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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#21 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:11 am

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Thunder Muscle wrote:Any chance Brock Wilken is a factor at 3B next year? I haven’t heard much on him this year.


Probably a year away yet. I kinda want the Brewer's to trade for Brett Baty from the Mets. With Adames most certainly gone and Ortiz moves to SS. I think Baty fits in perfectly with the young core. I'm just personally a big fan of him thats all.


Who would you give up for Baty?
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#22 » by Thunder Muscle » Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:37 pm

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landoc88 wrote:
Thunder Muscle wrote:Any chance Brock Wilken is a factor at 3B next year? I haven’t heard much on him this year.


Probably a year away yet. I kinda want the Brewer's to trade for Brett Baty from the Mets. With Adames most certainly gone and Ortiz moves to SS. I think Baty fits in perfectly with the young core. I'm just personally a big fan of him thats all.


Who would you give up for Baty?


Be curious what his value would be. He hasn’t really put up great numbers at MLB level and think this was his 3rd season where he got MLB at bats. I would think his value has decreased some being almost post prospect hyp, but maybe a new org helps. I haven’t followed him a ton admittedly.

Bummer on Wilken. Last year seemed like he was tracking to possibly make an impact sooner than later.

Also curious what 2025 looks like for Tyler Black. Not sure if he is a AAAA type or just needs steady at bats to get it going up here. I wouldn’t be shocked if he is moved either being that he doesn’t have a true position.
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#23 » by rayallenscalves » Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:44 pm

It's definitely going to be an interesting offseason. Some legit strengths, but also some gaping holes. First and third base continue to be problems, but I'd much rather have Tyler Black getting PT over Bauers, who can take his strikeouts right on over to Japan.
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#24 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:56 pm

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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#25 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Oct 4, 2024 1:10 pm

Trading Devin makes sense regardless of the meltdown last night. He has one year left and will make about $10 million. Megill would be a fine replacement and he's entering ARB1.
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#26 » by rayallenscalves » Fri Oct 4, 2024 1:29 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Trading Devin makes sense regardless of the meltdown last night. He has one year left and will make about $10 million. Megill would be a fine replacement and he's entering ARB1.


Agreed. Their bullpen was fine without him for much of the season and they have a ton of depth to make up for it. I'd love to get a young corner infielder for Devin.
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#27 » by rayallenscalves » Fri Oct 4, 2024 2:18 pm

Way-to-early prediction for 2025 Opening Day roster:

26-man roster
Catcher: Contreras, Haas
1st base: Yelich/Hoskins
2nd base: Turang
SS: Ortiz
3rd base: FA/Trade acquisition
OF: Chourio/Mitchell/Frelick/Perkins/Yelich
DH: Hoskins
Utility: Black, FA/Trade

Starters: Peralta, Rea, Civale, Woody, Myers
Bullpen: Megill, Payamps, Mears, Ashby, Mis, Yoho, Koenig, Hudson

AAAA players
Hall, Gasser, Uribe, Monasterio, Hicklen

Gone
Willy
Montas (too expensive)
Miley
Sanchez
Bauers
Milner
Wilson
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#28 » by Thunder Muscle » Fri Oct 4, 2024 2:40 pm

I don’t think Yelich will ever play 1B with his back issues. Its OF or DH.
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#29 » by Matches Malone » Fri Oct 4, 2024 2:48 pm

I'd be fine letting Ortiz take a shot at moving back to SS but you're probably going to need a stopgap infielder for a year or two. Any decent ones we can send Devin Williams for?
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#30 » by jute2003 » Fri Oct 4, 2024 3:00 pm

They have money, prospect capital, and a young team that is competitive. Usually I'm pretty neutral with payroll stuff but I will be quite irritated if they don't try to throw some money around this time.
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#31 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Oct 4, 2024 3:12 pm

Willy, Miley and Devin made $26.5 million this season. If Mark won't increase payroll you can still use that $26.5 million. And look ahead a year to when Hoskins' $18 million is off the books after 2025. Miley has a mutual option of $12 million which will be declined obviously.
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#32 » by MVP2110 » Fri Oct 4, 2024 3:27 pm

