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2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery

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Re: 2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery 

Post#1921 » by MiltownHawkeye » Fri Aug 22, 2025 4:10 pm

Eeavers57 wrote:Makes me very curious now about what they do with Quero. Would probably be less value due to injury concerns but good two-way catchers don't grow on trees. Not saying Quero is "good", and admittedly haven't watched him at all, but box score wise looks like he is bouncing back well from injury.

I think we bring him up early-ish in 2026 and depending on how his try-out goes, trade Contreras as early as next deadline but more than likely the offseason after 2026.

Although I'm curious to see if Contreras' regression at the plate makes him more affordable - wouldn't mind buying out 1-2 arb years at the right price but no idea what that would be.
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Post#1922 » by Bucks4005 » Fri Aug 22, 2025 4:50 pm

MiltownHawkeye wrote:
Eeavers57 wrote:Makes me very curious now about what they do with Quero. Would probably be less value due to injury concerns but good two-way catchers don't grow on trees. Not saying Quero is "good", and admittedly haven't watched him at all, but box score wise looks like he is bouncing back well from injury.

I think we bring him up early-ish in 2026 and depending on how his try-out goes, trade Contreras as early as next deadline but more than likely the offseason after 2026.

Although I'm curious to see if Contreras' regression at the plate makes him more affordable - wouldn't mind buying out 1-2 arb years at the right price but no idea what that would be.


I doubt it unfortunately. Guy is srill looking at a top 5 finish among catchers at WAR, not a “SUPER” high raise, but I could see him getting prices in the Will Smith range, who got 10 years, $140 million, The problem is though we already have Yelich making big money, idk if we can do both.
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Re: 2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surger” 

Post#1923 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Aug 22, 2025 6:13 pm

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Eeavers57 wrote:Makes me very curious now about what they do with Quero. Would probably be less value due to injury concerns but good two-way catchers don't grow on trees. Not saying Quero is "good", and admittedly haven't watched him at all, but box score wise looks like he is bouncing back well from injury.

I think we bring him up early-ish in 2026 and depending on how his try-out goes, trade Contreras as early as next deadline but more than likely the offseason after 2026.

Although I'm curious to see if Contreras' regression at the plate makes him more affordable - wouldn't mind buying out 1-2 arb years at the right price but no idea what that would be.


I doubt it unfortunately. Guy is srill looking at a top 5 finish among catchers at WAR, not a “SUPER” high raise, but I could see him getting prices in the Will Smith range, who got 10 years, $140 million, The problem is though we already have Yelich making big money, idk if we can do both.


It would be dumb to extend him. Same with Turang. Don't pay for guys in their 30s.
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Re: 2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery 

Post#1924 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Aug 22, 2025 7:07 pm

I mean, Turang's only 25 lol. Issue with extending him is that you probably have two even better infielders waiting in the wings to replace him, not because of his age. Catcher is always a position I'd just rather not pay at all because of shelf-life/durability.
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Post#1925 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Aug 22, 2025 7:38 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I mean, Turang's only 25 lol. Issue with extending him is that you probably have two even better infielders waiting in the wings to replace him, not because of his age. Catcher is always a position I'd just rather not pay at all because of shelf-life/durability.


They've got him for four seasons after this one. Extending him is literally paying him in his 30s, which is always a terrible idea.
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Re: 2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery 

Post#1926 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Aug 22, 2025 7:53 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:I mean, Turang's only 25 lol. Issue with extending him is that you probably have two even better infielders waiting in the wings to replace him, not because of his age. Catcher is always a position I'd just rather not pay at all because of shelf-life/durability.


They've got him for four seasons after this one. Extending him is literally paying him in his 30s, which is always a terrible idea.


I'm assuming the discussion is about forgoing arbitration and extending him now/soon if there's some sort of number they feel comfortable with.
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Re: 2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery 

Post#1927 » by drdrG » Fri Aug 22, 2025 8:54 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
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Ron Swanson wrote:I mean, Turang's only 25 lol. Issue with extending him is that you probably have two even better infielders waiting in the wings to replace him, not because of his age. Catcher is always a position I'd just rather not pay at all because of shelf-life/durability.


They've got him for four seasons after this one. Extending him is literally paying him in his 30s, which is always a terrible idea.


I'm assuming the discussion is about forgoing arbitration and extending him now/soon if there's some sort of number they feel comfortable with.


