to feel important and like attention. Is most of the info BS or old and vague? yeah probably. My point is why not just let them post it without getting ragged on for it; everyone makes their own decision on what they believe or not. I just think on an internet message board setting it's more fun and interesting with some of that info out there than not. If people feel like they will get ripped for posting it then they are less likely to post it.

Gery and Tom are both idiots and the fact it's their job and they are public figures fairly opens it up to criticism and shaming. To me that's different than going after the validity of someone on a message board. But even as much as they are idiots I still like seeing what insane rumor they are floating because it adds to the discussion overall.

And I wasn't personally going after you or even saying our wrong to doubt HH. I just see it all the time on these boards where people like to go after the 'insiders' and it's kind of lame IMO.

I am also going off memory but I swear HH19 said his insider knows he's posting things on forums and is ok with it.

That does seem suspect. Who knows maybe he's actually the FedEx getter or some low level employee for the Brewers and wants to feel important buy leaking some **** he hears in the building. He uses the guise of it's his friend to mask it from getting back to him.

Are you saying HH19 is Horst? lol

[trwi7]

Insider shaming is pretty lame IMO. Are some bs? Sure.. but when peeps go after them it just discourages people with real info from posting and that kind of sucks. Its a message board and it's fun to discuss rumors so anything fuels that discussion is cool with me. If you don't believe them thats cool but probably best to just ignore them then. Hell I don't believe half the **** coming from actual paid reporter insiders because I assume some is planted by teams or agents but I still don't mind reading the rumors.

I've heard it all now "Insider shaming" lol. Everyone "shames" Gery Woeful and Tom Hardicourt, they have gotten some things right before, and plenty wrong. I still dont understand why anyone who has affiliation with a team would leak info to someone that they know will go on forums and spread their insider info. Seems silly to me, just my opinion.

Woelfel gets shamed because while he does sometimes get scoops, he also makes **** up and/or spins a scoop to fit his narrative. Haudricourt does the bare minimum and isn't even good at that. That's why he gets ****.

As far as no more draft compensation for free agents, it's after the 2018 draft. Or at least it was. I don't know if the new CBA changed it.

[dbrodz7]

I am also going off memory but I swear HH19 said his insider knows he's posting things on forums and is ok with it.

That does seem suspect. Who knows maybe he's actually the FedEx getter or some low level employee for the Brewers and wants to feel important buy leaking some **** he hears in the building. He uses the guise of it's his friend to mask it from getting back to him.

Are you saying HH19 is Horst? lol

HighHorst19, it's all making sense now.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I know who High Heat is...

[El Duderino]

I really wonder what the hang up is with Darvish.

What it’s ALWAYS about. $

Yeah kinda. I think its about years. He wants 7 and teams only wanna give him 4 or 5

Yep

I think it's also why other free agents like Martinez, Hosmer, and Arrieta haven't signed yet. The agents and players want longer contracts than teams are willing to hand out. Teams have seen how often these overly long contracts backfire and are holding back on getting stuck themselves. They are fine paying big money per year, but just not as many years as the agents want.

[HaroldinGMinor]

HH19 is claiming he has breaking news at 9pm CT. Dude likes the attention that's for sure.

[trwi7]

Would laugh my ass off if he announced he was making **** up this whole time.

[LUKE23]

Arrieta maybe? I'd so that over trading a prospect haul for Archer pretty easily. Rather spend money than prospects on the rotation. Granted, I know Arrieta has risks and he'd be starting the contract at age 32.

[DingleJerry]

I'm pretty sure HH was asked if his person knew of this leaking and why they'd want the info out if so. And he clearly stated his friend did not know he was doing it.

[Tfence92]

His 9pm post:

Archer: I mentioned earlier that for Archer it would take Sanatana, Phillips, Burnes and Peralta. That's what the Rays currently want. That's not what Stearn's is going to give them. So relax. Ray's are pressing hard to get max value and willing to wait this out.

Darvish: There is speculation by the Brewer's FO and other FO's that the agents are playing their own collusion game with Darvish. In that Darvish is setting the price for at least the rest of the pitching. They don't want Darvish to sign for anything less than a record amount. A low amount in signing could literally have agents and agencies lose literally hundreds of thousands across the board.

The Brewer's feel that Darvish will sign with someone else, but they are actively after him. However, teams are aware of the price setting by Darvish and realize it could affect their secondary FA targets.

Brewer's say they signed Yelich and Cain because they are in win now mode. NO. It is because their analysis department concluded that the money spent on Cain and assets spent on Yelich were below market value per their geeks. Essentially swift store shopping. The moves also looking to bring in FA's and drive ticket sales.

I mentioned earlier that the Brewer's discussed Stroman. Now include for sure Michael Fuller and James Paxton. The purpose is to gauge the Aug 1st trade deadline. And who the Brewer's may need to keep off limits to acquire one of these pitchers if their team falters.

Kipnis is of high interest because he will come cheap in terms of assets (dependent upon salary eaten by Crew), fits their analytical departments core aspects, and lines up with some of the Brewer's assets. Essentially a good fit for both teams.

Brewer's still want a top SP yet. Arrieta is on their big board, however he has to fall within their "Set" price.

One trade is a sizable trade. Stuck on one player. Brewer's are not budging and neither is the other team.

Not only is Hader untouchable like I mentioned earlier. Include Arcia in that group. Brewer's are very high on Arcia this year.

Thames is available.

Sanatana still has the interest of other teams namely the Indians and Red Sox.....also the Rays. Brewer's however are willing to play hardball with Santana. They felt that they did not get enough in return for Khris Davis and will not make that same mistake twice. They think Nottingham could make it, but the window is closing.

Brewer's currently looking at adding a serviceable catcher for whatever that's worth.

No this isn't breaking news. Some hearts maybe broken, but news nonetheless. I'm not going to get into extreme details about what was listed above.

[Gianstoppable]

This offseason is **** weird

[HaroldinGMinor]

I'm pretty sure HH was asked if his person knew of this leaking and why they'd want the info out if so. And he clearly stated his friend did not know he was doing it.

Well if people are copying and pasting his stuff to different boards my guess is his friend will find out eventually.

[Ryan5UW]

HH19 is claiming he has breaking news at 9pm CT. Dude likes the attention that's for sure.

Yeah, no ****....

[Turk Nowitzki]

I just find it hard to believe that he has a buddy that plugged in that he definitively knows all that stuff he's posting. Unless specific trade details and FA negotiations are just regular office gossip among average employees in Miller Park or something.

I still think he did know a couple things at one point and I'm starting to believe more and more that he's just rolling with it on his own now because he likes the attention of being the board "insider".

[jute2003]

He definitely likes the attention. The begging for percentages and any extra little detail is very reminiscent of this board with buckpack and equally as annoying. If I had any bit of inside info that would bother me more than the doubters.

[dbrodz7]

Posting a time that you are going to make a post with breaking news that summarizes nothing new is one of the biggest douche bag things I've seen anyone do so far in 2018.

[neiLz]

Wow read HH's post and this crap is stuff we've all read/discussed all off season. Nothing we already didn't know. what a tool.