Honestly I expect a pretty quiet offseason. I think they go out and get a solid stop gap IF to play SS or 3b in replace of Adames. They'll also likely trade Devin. But that's essentially it. They have nearly everyone else of note returning(assuming Hoskins opts in) and no clear cut holes(besides a Adames replacement). Maybe they spend to get a really solid arm either in the rotation or bullpen but it's hard to look at those spots and say they need to.
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#33 » by Thunder Muscle » Fri Oct 4, 2024 3:36 pm

For me…

Gone: Adames, Montas (decline 20M option), Miley (decline 12M option).

Likely Gone: Williams (think they trade him), Milner (other cheaper options, DL/Ashby lefty options), Sanchez. I think Bauers is gone as need to get Tyler Black at bats unless he is moved in a bigger deal.

Joe Ross I could see either way. Likely a cheap option to bring back and he was decent in multi-innings role. Feel like him or Wilson will be gone though.

Rea has a 5.5M club option per Sportrac. I actually could see that declined if they can get Montas back at similar rate. Rea was big this year but could see him regress and rotation spots may be at premium with Peralta, Civale, Myers likely claiming 3. Gasser, Woodruff are health dependent but would track for 2 other spots. DL Hall may get a crack again. Then its kinda how offseason shakes out.

Hoskins I feel takes player option unless he was quietly miserable here. But by all accounts seemed like he liked it and maybe bounces back next season.

Overall feel like team will be mostly the same outside Ortiz moving to SS and leaving 3B up for grabs.
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#34 » by neiLz » Fri Oct 4, 2024 3:39 pm

Love Devin Williams, but he should be traded. This team is young and fun. Need to be pro-active here if our owner won't stretch his pockets. That means, moving guys like devin and anyone they think they can semi-replace with cheaper options. Woodruff is the wild card here. if he comes back to 80 percent for this year thats a big win.
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#35 » by Thunder Muscle » Fri Oct 4, 2024 3:59 pm

3B market is pretty weak. Bregman biggest name and don’t think they will or should pursue him at what he will get. Yoan Moncada may be out there if White Sox buy him out at 5M vs 25M/year. Assume they will buy out. Otherwise not much available. I’m sure Cardinals will try to move Arenado but he has large contract with some red flags (mid 30s, numbers dipping).

I don’t think they have anybody in AAA ready. Wilken per above is not, Black I don’t think can field well enough, but want him to get consistent at bats which he would there if not a defensive liability.
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#36 » by MVP2110 » Fri Oct 4, 2024 4:29 pm

Thunder Muscle wrote:3B market is pretty weak. Bregman biggest name and don’t think they will or should pursue him at what he will get. Yoan Moncada may be out there if White Sox buy him out at 5M vs 25M/year. Assume they will buy out. Otherwise not much available. I’m sure Cardinals will try to move Arenado but he has large contract with some red flags (mid 30s, numbers dipping).

I don’t think they have anybody in AAA ready. Wilken per above is not, Black I don’t think can field well enough, but want him to get consistent at bats which he would there if not a defensive liability.


Shortstop isn't much better after Adames & Ha Seong Kim. Probably will fill that IF spot through a trade of some sort. The Brewers will have payroll flexibility to spend, I'm just not sure where that would be besides maybe another rotation arm on a short term High AAV deal
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#37 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:08 pm

Not counting on Woodruff at all but it would be big if he's solid next year.
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#38 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:29 pm

Can Black play 2nd? If so maybe they shift Turang over to SS and keep Ortiz at 3rd.

But yeah likely need to go outside the organization for a starting IF.

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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#39 » by jute2003 » Fri Oct 4, 2024 7:11 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Not counting on Woodruff at all but it would be big if he's solid next year.
I dont think the team can really. Basically they should operate under the assumption that he'll provide nothing. If he comes back and is serviceable, it'll be a nice little boost.
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Re: Early 2025 Roster Look 

Post#40 » by wallus » Sun Oct 6, 2024 2:29 am

If Woodruff isn't good, the front office made a large financial gamble for nothing

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