Turang was 4.6 WAR last year and could approach 6 this year. Optimistically, he's projecting as a 20/30 kind of 2B with Gold glove caliber defense. As much as we can hope Pena/Made turn into their projections, Turang has proven it at the big league level, is young, ascending and fits our culture. Of our position players I'd extend before they are too expensive, he'd be the one I'd pick.
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Post#1928 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:13 pm

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Post#1929 » by MikeIsGood » Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:38 pm

VTO. Jesus.
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Re: 2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery 

Post#1930 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:00 am

MikeIsGood wrote:VTO. Jesus.


I feel like I'd never even heard of that prior to 2024 and now it's hitting high profile athletes in every sport.
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Re: 2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery 

Post#1931 » by jakecronus8 » Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:31 pm

Orioles looking to move Rutschman this offseason. 100% type of splash move I'd love.

Having the DH changes everything. He can split the catching duties which will keep him and Willy fresh and also be the LH platoon with Vaughn. A Pratt headlined deal.
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Re: 2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery 

Post#1932 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:28 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:Orioles looking to move Rutschman this offseason. 100% type of splash move I'd love.

Having the DH changes everything. He can split the catching duties which will keep him and Willy fresh and also be the LH platoon with Vaughn. A Pratt headlined deal.


I'd rather just bring up Quero and keep our prospects.
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Re: 2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery 

Post#1933 » by jakecronus8 » Mon Aug 25, 2025 6:35 pm

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jakecronus8 wrote:Orioles looking to move Rutschman this offseason. 100% type of splash move I'd love.

Having the DH changes everything. He can split the catching duties which will keep him and Willy fresh and also be the LH platoon with Vaughn. A Pratt headlined deal.


I'd rather just bring up Quero and keep our prospects.


Quero's health still terrifies me. If we got Adley, I'd give it a year to see how it works/monitor how Quero looks. If Quero looks like he's fully back I may look to deal Contreras instead and do the above plan with Quero in Willy's place.
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Re: 2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery 

Post#1934 » by Kerb Hohl » Tue Aug 26, 2025 1:26 pm

If the Brewers think they can fix Adley, I mean maybe...but yeah, I usually like to just keep the prospects.

Insane how closely Rutschman is following the career trajectory of Matt Wieters thus far.
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Re: 2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery 

Post#1935 » by Profound23 » Wed Aug 27, 2025 3:12 am

Nice to see Adames sucking again now that he's facing the Cubs instead of the Brewers. Thanks for that Willy.
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Post#1936 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Aug 27, 2025 3:15 am

Just turned on the MLB.com broadcast on Chrome and it's perfect. So something is up with Amazon.

Also it's now tied.

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Post#1937 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Aug 27, 2025 3:33 am

5-2 Giants. Great to see they're not laying an egg as soon as Chicago came to town.
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Post#1938 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Aug 28, 2025 3:44 pm

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Re: 2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery 

Post#1939 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Aug 28, 2025 4:54 pm

So the 6 so called finalists for expansion are Nashville, Raleigh, Orlando, Salt Lake City, Portland, and Austin. Another Florida franchise that doesn't support their other 2? JFC. Move Miami to Orlando fine but they don't need a third team. Nashville will get in for sure.

I'll reluctantly go along with expansion but the proposed realignments I've seen are terrible. Manfred wants to do something outside the box? Shuffle up the divisions every year based on payroll. Make the Dodgers, Yankees, Mets, Cubs be in the same division. Obviously that will never happen but I'd love it.
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Re: 2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery 

Post#1940 » by MVP2110 » Thu Aug 28, 2025 4:56 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:So the 6 so called finalists for expansion are Nashville, Raleigh, Orlando, Salt Lake City, Portland, and Austin. Another Florida franchise that doesn't support their other 2? JFC. Move Miami to Orlando fine but they don't need a third team. Nashville will get in for sure.

I'll reluctantly go along with expansion but the proposed realignments I've seen are terrible. Manfred wants to do something outside the box? Shuffle up the divisions every year based on payroll. Make the Dodgers, Yankees, Mets, Cubs be in the same division. Obviously that will never happen but I'd love it.


Based on the Athletic article, it seemed Nashville & Salt Lake were probably the favorites although there is a long way to go. Raleigh & Portland seemed next up, then Orlando & Austin as less likely
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