Escobar, Cain, Odirizzi and Jeffress for Greinke+

[Jollay]

And compared to what the Nats were offering our deal isn't even close.

What were the Nats offering? I can't get any confirmation on the exact deal that the Nats had with them....

Jordan Zimmermann, Danny Espinosa and Drew Storen.

Thank you. Everything I had heard was that they wouldn't give up JZ. Must have relented but got KC to accept Espinosa over Desmond.

Interesting. Nats package was at least safer for the Royals, but I can't say it was ALOT better...

[wichmae]

Zimmerman Storen and Espinosa is alot better than what the Crew gave up.

[trwi7]

Another name to add to the SS list is Nick Punto. He's an awful hitter, but a really good defender. So basically he's Escobar from last year, maybe slightly better on defense. If we could sign him, with the guaranteed starting job for maybe $2 million that'd be a solid deal.

And we still need to trade for Cameron.

[wichmae]

Good call twirls

[DanoMac]

Zimmerman Storen and Espinosa is alot better than what the Crew gave up.

A LOT better. We're lucky Greinke didn't want to go to DC.

[DanoMac]

And for the people who are butthurt after giving up Odorizzi...really reminds of the Will Inman situation. Remember him? Remember how he was going to be a stud for the Padres? Brewers fans were irate we traded him.

[trwi7]

We were irate we traded him for a middle reliever.

[DanoMac]

We were irate we traded him for a middle reliever.

At least Linebrink's playing in the big leagues.

[LUKE23]

And for the people who are butthurt after giving up Odorizzi...really reminds of the Will Inman situation. Remember him? Remember how he was going to be a stud for the Padres? Brewers fans were irate we traded him.

Your hyperbole is taking over this thread. Do you see anyone pissed about this trade? And those two situations aren't even comparable.

[DanoMac]

And for the people who are butthurt after giving up Odorizzi...really reminds of the Will Inman situation. Remember him? Remember how he was going to be a stud for the Padres? Brewers fans were irate we traded him.

Your hyperbole is taking over this thread. Do you see anyone pissed about this trade? And those two situations aren't even comparable.

You've been bitching about how we traded Odorizzi for the past 2 pages like he's gonna be Felix Hernandez. I simply posted that to compare it to another situation of when we traded our "top prospect SP". They are comparable, Luke. They're just not comparable in your eyes, because you disagree with whatever you can on these boards.

[LUKE23]

You've been bitching about how we traded Odorizzi for the past 2 pages like he's gonna be Felix Hernandez. I simply posted that to compare it to another situation of when we traded our "top prospect SP". They are comparable, Luke. They're just not comparable in your eyes, because you disagree with whatever you can on these boards.

Reading is your friend. I actually haven't. I like the trade. I was more debating the notion that there is no cutoff for when the trade is good or bad. I also feel that giving up four prospects means we have to extend Greinke as well.

And no, trading Odorizzi, who was higher ceiling than Inman, for a stud SP is different than trading Inman for a relief pitcher, especially when we are talking a package trade. Not comparable.

[humanrefutation]

At this point, if we're going to go all in, we still have to go all the way. I agree that picking up Cam and/or a SS would be helpful.

These moves have decimated our potential depth - Cain, Escobar, and Jeffress were going to be major contributors this coming season. We need to fill those holes, too.

Gotta do the following:

Re-sign Counsell.
Re-sign Weeks.
Sign another SS - Punto, Renteria, etc.
Make a move for an OF.
Add some depth to the bullpen.

The silver lining to this move is if the Brewers underperform our expectations next season, we can easily ship out Greinke or Marcum for a boatload of prospects in our own right, and start looking towards the future.

[DanoMac]

You've been bitching about how we traded Odorizzi for the past 2 pages like he's gonna be Felix Hernandez. I simply posted that to compare it to another situation of when we traded our "top prospect SP". They are comparable, Luke. They're just not comparable in your eyes, because you disagree with whatever you can on these boards.

Reading is your friend. I actually haven't. I like the trade. I was more debating the notion that there is no cutoff for when the trade is good or bad. I also feel that giving up four prospects means we have to extend Greinke as well.

And no, trading Odorizzi, who was higher ceiling than Inman, for a stud SP is different than trading Inman for a relief pitcher, especially when we are talking a package trade. Not comparable.

So after watching Odorizzi pitch 1 season in A-ball, what makes you say that he has a higher ceiling than Inman? I'm curious to know...because when we traded Inman he was projected as a #2-#3...and Odorizzi is projected as a #3-bullpen guy to many around the league.

Obviously the trade is different, but trading your top SP prospect twice isn't similar? What the hell?

[jimmybones]

The silver lining to this move is if the Brewers underperform our expectations next season, we can easily ship out Greinke or Marcum for a boatload of prospects in our own right, and start looking towards the future.

Even by letting Fielder, Marcum and Greinke walk and taking comp picks we could end up with better prospects than what we had, plus a fun two year run.

[trwi7]

Inman was never projected as a 2-3. Never.

[DanoMac]

Inman was never projected as a 2-3. Never.

Are you kidding me?

[trwi7]

He was considered backend/reliever based on stuff and a weird delivery.

[Turk Nowitzki]

A little bummed that Jeffress is leaving after Gammons and TH floated the possibility that we might get to keep him.

[trwi7]

Jeffress is a reliever to me. Bad control and would take at least a couple years to build up enough innings to start. That's a sell high on Jeffress, which I'm fine with.

[trwi7]

Braun on the trade: "It says we're going for it. We're all in. I don't think anybody could ask for anything more."