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2024 Managerial Candidates - Pat Murphy gets the nod

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Pick 2: Who do you want to manage the Brewers in 2024?

Pat Murphy
7
25%
Brewers Front Office (R. Weeks/C.Villanueva)
10
36%
Mark Kotsay
1
4%
Don Mattingly
2
7%
Gabe Kapler
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7%
David Ross
1
4%
Clayton McCollough
1
4%
Joe Espada (Out - Houston Astros)
1
4%
Troy Snitker
2
7%
Other
1
4%
 
Total votes: 28

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Post#281 » by MVP2110 » Tue Nov 7, 2023 2:46 pm

Read on Twitter
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Pretty interesting note here that the Brewers assistant coaches all chose to re-up with the Brewers despite not knowing what Counsell's future held
Coach Drew: "Milwaukee has always been a team that I have been intrigued by. When we played them, they were a tough team for us to play. Although we did beat them all four times"
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Re: 2024 Managerial Candidates - CC to the Cubs 

Post#282 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Nov 7, 2023 2:51 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:If it's Weeks I'm officially a Royals fan.


What’s wrong with Weeks?


From a few pages ago. Manager asked him if he would at least try to play outfield to help the team. He refused. He wouldn't even consider it. He had been benched for Scooter and was bitter. F him.



"We talked about things with him, going to different places," said Roenicke, who indicated that conversation was fairly recent. "We talked with him about whether he thought he could play the outfield, whether he thought he could play first base.

"He does not want to do it."

Asked if he'd usually try to persuade a player that such a move might be beneficial, Roenicke said, "Yeah. I'll leave it at that."

Weeks, who started Saturday night against New York Yankees lefty CC Sabathia, was asked why he wasn't interested in giving left field, or any other position, a try.

"I'm a second baseman," said Weeks. "I feel like right now I should be playing second base."

As for the possibility of changing his mind, Weeks said, "Right now, I'm a second baseman."
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Re: 2024 Managerial Candidates - CC to the Cubs 

Post#283 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Nov 7, 2023 2:57 pm

“I had just left rehab and got in the car and was eating some food on the way home and got a couple texts from some friends. I thought they were messing with me,” Woodruff said. “One said the Cubs and I’m like, ‘What does this even mean?’

“It’s crazy.”

“Honestly, that conversation was just more about our relationship,” Woodruff said. “It was just a really good conversation between me and him. Nothing crazy. I’m not going to get into what we talked about. I thanked him.

“It was a good call.”

“The Brewers have got a lot to figure out,” he continued. “(Genera manager) Matt Arnold and Mark have a lot of work to do. We’ll see what happens. It’s pretty crazy, there’s no doubt about it. We’ll see what happens.”


“It’s going to be weird seeing Couns in a Cubs uniform,” Woodruff said. “Nobody ever would have thought that would happen. From a player standpoint, I don’t think it really adds any spice, personally.

“He’s still close to home with his family and that’s probably the best decision in terms of that for him. You can’t blame him for that. Then you just think about the business side and what happens.

“As a player you get to free agency, you’ve played for a team for so long and you want to stay with that team. But the business side happens and that’s just part of this game.

“But nobody, including myself, ever felt the Cubs were even remotely entering the picture.”
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Re: 2024 Managerial Candidates - CC to the Cubs 

Post#284 » by SirChurros » Tue Nov 7, 2023 3:28 pm

Sign me up for Rickie Weeks. Why the **** not.
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Post#285 » by Thunder Muscle » Tue Nov 7, 2023 3:33 pm

What has Weeks been doing in the organization? Scout?
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Re: 2024 Managerial Candidates - CC to the Cubs 

Post#286 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Nov 7, 2023 3:34 pm

Krispy Kreme wrote:Sign me up for Rickie Weeks. Why the **** not.

What would make him a good manager?
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Re: 2024 Managerial Candidates - CC to the Cubs 

Post#287 » by SirChurros » Tue Nov 7, 2023 3:42 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:
Krispy Kreme wrote:Sign me up for Rickie Weeks. Why the **** not.

What would make him a good manager?

Could have said the same thing about Counsell in 2015.
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Re: 2024 Managerial Candidates - CC to the Cubs 

Post#288 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Nov 7, 2023 3:43 pm

Thunder Muscle wrote:What has Weeks been doing in the organization? Scout?

Weeks has been promoted to special assistant to player development after spending his first two seasons in the front office as an assistant to player development.

“Rickie has had a seamless transition from his playing career to the front office. We look forward to having him continue to serve as a tremendous mentor to players throughout the organization in his new role.”



Promoted from assistant to special assistant.


He can mentor players that if the manager asks you to do something to help the team, refuse.

I'll always be bitter about that :lol:
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Re: 2024 Managerial Candidates - CC to the Cubs 

Post#289 » by MVP2110 » Tue Nov 7, 2023 3:44 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:
Krispy Kreme wrote:Sign me up for Rickie Weeks. Why the **** not.

What would make him a good manager?


I don't think we really have any clue if Weeks or any of the other non managers listed there would be a good manager or not. Counsell had zero coaching experience before he took over and that's not uncommon in MLB.
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Post#290 » by Thunder Muscle » Tue Nov 7, 2023 3:50 pm

It will be interesting what direction they go. Experience vs First Timer, Internal vs External, etc. I really would have a hard time betting on anybody right now as who I think they hire.
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Re: 2024 Managerial Candidates - CC to the Cubs 

Post#291 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Nov 7, 2023 4:30 pm

Krispy Kreme wrote:
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Krispy Kreme wrote:Sign me up for Rickie Weeks. Why the **** not.

What would make him a good manager?

Could have said the same thing about Counsell in 2015.

If you want to use that criteria, give me Carlos. He never quit on the team.
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Post#292 » by Thunder Muscle » Tue Nov 7, 2023 4:43 pm

Good article on The Athletic by Sahadev Sharma on how it came about. High level Cubs had interest in CC from afar for awhile but did not think it was realistic. They did not feel he wanted to go to NY but assumed if did not he would be back in Milwaukee. Once he was a free agent on 11/1, Hoyer decided to reach out but was adament it had to be super secretive so Ross did not find out. Sounds like they hit it off, CC interviewed with NY and Cleveland afterwards while talking to Brewers, but Cubs/CC had a deal on Sunday AM. My assumption was none of the teams knew CC met with Cubs until yesterday, including the Brewers.

Cubs did fly immediately to Florida to talk to Ross, which sounded like it was long and tense. Curious what his public comments will be.

In the end I just don’t think he truly wanted to return. It is tough as he is a top tier manager, but the timing is probably right for everyone involved. It’s certainly possible he starts to get stagnant if stays. There have been times in past couple years he looks spent/checked out in the dugout/post game.
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Re: 2024 Managerial Candidates - CC to the Cubs 

Post#293 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Nov 7, 2023 4:47 pm

Kind of feel bad for Ross. Word is the Cubs are going to spend some cash this winter. It will be hard to judge CC if he's given much better players than last years Cubs.
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Re: 2024 Managerial Candidates - CC to the Cubs 

Post#294 » by SirChurros » Tue Nov 7, 2023 4:52 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:
Krispy Kreme wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:What would make him a good manager?

Could have said the same thing about Counsell in 2015.

If you want to use that criteria, give me Carlos. He never quit on the team.

I mean, I would be fine with him too, but his name hasn’t been mentioned publicly yet that I’ve seen.
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Re: 2024 Managerial Candidates - CC to the Cubs 

Post#295 » by MVP2110 » Tue Nov 7, 2023 5:09 pm

Per Curt Hogg, every coach except for Pat Murphy re-upped. Murphy did not and is currently a free agent. Which makes sense since he was Counsell's guy
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Re: 2024 Managerial Candidates - CC to the Cubs 

Post#296 » by LUKE23 » Tue Nov 7, 2023 5:11 pm

There is no way I will ever back Counsell in any of this, and he is dead to me for eternity. **** him and bring on the Cubs.
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Re: 2024 Managerial Candidates - CC to the Cubs 

Post#297 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Nov 7, 2023 5:14 pm

MVP2110 wrote:Per Curt Hogg, every coach except for Pat Murphy re-upped. Murphy did not and is currently a free agent. Which makes sense since he was Counsell's guy

Ideally you'd like a new manager to be able to pick his own staff, which makes me think it's going to be an internal hire. Maybe bring in Stotts are the new bench coach.

I don't think Murphy is interested in the job and will either end up in Chicago or retire. I wouldn't mind him though as the new skipper here.
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Post#298 » by Thunder Muscle » Tue Nov 7, 2023 5:32 pm

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MVP2110 wrote:Per Curt Hogg, every coach except for Pat Murphy re-upped. Murphy did not and is currently a free agent. Which makes sense since he was Counsell's guy

Ideally you'd like a new manager to be able to pick his own staff, which makes me think it's going to be an internal hire. Maybe bring in Stotts are the new bench coach.

I don't think Murphy is interested in the job and will either end up in Chicago or retire. I wouldn't mind him though as the new skipper here.


Agreed. I don’t think he will want it either.

If we go external, would prefer to hire own guys too. I think Cubs want CC to keep staff in place though too. But assume some guys loyal to Ross and walk away.
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Post#299 » by Thunder Muscle » Tue Nov 7, 2023 5:37 pm

I don’t hate giving Murphy the job now and maybe groom a younger candidate in the process. Murphy does have some health concerns and is 65, which maybe for him is a no-go too. Obviously stress level magnifies moving into that Manager role.
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Post#300 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Nov 7, 2023 5:38 pm

Thunder Muscle wrote:I don’t hate giving Murphy the job now and maybe groom a younger candidate in the process. Murphy does have some health concerns and is 65, which maybe for him is a no-go too. Obviously stress level magnifies moving into that Manager role.

I could see Murphy's post game press conferences being very short.
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